| IVOD_ID |
165423 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165423 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-22-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T12:03:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T12:16:57+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610facec946355d92691487e72a0011d4bca9f90834c22697b3aa2a74376f4625cb93f75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
范雲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:03:30 - 12:16:57 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央研究院院長廖俊智列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【11月12日及13日兩天一次會】） |
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有請院長謝謝召委請廖院長范委員好院長應該像是午安了吧午安好久不見了請問院長您的任期還有多長呢 |
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馒头快数完了还要数几天呢可以问一下吗我想用AI来算一下到明年6月21号到明年6月21号还有超过半年的时间吗那其实还是可以做很多事对不对很多事不能做很多事不能做好那无论如何就是说有件重要的事那我在您任内问了好几次今天继续接力了 |
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院長應該記得2024年的3月我當時就有質詢說我們的院士有選出的機制但是好像沒有退場的機制如果有些不適任的院士包含我跟貴院的吳瑞仁研究員我們也開記者會談到張翔2019年還有郭蔚都是我們的院士 |
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他並沒有保護香港的學生那站在就是壓迫者那一方然後當然在國外的院士在美國也是我們的院士也涉及到就是被中國滲透的相關的事情那就擔心說我們的院士如果都沒有這個機制的話那我想我們是以研究為基礎所以我有請中研院去做相關的研究那我看了一下你們今年七月給我的回覆 |
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你的結論是說好像不需要有處理機制可是你給我的幾個案例中因為我當時是請問你們去研究外在威脅的民主國家的院是怎麼處理那你們給我的案例中波蘭科學院它就是有一個處理的機制有會員章程那芬蘭科學與文學院也有會員大會應章程程序決議除名 |
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那都有這個機制可是結論很奇怪卻覺得中醫院好像不需要所以這跟我的解讀不太一樣所以我看到其實是有這個案例的那再回來就是就算沒有受到外在威脅的民主國家我之前質詢的時候就看到英國的國家懸殊院 |
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還有澳洲的科學院也都有相關的規定就是它其實是可以取消除名的那如果我們不用看到就是這些例子的話那我辦公室也找到個例子建橋大學的也許它這個不一定要翻譯成院士它至少是他們的榮譽的fellowhonorary fellows就很明確 |
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因為林鄭月娥偏離學術自由跟言論表達自由的原則那要給她答辯機會否則要收回她這個Honorary Fellow的這個名銜後來林鄭月娥主動退回了我想您一定知道林鄭月娥是誰那個院長知道 |
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他就是香港的特首那在他任內發生反送中的事情然後香港的大學跟香港中文的大學的學生會都被沒收了這些事情所以有這些例子表示其實 |
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一個榮譽的這種Fellow或者是院士事實上是很多的國家都有收回的機制那劍橋大學我們辦公室還找到在章程中第幾條都有如果有重大原因理事會可以依條例規定程序撤銷之前授予的這個Honorary Fellow |
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可是你們針對我遇上案的時候我也繼續追問這個問題我的辦公室跟我討論說中研院好像回覆有一點點自我矮化院士的職責就一直說他只是個榮譽學位無幾值 |
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可是我们都知道中研院的院士有职责选举院士名誉院士选举评委会决定国家学术方针而且我们刚所讲到几个例子其实就是就算是纯荣誉值它是一个最高的一个学术的桂冠所以我觉得如果我们对中研院在座很多都是除了您之外我们还有没有院士在现场 |
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三個副院長都是院士謝謝大家願意接這麼多重要的工作其他很多不是院士都是研究員或是副研究員我們對副研究員的規定都這麼清楚第13條 |
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违反情节重大足任不适任研究工作者不予续聘或提前终止聘约我们对研究员的相关的伦理规范跟处理机制都更明确那可是为什么对院士的这个部分就是说不愿意有处理机制所以请问院长 |
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如果真的有院士違反行為準則或明顯不適任的話那您覺得中研院有沒有必要剝奪其經過一定合理程序剝奪其院士資格呢這部分要跟委員再度澄清中研院有兩個部分一個是32個33個所跟中心 |
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它的主要負責人是院長所以各位代表的是所跟中心我們的主要職責是做人文及科學研究指導聯絡獎勵 學術研究跟培養人才另外一部分是由中研院的名氣我們有一個中央研究院院士 |
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286位院士其中大部分不是在本院任職中研院院长当任院士会议的主席所有的院士的规范是由于这个会议来决定不是由在场的各位所长来研究也不是由院长当主席一个人能够决定的 |
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我们过去也在院士会议提出这样的讨论但是讨论结果并没有通过是这个意思 |
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我有看到你们有就是作为秘书处跟主席有给他们方案可是这个方案我觉得跟你们的研究成果是有出入的因为我看到的你们送给院士讨论几个方案这个方案也是院士组成的小组提出来的方案也不是说我们秘书处大笔一挥就写的方案因为我们不能够这样做 |
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也是由院士会议选出一个小组提出的方案我秘书只是把它变成文字院长据说你们毕竟是秘书处秘书处送出去的合理的方案是一个还两个 |
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我們不是 我們只是指派人員所有東西都是在那個小組裡面這個決定的那小組裡面決定在這個院會當中又在當場又改了那個文字 |
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所以你们给院士的建议方案是要不要不是我们给的是院士那个院士自己做研究想出来的那叫什么院士行为准则研议小组自己提出来的那提出来里面有两个方案那两个方案可以跟大家讲是哪两个方案吗我们有这报告我们报告我现在这个因为它文字写得非常的精准 |
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所以然后在院会当中又经过很多的讨论又在修订那最后从两岸里面选的一个我的解读不知道有没有正确我看到的两个方案 |
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就是一个就是有一个处理机制一个就是没有处理机制一个就是宣称我们都要有一些伦理可是没有处理机制一个宣称我们要有哪些伦理可是有处理机制这样两个方案嘛对不对是你们最后让院士们讨论的这不是我们提出来这院士自己提出来的 |
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那院士提出来的秘书处你们做了这么多各国的研究秘书处没有参与秘书处不应该参与在场秘书处只是只是这个暗灵不是暗灵就是主管看冷气灯泡有没有量那您作为主席那个没有建议权吗因为院士很可能研究的是昆虫他也不了解我想主席的权限恐怕立法院比我还清楚啊 |
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主席是主持會議就算說我有意見也僅不過是一個人的意見那主席在處理這個議事的時候也必須要再保持中立性到最後兩方僵持不下的時候才能夠投下最後一票那在這個情況是沒有到這個階段那院長揍你這個 |
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这样的说法如果院士们我们中华民国的院士就是拒绝任何自我规范跟处理机制的话我们就拿他们没办法我这样讲有错吗 |
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不能这样子来说那应该怎么说我们既然选各国的院士都有处理机制就我们没有这不是我们这是这个团体自己的决定他自己未来的成败 |
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要自己负责不是外面的人可以负责那院长我不问其他院士我问您作为我们的院长您认为应不应该比照其他的这些国家我们的最高院士也应该要有一个不适任院士的退场机制yes or no院长您个人所有这些都不是很简单的yes or no即使譬如说美国科学院他们的做法也是 |
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我們美國科學院能夠處理問題僅止於美國科學院舉辦的活動譬如說舉辦院士會議期間有人對其他人霸凌或是有性騷擾事件 |
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这个他们处理但是假如这个院士在那个也是一种处理机制范围的大小而已对那他处理机制而且是要从院士会议当中选出代表再来处理那当然处理机制绝对要更严谨更慎重他们强调说他们强调说假如这个院士在不是在这个NAS |
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举办的活动当中的一些违反规定 |
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还有建议我不是说院士们的决定我说那个秘书长站在旁边意思是从旁观者的角度不是从院士的角度因为做研究这些秘书处不是院士他们没有权也没责任不了解这个我不是说 |
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726.736 |
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746.817 |
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大家可以来研究中华民国立法院应该要有什么行为规范我们做不到是我们自己要惭愧可是可以研究各国的国会应该怎么有自我规范自己的国会的行为就像你们可以研究我们国会里面怎么打架一样不代表我们会遵守可是我们要看到各国的规范 |
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747.678 |
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777.098 |
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那个是自发性的研究假如说院里面有同仁我请求院长能够来研究一下这么重要的一件事情这个应该是自发性研究都无妨因为也要尊重他们学术的我这讲的不是任何一个什么性别什么的我是针对中研院院士的相关规定因为我这个是研究这个是学术的自由这部分我想中研院自己有它的判断这个是涉及到它的相关规定 |
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777.818 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
800.661 |
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你們的意見應該可以帶到給中研院處理的中研院他們自發性的有人的話就是沒問題主席 你這樣影響我行使我的立委職權時間到了但是我要這麼要求讓院長自己回覆好不好院長拒絕的話院長自己負責我想我會等下任院長選出來之後我會跟他下任院長交接下去 |
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801.161 |
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805.884 |
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那你交接清單就有我會算一下中央醫院做出這個要幾個月好 OK謝謝主席 謝謝 |