| IVOD_ID |
165416 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165416 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T11:46:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T11:53:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610facefb462476545a15be4fb19a1d580694890f406a00a8f97c06f2ef179986d190cb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:46:47 - 11:53:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部、財政部、數位發展部、金融監督管理委員會、交通部就「普發現金一萬元之跨部會防詐及查緝作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【11月12日及13日二天一次會】） |
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我先請那個財政部請財政部這個是副署長嘛我想問一下因為昨天大家開始陸陸續續有收到這1萬塊那如果用匯款的話有兩種標註記的方式一種叫行政院發另外一個叫全民加一政府相挺請教一下這是為了防詐嗎還是 |
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這筆錢是行政院發的 |
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喔 那政府鄉庭是為什麼會有這四個字那是這個普發現金一萬的專案的名稱喔 這個現金專案叫政府鄉庭喔我以為叫做違憲欸我以為叫掏空國庫啊我以為叫做債留子孫啊不是啦 我覺得你們政府怎麼會這樣啊當時我們國民黨民眾黨在立法院說要普發現金一萬的時候行政院把我們講那麼難聽 |
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說這個錢違憲啊 掏空國庫債留子孫啊然後院長講說這個錢拿去買遙控飛機 冰箱就沒了讓那些領到錢的人覺得很不好意思對 我怎麼去貪那一萬塊就現在發錢的時候說 欸 這我挺你啊我很贊同你們現在的態度啊可是為什麼當時大家在討論這件事情的時候你不是說 對 我們大家來看看怎麼挺一起來挺人民 拚經濟 |
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所以很多民眾啊本來說到一萬塊很開心啊很開心然後看到那個政府相挺就開始怎麼有這四個字就開始覺得很奇怪了所以希望我們的政府啦如果覺得這個事情是挺的話一開始就不要為反對而反對啦謝謝 謝謝這個財安部請問 那我現在講抒發部是市長啊 |
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市長那個最近速發部說有統計一個名人最容易受到詐騙的第一名是誰市長市長我想要問市長啊你們今天部長都沒有來了然後問個市長然後市長又再找別人回答 |
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這個我們整體的詐騙業務的話是在我們部裡面分公司在素產組這邊所以我請素產組這邊可以幫忙做一個回答不用啦不用啦因為我們在這邊時間非常有限第一名叫吳淡如啦那為什麼我會知道呢其實素發部平常在發這些新聞有時候我們沒看到但吳淡如我為什麼會知道因為吳淡如出來罵素發部啊 |
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他說 訴發部不要只會在那邊統計到底哪一些名人最容易被詐騙好不好這是吳淡如講的 不是我講的他說你們也訴 這是他講 引述原話訴發部就是一個養肥貓的單位政務官沒有解決問題的能力只會在這邊統計哪些名人 你是不會解決喔我不知道訴發部的人聽到被這樣批評有什麼感想 |
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跟委員報告這個部分的話當然我們現在的機制是民眾可以來這個通報然後我們自己也會有這個自動的一個機制去查這一些的這個ES廣告啊這一些那如果說我們發現說這樣子的一個廣告可能是有這個詐騙的一個風險的話我們會跟這些名人直接去跟他們去對你們都是有機制啦但是為什麼人家就人家會覺得你們是一個養肥貓單位 |
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你絕對是有做事啊你不可能四味素餐啊 領高興什麼事都不做嘛但是現在是做得夠不夠 好不好的問題嘛那現在你統計一個名人最容易被詐騙理論上來講我相信你是想要提醒大家說哎呦 吳淡如他很容易被冒名喔大家只要看到吳淡如要小心喔 對不對 |
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利益也是良善啊可是為什麼被提醒的那個主角他會這麼生氣因為他會覺得自己生病不要叫別人吃藥嘛你抒發部應該要先把這個詐騙的問題解決啊你們現在跟那些社群網站的聯繫到底暢不暢通啊跟FB有聯繫嗎這邊跟委員報告我們目前跟這些平台我們都保持密切對那如果很密切的話為什麼還會這個狀況而且除了FB 翠友嗎 |
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翠友嗎對 因為他一樣都是那個Meta旗下Meta旗下所以你會針對他旗下各個平台平常都會一直提醒他我在翠上面也看到非常多的詐騙昨天網路上有一個我看到了有一個什麼女老師說她PO一個照片在教室裡面拍的她說她是基隆某個國小的女老師47歲單身然後在留言那邊要附上她的ID然後結果網友抓包你說你在基隆的學校可是課桌椅是 |
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另外一個國小就很擺明就是詐騙像這麼明顯的按讚一堆留言一堆的我不知道像這種平常到底有沒有去抓這種看你就知道他的模式嘛你加了他的ID他就叫你投資然後你接下來了詐騙嘛這麼猖獗所以大家真的期待速發部多做一點事啦可以嗎這邊是跟委員報告就是說我們跟Meta這一邊就是說因為我們都會做定期的這些掃描機制那如果我們有發現一些好沒關係因為今天速發部 |
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長官沒有來我不為難你們啦好不好我只是希望你那個講一下我相信吳淡如講的肥貓不是兩位啦至少你們願意來國會接受監督你們不是但是那些不願意來的你可以問他們吳淡如是不是在講他們啦好謝謝 |