| IVOD_ID |
165397 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165397 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T11:42:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T11:51:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610facef6ec8ad8c3feba018ff38efa2589ba080f406a00a8f97c06b3e2e9b7fa15091f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:42:05 - 11:51:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長及行政院主計總處就「癌症新藥暫時性支付及罕見疾病藥物專款預算運用成效及政策檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
(討論事項)
審查
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十五、委員陳亭妃等17人擬具「癌症防治法第十六條條文修正草案」案。
十六、委員黃秀芳等21人擬具「癌症防治法第十六條條文修正草案」案。
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【專題報告及討論事項綜合詢答；討論事項僅詢答】） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請這個衛福部的市部長相關的長官要幫忙可以喔可以去幫忙了好 部長你當初當市長的時候我就看好你我記得我跟你講過一句話我說你要給我做保定喔 |
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你要跟我客氣 不信比我嚴重不過最近表現就突切突切這個什麼突然來一個什麼鼓勵加利息加房租超過兩萬的就要什麼什麼等等好啦 我先回來第一題啦今天就談到癌症了還有一個罕見疾病了我的看法是這樣子的沒有人希望得到癌症但是費用這麼高 |
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健保能夠cover盡量cover罕見疾病也是這樣我們民意代表出來的第一線的看到那個得到癌症的真的傾家蕩產都有啦所以這一部分我覺得請問你現在癌症的這個支出啊費用包括藥物包括其他治療的佔我們的健保比例都高 |
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跟委員報告大概是這樣我們以前一年因為今年還沒統計完我們用去年的話一年的癌症接受治療的大概90萬支出大概1400多億 |
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幾% 差不多六分之一 我們健保差不多16%左右六分之一啦 六分之一就16 16.6667我那個第一個 我的訴求就是盡量 可以盡量救啦特別一些這個很辛苦的人 第二點 |
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我來不是像主計總署的長官說整個財政距離而已啦我來帶紅包給你啦你現在說一千億啊找不到錢對不對我替你找錢讓你睡得著你是睡不著還是睡不著一樣意思還是睡不好 睡不好睡不好喔 但那去去還有睡的不錯還有睡的如果是你睡不著我現在來這裡今天來這裡特別跟你講 |
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你出一招 進帳四千多億什麼意思 那個一千萬上限補充保費啊拿掉 無上限有錢人 大家都了解有錢人賺這麼多當然多幫忙一點啊 |
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你知道現金鼓勵最多的人可以領到多少你知道嗎現金鼓勵 你不知道喔現金鼓勵乘以2.11%就是我們的補充包圍對不對小資本額為什麼大家反彈這麼大那些退休的存款族五張十張 也被你課當然就XXX對不對但是那個大老闆你知道高到多少現金鼓勵喔 |
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我就知道有一兩位喔 超過一百億一年喔 一年喔 一年喔 一年喔 一年喔One year only有人超過一百億 超過十億的一槓子為什麼我們只有扣到一千萬呢 |
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你把一千萬的屋頂拿掉你原來還在講說怎麼變五千萬我說是幹什麼加一個你來差不多怎麼變五千萬變五億或者變十億上限到這裡你敢不敢這得罪有權人我敢得罪有權人你敢不敢剛剛我聽到委員這樣講我眼睛都亮起來 |
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那我就告訴你 我跟你讓眼睛更亮晚上叫我睡了還打呼 我跟你說來 我跟你講去年2024年現金股利總發放多少你知道嗎你不知道啊2.3兆啊2.3兆乘以2.11%是多少4850億 |
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我今天來這裡就帶這個紅包給你你敢不敢提這個東西你前面講的那個我們現在這個主席啊 王委員太客氣了啦還有什麼總資產都漏漏洞一堆 不用一行就好啊改得很簡單的 只要改一條 一千萬拿掉就好啊 所有的都扣2.1% |
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小資族不會罵你有錢人心裡想罵你也不敢罵他領100億多交個2.11%就多交個2億算什麼對不對 必要的時候你給他匯台灣兩多給他一個獎牌 |
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對不對 他可能不敢拿 說不定了不過這個報紙都有寫 你刷一下就知道你注意看啊 那些大老闆持股多少公開資料 刷一刷就知道我不能點名了 媒體都有點名了我這個資料是工商時報的資料今年5月份的資料現金股率現金股率Cash Dividend2.3兆乘以2.11% 4850億 |
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今天我就帶這個禮物給你謝謝委員今天帶這麼大的紅包你敢不敢嘛 你敢不敢做喔這個晚上一定很好睡啦你敢不敢啊 問你啊還是要跟我這次學會了要先跟跨部會協調一下 |
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你不要講說明年還補多少什麼100億200億300億把有錢人的毛他也不敢挨你小資族去挨我跟你講這些有錢人你看 |
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我一看啊 媒體順便一翻哪一家什麼科技公司23億就是去年的這個鼓勵現金鼓勵喔現金喔Cash Dividend喔還有17億還有30幾億的鋼紙啦 |
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因為補充保費的時候那時候國民黨還是執政黨參與補充保費的時候我在裡面很清楚我記得到一千萬我就低估了我是為什麼這麼低我那時候就主張要五千萬那時候我就主張五千萬你知道嗎因為現在發現五千萬不夠那時候因為最高最高的現金孤立那時候33億現在呢超過100億的我已經看到兩個人了 |
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對不對 從這裡下手好不好我們希望讓這個越有能力的人對啊 他也覺得很光榮啊 有錢啊一年而已耶他一年的現金鼓勵是一百億耶天啊 我想說我們不知道可能一輩子不要說一百億 幾億 |
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我们再细算一下看看这些是到现金鼓励到哪一些到底到哪边去的你没有100亿你要上限最少10亿啦你现在1000万把它加2个0啦我们下次提出修法的时候我一定支持啦第三个我要讲的你不要把什么鼓励利息帮助什么把它加总这个你等于抢估税期的生意喔我们现在是救援课税 |
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救援課費所以你能一課就到你要加總那等於第二國稅局喔你要一缸子的人去處理你股率多少啦 利息多少啦我們主席賺很多錢他的房租賺多少啦 他房子比較多比如這樣講 隨便講齁對不對 那個是財政部的事情喔財政部他不一定地盤 你要請他的地盤不會理你喔所以只有一條路 就我剛剛講的一千萬的上限拿掉 |
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對不對 你稍微科技一點把它降到10億這個故事就不一樣了我告訴你 你是好歹最少2000億金賬這樣可以嗎謝謝委員我們會去再跟相關單位確認一下這個金額到底其他單位都不會有人講話啦只有大老闆他心裡面說不定會怎麼樣但是他不敢講出來啦因為講出來他就說他就知道錢太多我們所有的考慮都是說讓大家付費公平啦 |
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這個很公平啦 這個有錢人多交一點你鼓勵拿個十億好了十億 然後你交個兩千萬 算什麼我們朝這個方向來對不對 這個東西很簡單的事所以我除了剛才那個長官講說我財政紀律之外我要來帶紅包給你 好 謝謝好 謝謝賴委員 謝謝賴志寶聖誕委員 |
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加持跟發言謝謝謝謝部長的答詢 |