| IVOD_ID |
165365 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165365 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T10:19:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T10:32:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610face59c73c27f5effb2a8ff38efa2589ba08999b3dda738276804cf22a73b69dd6195ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱鎮軍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:07 - 10:32:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長及行政院主計總處就「癌症新藥暫時性支付及罕見疾病藥物專款預算運用成效及政策檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
(討論事項)
審查
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【專題報告及討論事項綜合詢答；討論事項僅詢答】） |
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主席好我還是請一下我們的安心署長上來一下安心署長請江署長 |
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好 署長好 這個每次食安出問題我們食藥署長都告訴大家這個劑量吃了不會死 然後不會中毒我幫你回顧一下 就從你上任開始不管是食安疑慮還是已經發生的食安問題你怎麼跟大家說的第一次取消日本福島食品這個進口限制我們江署長說在日本吃得很開心 |
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那第二次呢 驗出這個萊劑的株 |
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我們江署長就說每天吃也健康無虞從沒有見過人吃萊克多巴胺中毒因為知識缺乏才會擔心那第三次是黑心大腸為了破案食藥署6月已經接到通報卻拖到10個月才下架讓民眾多吃了4個月的黑心大腸那現在芬普尼雞蛋署長你又說60公斤這個重成人 |
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一天要吃100顆雞蛋慢性風險是一天7至8顆持續吃一輩子才會有問題如果擔心可以這幾天先不吃蛋署長我想請問你啊人民吃下肚的東西要靠這個食藥署把關但是你每一次呢一而再再而三的挑戰人民的信任 |
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我再提醒你一次 沒有人想要吃到有毒的東西實際上就是0跟1的關係 沒有其他的關係身為署長 如果你都有容許模糊 有灰色地帶那整個體系就會爛掉 你知道嗎那現在我們芬普尼的雞蛋問題2017年你自己有分析過 2017年的時候你接受天下雜誌的訪問 當時你是台大的醫師 |
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毒理學副教授你自己說過超過每顆每日容許值不會急性中毒但健康風險提高設施不允許發生的那8年前是不容許發生的為什麼到了2025年你卻用了要吃100顆才中毒來合理這個違法殘留 |
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報告委員這邊跟您整體一併的說明先從蛋的部分來做說明分普尼雞蛋的時候當初了解的情況下其實是整個還沒有背景的調查 |
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不知道狀況怎麼樣調查之後發現整個的狀況是長期的 暴露了所以在這種情形之下是全面性的跟現在這個我們經過七年來107年一路以來持續努力4282次裡面 業裡面有一次前面現在是做所謂的 |
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隨機抽樣出來的結果要告訴我們所有的機場應該是隨機抽樣出來的結果為我們施政的依據在這樣的前提之下我們認為現在的可能的我們精準的知道在這一個場裡面所以在這個場裡面我們必須要做風險評估為基礎之下這個科學證據之下 |
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你昨天公布的這個檢驗數據啊雞蛋檢出這個芬普尼代謝物是0.03ppm那羽毛更高是這個0.27ppm那代謝物是0.13那目前你跟農業部研判的問題是什麼 |
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是環境還是殺蟲劑我其實難以跟幫忙就是說農業部但是以我的專業來去判斷這個應該是噴灑在雞隻的身上羽毛經過皮膚或者著食之後吸收到體內產蛋的時候就出現我們規定的是0.01ppm以下你怎麼去研判的呢 |
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這就是我的專業所在所以有時候這個部分其實要去了解的是因為飼料裡面要進來很困難環境用藥它其實是凝膠劑因為它關在鎖起來飼料你怎麼確定它很困難因為其實這件事情之後其實農業部有些部分他們我們跨部會裡面他其實有驗過那你有去抽查其他的地方嗎 |
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這個現在就是因為抽查在機場的部分會是在2017年的時候就已經查過全國為什麼到你這邊就不行了 |
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那時候的查過前果是歷年來我們今年度就已經查了460件不是今年都沒有記住我是說你發生之後為什麼不查重點是整個的全體的現在隨機查出來的結果告訴我們的證據是你為什麼要隨機你為什麼不要全面清查我現在講這件事情你為什麼你要隨機呢 |
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這件事情特別跟委員做說明是不敢查還是怎麼樣還是怕查出來沒辦法應付現在查的時候呢 必須要在全面性的機場的在前端就要查了所以我們現在在跟農業部這邊能夠協調怎麼樣前端的要去查我們後端的是持續今年度400多批今年這個月呢 持續還是有我們的計畫向下還是有批數要來增加你試料驗幾件 |
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我們今年呢 只驗了兩件嘛 對不對我們今年呢 總共驗了461件那這個月呢 彰化其實驗了44件那除了這以外 你現在就是因為我說你飼料驗不出來才要頭痛啊那是因為目前看起來是噴在身上 |
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飼料上面有這件事情它怎麼會噴到牠身上為什麼要噴到牠身上剛才林委員其實非常專業的有說明了因為雞隻是龍雞 住得很小所以牠連轉身都很難去把自己的身上的雞屍感染清乾淨所以有些可能這個雞農用年紀我不知道特別是幾歲所以林委員剛才提示得非常精準的說這個因為牠都癢 |
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因為養就會影響下蛋所以就影響產量所以在這種情形之下呢他們就想辦法能夠解決問題可是解決問題是用錯的方法其實是有核准的相關的用藥的這個都是農業部在管理底下的所以是農業部在負責嘛 對不對我當然知道不是完全不是食藥署的這個責任但是農業部的問題確實也大只是說你2017年發生這個問題的時候你們把全國雞蛋這個蛋機廠都掃了一遍為什麼現在不做 |
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蛋機場少 蛋機場只要進入廠裡面都是農業部在管所以現在我們是要主決在食安五環2.0在主環在最前面那一段你現在講說百分之百雞茶它不是科學就對了這件事情容我說一下這個抽查是要精準的跟經過規劃的如果每一顆蛋都抽查完之後呢那顆蛋就不能吃了 |
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那我們要用批次來抽查跟能夠地點來抽查這個部分我們一定會繼續在按照規劃裡面持續做不會讓這個努力的要去做的那你現在有確認你現在有確認這些雞這些污染的雞蛋它確實是噴了農藥才感染的 |
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是誰噴的 為什麼噴有抓到源頭嗎 有沒有源頭這個是檢調 有沒有源頭我在這邊一定讓我講一下我要非常非常感謝彰化縣衛生局的局長葉彥博業局長非常機警的也感謝食安辦我們在10月5號通報之後立刻啟動了檢調進去機場裡面 |
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也在很專業的選擇哪邊的雞比較可能有問題去那邊的雞因為四萬顆雞五萬隻雞四萬顆蛋五萬隻雞你要抽中一定是一眼望過去哪邊是高風險的在這麼專業而且檢調協助農業方衛生方去檢雞毛拔出來雞蛋拿出來食品環境全部都我還是問你你不要講那麼多那到底查到源頭了沒有 |
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查到了沒有嘛雖然說是檢調不公開但是已經公開說就是大家想像的那樣應該是推論是噴在雞的身上對 誰噴的嘛 |
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一定要問機場的人他們目前那個後面的筆錄我就沒辦法問了所以你們現在已經確定是這樣就對了我沒辦法確定啦但是後面筆錄的部分應該是檢察官他們會問問完之後最後起所以你現在答的你現在講的是就是說他就是在現場人家噴的你現在說法是這樣嘛對不對那如果不是呢芬普尼呢會有 |
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這一次如果驗出來不是呢因為這個 因為又沒抓到咧報告 報告委員因為這部分在檢調在調查其實他們很努力證據明確 方向正確我相信檢調跟農政跟衛生因為我們已經相信你很多次了嘛對不對 可是一直都出狀況不是嗎 |
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573.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
這個只說明了那個芬芙尼蛋那其他的我可以一併的說明一下那對於管理的部分我們持續會以最高標準的來管理那對於食品安全我們會用風險評估為基礎不是 那個署長我這樣講啦如果今天查出來不是的話你要不要負責我想噴雞蛋你要不要嘛 你要不要負責我說噴雞蛋噴在雞身上是農政單位 |
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575.293 |
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600.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
我這邊後市場端我們想盡辦法該抽的4282次我們從這麼多年來所有農衛政單位的同仁們齊心合力去做了這麼多把關去確定有異常就告訴全國的國人好啦我希望你們這邊繼續追蹤下去啦一定的好那你浪費我時間太多了那我最後問一個簡單的啦主席不好意思部長 |
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631.63 |
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部長關於我們提的這個癌症防治法的修正草案我看你們整體都不是很支持是吧應該是這樣講我們很支持的就是加速讓這個癌症的新藥可以讓病人用到為了讓他加速可以用到我們就還沒有修法我們就已經先在健保基金裡面現有的健保基金裡面因為我們修正的第五條是一個政策宣示也可以說是一個行政機關的自我期許 |
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632.35 |
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651.347 |
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那但是法律條文才會有約束力啦你之前所以我們才會提出那第16條我們希望建立的是癌症心要多元的支持基金核心很簡單就是要有穩定的裁員明確的用途但你們的意思是說現在有癌症心要暫時性的支付專款就夠了 |
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679.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
那問題是這筆錢是公務預算的挹注沒有明確的法源沒有穩定的機制也就是說今天可以編明年又可以不要了所以這種不定期的挹注根本是支撐不起來的所以我希望你們趕快把這個東西定案因為我們常常看到我們賴總統很多政策喊得也很漂亮喊一喊然後又沒有了 對不對所以我也不希望說我們這個變成一個口號能夠有實際的作為可以嗎 |
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698.551 |
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會 我們會持續的爭取預算來維持一直不斷的在擴充這些癌症新藥的納入因為剛剛也報告過因為要成立一個新的基金他需要有去籌措這個裁員那我們現在目前你大概多久會弄啊你的期程有沒有 至於有時間表嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
這個難度很高啦要一線有財源以外喔等於就是你要新增一個什麼東西這個真的是難度很高有沒有心要做的問題而已啦對不對我們都有心在努力才會先去爭取用公務預算因為公務預算不穩定啦剛剛我就講啦 |
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748.544 |
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對不對 你那個東西不確定性那你如果實施之後今年有明年又沒有那怎麼辦不會啦 因為總統總統說用多少我們就會再補多少所以那你就趕快把法條列出來嘛那既然總統都背書了你現在來講我們是有一個法源就是用這個全民健康保險基金收支保管及運用反正我不管你用什麼辦法嘛反正就是這個基金你趕快你另外提撥一個專用的專款專用的這筆才對啊 |
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749.673 |
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773.326 |
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目前這個也是專款專用不會留到其他的健保的其他用途專門就在用癌症新藥目前就是專款專用可是你那個是 等於是另外一個我認為那個東西還不太穩定啦我們大家的看法是這樣不然我們大家不會提出來啦所以部長你趕快 盡快啦 好不好我們繼續努力 繼續努力好 謝謝委員好 謝謝邱委員 謝謝部長 |
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779.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
779.88 |
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呵呵 |