| IVOD_ID |
165349 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165349 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T09:36:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T09:45:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610face512561b1045114bc5cb08f7d303ca8f4bff109ec81674948744b430f128716a75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃仁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:36:30 - 09:45:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「國軍編現比提升之具體方案及因應作法」，並備質詢。（11月12日及13日二天一次會）） |
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有請部長 謝謝主席來 部長請是 黃委員部長早 |
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我們針對這個國軍邊線比偏低以嚴重影響國軍的戰力那部長上次在本席在上週二總質詢的時候就針對國軍官兵缺額的問題提出的一個質詢當時因為時間有限所以無法能夠詳細的來詢問那當今天再一次的來詢問 |
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本席看了今天的報告對比你上週的回答發現你在總執行的時候回答刻意的有一些錯誤的一些引導當時本席問你在主戰部隊的邊線比你就說無法無法提供主戰部隊的邊線比當時本席問你 |
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在這個過程裡面只提供全經最新的資料是92.2%剛剛你也在跟羅委員也講了79.2%但是比去年3月的96.9%的提升為2.3%沒有去年今年 抱歉抱歉 |
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提升到2.3%但是這表示提升是政策成效那結果今天的報告顯示這2.3%是義務役的數字根本不是政策成效的與政策成效無關所以你們看一下這個數字是不是有些錯誤的引導那再者就是部長 |
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不要用這個數字避重就輕這個很多事情是不可取這顯示對於解決國軍面臨的嚴重的問題不要一直想說要怎麼解決但是問題是怎麼樣來解決不要矇混過關部長上次回答你說79.9% |
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可是79.2可是今年的3月76.9%的提升2.3跟數據完全是相反的部長你再一次的回答這一次是怎麼一回事就沒有顛倒就3月是76.6 |
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76.9那現在是79.2這提升的2.3%根本就是151的數字嘛151的數字加起來就是你們所謂的跟委員報告151從113年就開始就有151了是啊 |
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所以151的加入他在113年開始就已經是列為邊線比的一部分了所以3月的統計的邊線比就有含151提升到2.3但是你們全新最新的資料是79.2%啊對 所以3月份統計的76.9也有含151的 |
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有含EWE嗎 有啊有嗎 含4600可是數據 因為EWE是從資料裡面沒有含EWE的啊你這個是分開來算的你本來這個2.3%的EWE的數字跟你全經的數字裡面不是在這裡面啊沒有 整體的邊線比就有含從3月論的時候 |
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263.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
291.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
到現在來論的整體的編寫名在3月都有含義務役的人數到現在也有含義務役的人數你回答一下好不好委員好 跟委員報告就是說我們統計今年是76.9是含義務役的4956元那今年到現在義務役是4600元那我們今年整體志願役增加人數到10月31號是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
293.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
319.057 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
2325元這是實際增加志願役人數就是我們之前採取人性化的管理流營等等所有的措施之後今年從1月1號到現在志願役人力成長了2325到年底還有1000餘元可以進來我們省省樂觀的評估那你認為是有提升的嗎有提升確實有提升確實那你再詳細的數字再給我好不好是我們會後再跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
319.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
342.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
那另外就是本信引用號角響起這個驚叫片的經典台語你們是欺騙敵人還是欺騙長官還是欺騙自己那這邊引用美國入侵條例220-1單位狀態報告和部隊登記的一個指標美軍提供的人員現有利參考值 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
345.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
369.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
在西腕90%到100%但是現在我們是在西山60%到79%僅能執行部分的任務那在這個人員的比例上作戰最低標準中美軍更直接指出在作戰計畫中如果部隊人員限力限有率低於85% |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
371.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
388.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
那需要延後部署或由其他單位支援但如果低於80%即時裝備期前也不視為即備作戰部署的資格那所以若依照美軍的標準國軍主戰部隊的邊線比 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
392.933 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
411.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
屬於C3等級只能執行部分的任務如果是戰士根本連部署上戰場的資格都沒有啊這個顯示缺兵的問題不只是招募量不足而是已經觸及到作戰能力的層級的問題所以部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
413.251 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
429.751 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
今天的報告內容顯示全軍編制增加所以編線比呈現下降那國軍實際人員或成長的狀態但是一對照美軍作戰最低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
430.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
445.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
標準是以人員比例來看就知道這又是一個模糊焦點的論述請國軍回答我這個問題來把這一些細表給本席請國軍來訂出一個本席 請問部長國軍的缺額的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
453.809 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
476.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
是不是現在馬上採取正確的一個政策的手段那短時間內當然不可能解決但政府告訴我們無時無刻受到武力的威脅所以現在在緊急狀況那是不是 那你有沒有具體的解決的方案部長你來回答一下 剩下15秒 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
478.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
505.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
剛剛我已經有回答羅委員同樣的問題那我是不是請這個座議事來再補充一下委員好我是座議事市長剛剛委員指導點出來是美軍的戰備等級標準確實非常正確它裡面包含人裝訓有四個評鑑的這個等級那剛剛同我們部長已經有做過的回應就是說我們這個等級是在特定任務特定時間也就是說當作美軍在做作戰部署任務派遣前的鑑定的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
505.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
530.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
那我們如果比照這個樣 我們在戰時同時也有考量就是剛剛部長報的 我們會採取在有敵情徵後明確之後會進行動員 鞭持 並進行臨戰訓練因此部隊的邊線筆會達到滿邊是可以有效去應處我們的防衛作戰任務的邊線筆缺兵的問題趕快解決這是一個解決之道 好不好我會努力來提高我們的邊線筆謝謝 謝謝黃榮委員 各位請回 |