| IVOD_ID |
165327 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165327 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-12T13:17:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-12T13:25:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a35f0de19abcdbe34a570029e5fa6fcdb62a46119727b9b985b487800f2765308b382dd59e615ff75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:17:14 - 13:25:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席 各位委員有請部長來 請部長部長好 辛苦了這個原住民的就業這個我們一直希望能夠有更好但是以目前的狀況並沒有更好雖然我們的 |
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前任的總統蔡總統他的原住民族就業政策要保障上望新的工作機會但是很遺憾的我們的原住民保障的就業的條文 |
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本來在一開始的時候就業服務法46條所授權訂定的外國人從事就業服務法第46條第一項第8款至第11款工作資格及審查標準這是民國93年1月13號訂定發布的這裡面特別規定每禁用言住民一人得申請引進外國人兩人 |
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這樣的一個條文在109年7月31號被刪除了所以這個保障條款就變沒有了 |
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然後在111年4月29號就全文修正整個65條全文修正當然也沒有回復到我們的剛才講的被刪除的這個條文在這樣一個情況之下你看為了外勞現在為了外籍外勞不斷的修正這個 |
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這個審查標準工作資格及審查標準已經修了23次我們不反對啦我們確實也需要但是原住民為什麼要被犧牲呢所以這個部分尤其是我們原住民族的就業狀況 |
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我們主要是最高的最多的人數最多的比例最高的營建工程業百分之十八點五九這個比比例很高當然你勞動部一定很清楚現在進來的這些外勞營建工程非常最多然後我們 |
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我們就業的比例從事的行業製造業14.03%這是第二高而製造業進來的也越來越多所以這個23次的資格及審查標準的修正影響的都是原住民的勞工而且是我們就業的比例 |
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低高跟第二高的都受到很嚴重的影響接下來就是住宿及餐飲業這是我們的第三這是我們就業的第三現在也在受影響剛才羅廷偉委員講的這個跟教學跟這個就業合作的那個部分也影響到我們 |
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所以這個部分要請部長要能夠重視怎麼樣去解決把我們的條款能不能再列回來跟委員說其實現在在救福法裡面第24條其實是有把原住民納入成我們的特定對象裡面的部長 |
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就業服務法24條現在已經形同稀釋因為根據24條根據24條才會有46條授權訂定的一個保障條款現在沒有了這個保障條款的 沒了所以在這樣一個情形之下我剛剛說了 |
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現在外勞進來的營建工程業最多正好是我們就業比例最高的第二 製造業 |
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外勞進來的很多我們都不反對外勞進來但是怎麼樣不要影響到我們的就業我們現在在原民會提供的這個失業率的數字上面其實的確沒有看到原住民族的失業率特別高他大概是3%左右 |
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還是比一般的其實跟一般跟權力還是差不多的還是比一般的高大概就是在3%左右其實跟其他是差不多的這個部長不能因為這個數字不能因為這個數字就認為說沒有影響到事實上是有影響到在審查已經通過了立法院已經通過了在外國人外國人專業的那個那個辦法 |
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外國專業人才禁用的那個辦法又擴大連副協士連副協士都算是一個專業人才外國專業人才副協士以前這個外國專業人才這個辦法副協士沒有列進去這是特別列進去我問教育部 問國發會他說因為勞動部支持 |
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所以這個部分的都是影響到影響到這個部分當然我們臺灣的就業的問題很多眼沒有錯但是不要犧牲原住民原來的我們不會再就位去犧牲原住民就絕對不會在老就是有啊我才會如果沒有的話就是我們的勞工跟我反映了 |
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老公原住民的老公跟我反映了我才會去仔細的去看這些條文我才知道啊所以這個部分的部長如果你一開始現在我經過這樣的質詢之後這麼詳細的說明之後你都還認為沒有的話這樣是不好的 |
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跟委員說我不是認為沒有你可以說你回去再去考量我們可以跟原民會再來了解他這個數字統計數字背後是不是有什麼地方應該要多做考慮然後在這個考慮下我們既有的機制跟既有的這個法條包括特定對象的部分我們怎麼來去協助我們很願意來去檢視這些事情對但我們會要去跟原民會一起來討論 |
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不過那個部長現在不是延民會議是你們主動把這個我問過延民會當初你們是不是有同意把這個這個授權就業服務法46條所授權訂定的這個資格及審查標準他們說當初他們也反對啊但是就當然不是你部長任內啦就這樣啊所以這個部分 |
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我都不反對外勞進來我們是確實是需要但是不要把原住民的保障條款給刪除回去好好的去評估我們再思考一下能夠再把它回復我只有沒有沒有別的要求只是要求把它回復而已好不好謝謝謝謝好謝謝接下來請 |