| IVOD_ID |
165298 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165298 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-12T10:46:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-12T10:56:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a35f0de19abcdbe3b762d1245f158e23b3e5644d9c426883cc7208a858208f5c7c5064231c774fdb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:46:27 - 10:56:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【11月12日及13日二天一次會】） |
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好謝謝主席本席有請邱主委邱主委 |
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徐委好主委好主委本席刚提早到听到您有回答前面的委员说您这个也很乐见我们的海基会董事长吴董事长去大陆交流那本席很好奇你身为陆委会主委你怎么不率先破冰之旅和平之旅你就率先去大陆交流 |
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跟委員報告如果是對等尊嚴兩岸有需要人民支持我們當然這是我們職責所在不過截至目前為止中國大陸還是要求我們必須答應他的政治前提那這個前提前提是我們要接受他一個中國原則的九二共識 |
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在这个框架里面没有中华民国存在的空间我们无法答应这种消灭中华民国并吞台湾的政治前提所以你可以过去跟他们反映啊所以你有提过要过去吗没有嘛你没有提出过在各式各样的交流活动他都必须把政治前提放在前头所以你就去好好跟他谈嘛 |
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對不對軟硬的話都可以講啊甚至您可以帶沈伯陽委員過去澄清一些誤會也不錯啊對不對所以我們的陸委會不跟大陸做任何的互動交流這是很奇怪的一件事從我們第一會期這一屆第一會期我們就一直講所以你看大家都覺得陸委會可以裁撤啦 |
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那你们有讲你现在所做的都是一些台商的事所以本席也觉得那我们陆委会就变成什么台商协助会就好了根本不需要有一个跟各部会同等的位阶的陆委会因为你根本都没有去交流接着这个是刚刚本席听到你回复但我们很希望你可以去你代表我们中华民国台湾我们的尊严 |
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可以然後去你表達我們嚴正的立場我們都支持你我也認同你啊對等尊嚴但是你都三不政策對不對不接觸不交流完全不互動我們還是要推動這個健康有序的交流讓兩岸能夠和平穩定健康有序的交流請主委你做起 |
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是我們一直在推動你帶頭來做嘛好不好我們希望這樣不然其實陸委會我們這一會其實又要審預算了那陸委會我們不知道你所做的事你密切注意我看你的那個報告裡面 |
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你做的事情都是paperwork或者是你就是在這邊靜靜的沒有靜靜的我們做了大量的努力所以可能陸委會也許可以考慮轉型不用成為部會它就是一個台商協助會或是什麼我們也有需要協助我們台商 |
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但是如果您愿意跨出这个两岸破冰两岸和平之旅那我们全力支持你是谢谢委员那再来就是我们 |
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看到有一个联合报的最新民调八成八的民众认为两岸沟通管道不可中断这当然也是呼应刚刚前面我所请教您的那民进党执政至今呢我们看到两岸的很多的沟通显然无效我们现在具体的来看 |
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過去簽的26項協議慘不忍睹 非常的慘不忍睹首先在司法互助的方面我們看到雪崩式下跌我方要求遣返2076人結果陸方只送回512人我們的政府功能不髒 |
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那再来ECFA的经贸急速降温这个整个双双崩跌那再来观光交流也是大幅下滑 |
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一間一間關起來現在都幾乎關掉了然後老街也都帶動不了整個的觀光這個都跟陸委會的這個業務影響很大所以這一個部分主委這個數據也在在顯示您真的需要率先再去開啟兩岸的交流可以嗎 |
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跟委員報告 兩岸目前交流的障礙都不是我們造成的都是別人 專門檢討別人剛剛委員所說的兩岸目前剩下的協議有26項 我也很專業但是我們陸委會我們的同仁幾乎定期在每一項協議都在盤點 都在精進我們跟對岸整個就是冰凍 |
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沒有那是對岸所造成的這個片面的這個脅迫我想大家都很清楚啦那再來就還有一點時間本席一定要特別針對我們不管陸委會再怎麼不作為我們現在面臨的我們的民眾人流的安全還有我們產業的這個所受到的威脅這兩塊本席也要特別在今天特別提出來 |
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我们人生两岸交流啊人生安全官方不交流那我们民间倒是交流的等于我们的民众过去是蛮频繁的不管是这个有一些我们企业派驻的人员或是我们这个观光的我想您也很清楚所以人生安全是我们最重要也是我们最重视的那我想请教您啊 |
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對於我們人流安全風險上升陸委會對國人旅遊或是企業派駐人員的法律與保險協助有沒有強化到足以應付他們複合式的一些脅迫的程度 |
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是委員提到這個很重要我們也在關注請你簡答我時間不多我們從去年到現在有233件這一種人身安全的風險那我們也持續透過既有的管道跟對岸去反應必須要落實踐行他們的司法人權我這邊很好你講到重點現在這邊打 |
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打住喔你的管道就是發傳真不是不是開記者會不是我們現在陸委會呢人道救援這個我們看到喔就是只留於發傳真跟開記者會沒有 我們還是協調各部會在進行跟中國大陸的共同打擊犯罪與司法互助合作的機制下在跟他們講欸 有共打 有共打你們的這個在互動上你們的共打機制好像沒有很好欸 |
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因為本席聽到很多我們國人遭遇一些 |
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是一種您所說的一些類似的處境我聽到的是他們拜託陸委會、海基會不要介入不要開記者會好像會越幫越忙這個行為就表示對陸委會最直接的投下反對票跟委員報告所以陸委會真的要真正能夠發揮功能就好像懲徒二十二條我們國人啊 負入遭到的人身風險 |
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我們就是要不斷的透過機制我們相關的部會也在積極努力當中好啦 人道救援絕對是我們國家最基本的任務也是我們人民最後的期盼是我們政府不能只有發傳真根沒有沒有沒有我們積極的來協助最後最後有關產業的部分 |
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主委你有沒有發現大陸塑化中堅原料像尼龍纖維人造絲等產品長期利用他們的超額產能對我國基礎工業產生了低價傾銷的威脅那針對這個部分你們有沒有量化 |
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对台湾基础工业的倾销风险有没有量化是委员你讲这个非常重要中国大陆在这种传统我说的都很重要你们有没有做有有有这个非常严重过度的倾销我们台湾造成我们台湾传统产业像我们的台塑利利这些企业是大家应该知道我们如果一旦崩溃会造成多少数万家庭生计的风险是我们了解你们电话指标有做吗 |
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是我們這方面我們跟我們的經濟部門還有產業各單位都有積極的在協處避免受到中國大陸的一定要跟相關單位你們盡快展開調查才可以而且要盡快的做這個速度啊你們所做的速度就是我們產業的生命線所以了解你這個部分你今天講不出一個 |
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591.745 |
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