| IVOD_ID |
165297 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165297 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-12T10:37:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-12T10:46:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a35f0de19abcdbe33454b63d0fd62bf1b3e5644d9c426883cc7208a858208f5c7c5064231c774fdb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:37:28 - 10:46:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【11月12日及13日二天一次會】） |
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主席我請董事長跟副董事長請吳董事長還有羅文嘉副董事長董事長你好我先請教那個副董事長羅副董事長你就職到現在 |
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剛有去過台六目前沒有 九一到今天都不晚了對OK來很可惜因為那機會是成立的目的當時因為你加班九一嘛你也沒過嘛但是有透過個人 |
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的官德 現在是我們本會的官德正式搞到對話有聯繫嗎你開秘密會議我據實報告有嗎開秘密會議我據實報告開秘密會議的時候在 這不可以說啊 |
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這個應該不是什麼基本上交流是好事啦但交流本來就有官方有正事跟非正事嘛我剛才報告就是我在過去一年當中多方努力希望恢復對話多方努力希望恢復對話就是跟對方會晤嘛 |
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是輝學輝學對話輝學對話那但是結果沒有對到到現在還沒有結果好那就是完全沒有了就對了因為這是很可惜的兩岸成立海基會跟陸委會基本上我們就是走和平的路線才會需要這些單位嘛如果是要站的話基本上那 |
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你展現出來是要站那基本上就不必對話那不必對話就不需要我們這個業務單位了很可惜 我知道本縣理解是你跟副當事長個人都有很多人脈在兩岸之間可以貢獻我想如果沒請主委 |
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因為他在這裡說的話 他的本人都沒有感受到的就不是這樣嘛你起來 好 他展現出兩岸國防外交就是總統的意志這樣表示他熱情的 總統有下令不接觸 不談判 也不交流這個大大的錯誤嘛交流就可以避免擦槍走火嘛你跟他是民間的交流嘛 |
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民間的交流最好可以到政府跟政府機關政府跟政府機關你釋出生意的交流就釋出對等平權嘛啊你就閃閃閃閃 又不會輸給小人的 是在閃什麼閃到美國就不理你當事長你辛苦啦 副當事長 |
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你要說什麼剛剛委員所講的很抱歉無法同意不同意的原因我也很清楚講第一個賴總統在就職演說國慶文告講得非常清楚我歡迎跟兩岸對等健康有序交流的承諾永遠不變我們願意從觀光和就學兩個具體的作為來展開第一個所以沒有不交流但我們要對等尊嚴健康有序的交流第一個 |
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第二個目前的狀況是你剛才說為什麼董事長和我沒辦法去按照兩會的協定應該制度性往來海基會董事長也好或我個人也好我們都多次的表達我們願意前往在不涉任何政治前提下但是現在問題是他要求我們前往這個前提這不可以接受啦這不可以接受啦這我不同意你的看法是這樣我們不可以接受他的主張啦我沒叫你接受啊 |
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對啊 所以我們不可以這麼想啊你靠什麼黨又不同意我是希望民間靠大局我不是這樣啦 事情不是這樣啦我沒有變你就去啊對不對當時我心裡頭 當然需要和平的 希望和平啦去打開這個僵局這樣不就是這麼煩來來 主委來我請問你喔是嗎你在處理這個匯度 台六 你請問什麼 |
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恢復這個台六席的這個配額國籍的時候有經過施法定數嗎有經過法院申報嗎你是說 委員是說你開除人家國籍啦喔 國籍法不是陸委會的權責那是內政部的職務那不是都你們辦的嗎那跟我們無關的跟我們無關的啦你們到現在沒議事辦的 |
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都不是我們這裡所以包括他在這裡說要顛覆我們的政府還是什麼現在是在你這裡還沒有有多少人已經去開除中華民國的國籍委員是說那個有關於有一些個案 陸配 |
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他被取消我們這邊定居啊或是居留的那個因為我們接到那個很多檢舉案我們就依照這個你搬多少啊搬多少啊有經過書法在訂書嗎上次那個雅雅的他們好像有兩個剝削一個人的 |
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是戶籍不是國籍我們沒有處理國籍跟委員報告我們是依法我們兩岸條例不管是18條或是大陸人士來台定居留許可辦法相關的條文我們都是用相關的條文依法處理 |
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而且當事人也有到行政法院主你主席之前你來拜會的本席是你主席之前四月份來的時候是五月初你看本席說的到你主席之後是羅總統有給你重新的署名就是記者一切的聯絡 |
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所以做生意一年半以來 大家是適當對待我們所謂主管的部分這不用懷疑啦 這就是沒變的嘛但是在立場堅定的情形下 有什麼一點突破就沒有完全不去做到這種突破 你做了六一會主委 你有什麼說法 |
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委員我們願意不斷的突破包括我們也希望兩岸能夠健康有序的交流我們海基會也希望有機會能夠探視我們的大陸台商過去十幾年來所有的交流都沒有健康的你現在要希望健康的交流過去的交流都沒有健康過去的交流都沒有重點 |
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489.281 |
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496.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
所以你現在就是要有健康 有尊嚴 比較要風來嘛 啊我們比較要去嘛你甚至限制我們的人 盡量不要去包括什麼宗教改的 廟徽的 叫人家佩服他們 要去 要了解風險啦風險 我比你更了解的啦 兩方多風險 美國和台中說了怎樣 我們就更風險 |
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513.411 |
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523.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
都要考慮了嘛用善意可以化解敵意用敵意針對敵意當敵意上升的時候就是台灣陷入險境的時候了謝謝你謝謝委員 |