| IVOD_ID |
165291 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165291 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-12T09:40:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-12T09:48:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a35f0de19abcdbe337eb743d6ee11a61b3e5644d9c426883cc7208a858208f5ceffd30bbe266b48c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張智倫 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:40:57 - 09:48:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【11月12日及13日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 各位委員 各位官員早有請陸委會邱崔正主委 請邱主委總委好 主委好 主委今天自由時報頭版 不知道你有沒有看到他上面特別寫 這個中國紅色通緝沈伯陽委員賴清德總統呼籲韓國瑜院長挺身護國會尊嚴 |
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我想這番言論讓很多人來質疑究竟賴總統是在關心我們國人還是立委的人身安全還是在轉移焦點推卸政治責任因為我們都知道兩岸跟外交的議題跟政策皆是由總統或是行政院主導 |
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對岸啟動調查或是通緝第一個該挺身而出的應該是總統本人跟行政院等等主管機關而不是主持議事職責中立的國會的這個議長韓國瑜院長我想要先請教主委這是立法院可以管的嗎 |
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跟委員報告對於這個典型的跨國鎮壓我想他除了針對省委員之外其實他的目的是要針對所有台灣民眾的集體的脅迫對於跨國鎮壓我覺得我們要不分朝野我只是請教說你覺得認為這個是立法院可以管的嗎我覺得就是我們要譴責要共同譴責 |
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因為他這個跨國鎮壓他的目的在於恫嚇及分化我們內部那我們就是不要讓他得逞我們要更團結我們面對挑戰我們更有韌性來回擊他好 謝謝主委這等一下我要問的問題這次我們看到這件事件產生各部會 |
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我認為都沒有明確的發言對策以及具體做法等一下我要來就教我們的主委其實剛剛賴總統講的要挺身護國會尊嚴什麼是國會尊嚴我這邊跟主委報告當立法院他是立法權立法院在修法要求讓國軍加薪因為現在國軍人數很少要國軍加薪的時候結果我們行政院居然沒有編列相對的預算 |
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當立法院在幫警消及公教人員保障他們未來的退休權益退休金的時候這個行政院沒有編列預算 |
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結果現在賴總統遇到事情了以後才說要企圖把這個行政權還有外交他的這些權責要推給立法院說這個就是立法院要來維護國會尊嚴所以這個很明顯就是毀憲亂政執政失能的一個非常重要的一個問題這不僅讓我想到當時賴總統 |
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他去我們台灣這個中南部在尤其南部在救災的時候洪水啊跟淤泥啊淹沒了我們很多的家園的家鄉的時候他明明就是三軍統帥結果他不讓國軍到民眾的家裡去清淤他說你們自己組成一個 |
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這個團體你們自己去清淤這樣就好了或者是當民眾的頂樓的時候受損的時候那個民眾跟他拜託說賴總統你是不是可以請國軍還是一些專業人士幫我們再修屋頂的時候結果賴總統說你可以自己爬你可以自己爬 爬到屋頂去修啊然後發生了那麼多的憾事 |
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結果現在立法院有委員遭受通緝現在說立法院韓院長你可以自己出來自己聲援自己維護國會尊嚴嗎這樣做法不是就是一樣的做法嗎所以本席非常不能接受這樣的做法第二個問題我現在想要請教主委的是請問發生這件事情的時候賴總統有沒有下令我們陸委會有要做什麼樣的事情你們有沒有跟陸方針對這樣的事情有去做任何的溝通來請說明 |
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跟張委員報告這個事情啊除了對有沒有做了幾次 有沒有公佈都有 都有幾次只是他對不管是外交部門對陸委會都有積極的作為 |
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請明確的表示我們除了要讓國人安心放心強調中共的跨境鎮壓對我國沒有管轄權我們國人絕對不受到拘束主委我再問一件事 你們如何跟維護國家的安全去跟對岸去做溝通 你們溝通了幾次可不可以明確回應 賴總統有請你溝通了嗎那你們溝通了 去溝通了幾次 |
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我們不斷的透過我們各種的多元管道對他們都很清楚我們的立場他這種跨境的打壓對於我們國人安全上面的恫嚇以及分化我們內部我們不會讓他得逞的我們反而要更團結委員 這個事情我們應該團籌敵抗團結一心共同來譴責中共的跨境施壓 |
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所以我覺得委員你應該會站在我們這邊他這個跨境鎮壓的對象還針對國軍官兵 資通電軍 檢察官所以我要請教為什麼今天要請教陸委會的問題陸委會每年有兩百多個編制緣和一年也有十億的經費人民想要的是陸委會有明確的作為你們的plan A plan B plan C是什麼你們具體作為到底在哪裡 |
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你們有沒有去溝通你們具體作為到底在哪裡我們該溝通的會溝通你們溝通了幾次我們在我們的各種的管道上我們該講的要講他們也很清楚我們的訴求就像你剛剛講的不要用喊話來代替對話你們到底溝通了幾次 |
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我們覺得他對於我們這樣的一種跨境鎮壓我們首先要反鎮壓我們他的目的在侵略我們我們要反侵略反併吞這個事情發生到現在你們跟對岸有沒有做溝通賴總統要求你們要去溝通你們溝通了幾次 |
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我們有做這個溝通溝通幾次我們有我們不只多少次的向對岸去提出我們的嚴正聲明我想委員我們現在應該是團結一心我們絕對是團結一心可是我們也要入委會發展他的功能我們要行政單位各部會 |
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要有具體的作為我們會透過各種溝通聯繫的機制向對岸表達你們到底有沒有聯繫的機制主委為什麼我今天會請教你這個問題因為其實就您商量一年多來了這一年多來你們到底有沒有辦法跟對岸溝通的機制有沒有跟中方嚴厲表證立場跟抗議你們到底是怎麼溝通我想國人想要了解的是這個狀態你們怎麼溝通的 |
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跟委員報告真的是像你講的用喊話來代替對話嗎我們是過去那這樣陸委會既有的溝通聯繫機制我們不管是兩岸協議的機制雙方既有的機制我們都細心地在維護所以我剛剛議員問你說賴總統有沒有請你如果上面的人就要你不要溝通當然你現在我們努力溝通也要表達我們嚴正的立場你們如何溝通溝通了幾次你們最高的溝通的層級到哪裡 |
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我想我們各種的溝通都在努力我們嚴正立場也在表達謝謝主委這件事情我相信我們會繼續追希望說你們好好來做然後後續給我們一個完整的說明好不好謝謝主委謝謝委員謝謝張志倫委員 |