| IVOD_ID |
165216 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165216 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-11T10:03:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-11T10:19:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/2170dced164337aa357a5d76da2968ee85e1af54c489cd62f014e70a5f3ed7c6a7eba39b12b3691e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:03:24 - 10:19:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議（事由：一、同意權之行使事項：本院交通、教育及文化兩委員會報告審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。（11月7日上午報告事項後）二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。（11月7日下午及11日）三、11月7日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝謝主席 江副院長 卓院長 各位先進有請卓院長請卓院長備選賴文豪院長你早我看你今天有點火氣不過我先講一下我沒有請你回答不要回答好不好 |
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讓我話講完你再回答那麼今天看到你面對媒體問你說王世堅點名 王委員點名說你來選台北市長你用俏皮的說是你選一次回答我是覺得你被王世堅吃豆腐王世堅另外一句話講什麼95%講完連任 |
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他的吟下詩意就是他推薦鄭麗君推薦左龍泰當炮灰你當然不要當炮灰啊我這樣講法對吧要問王委員本身對不對你不要問我啊我怎麼知道你同意不同意就是王委員這種講法就是吃你豆腐啊 |
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他都說95%一定是蔣萬安當選連任王委員的意思王委員的意思要問他要問我的話第一個我不會是炮灰我也不會是豆腐 |
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被吃豆腐啊 我都替你難過一個院長被吃豆腐他跟你說 家族5%一定是蔣安安當選我不要選 他不要當炮灰他講其他理由 推薦一個叫鄭麗君或者朱龍泰好啦 你不好回答就不要回答了但是 我告訴你你被吃豆腐 因為你要當炮灰然後我們來看 |
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現在來講 大家很關心的 總預算還沒有勿違啊你一直講說你不要當違憲的院長 言猶在耳當初我們在推說普發現金一萬你也說違憲 後來你也發了啊你也發了啊 我們來看喔我們經過法律的調整我沒有請你回答 不要回答 |
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我們你依法不依法編列三讀通過的軍人加薪給志願役加薪我們這麼多武器我們讓你希望我們的 |
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支援你的人越來越多而且現在的一個邊縣比八成左右而且有1.2萬的人他寧願被罰他都不要當兵啦 灰暗啦 怕死啦對不對 結果警消退休預算也通過了 你也不要影響是什麼 現在卡住囉 |
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總預算卡住了卡住了我們要呼籲嘛那我們跟美國不一樣美國今天的國會美國的政府關門了關門40天他解套了因為他們沒有像台灣這麼厲害我們的憲法我們這裡法律很厲害 |
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新的預算沒有通過 或預算沒有通過舊的可以用好了 但新的不可以用哪幾個不會增加經濟部今天增加383億國花費只有增加0.6億農業部增加49億國防部增加938但是如果加上特別預算國防部增加的是3000億之多你講過一句話 |
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這句我覺得是對的你說我要找韓院長找立法院韓院長來溝通一下是不是解決一個看一個怎麼樣有一個solution請問你到現在為止有找韓院長嗎我跟韓院長在重要的時刻我們都有溝通如果針對委員所提的這件事情我認為我在總諮詢結束的前後應該跟韓院長有正式的一個談話大概什麼時候 |
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總諮詢結束的前後下禮拜就結束了對啊 那也要看韓院長的時間啊儘快齁 奇怪 照理講是你們要擠啊我們替你擠啊 奇怪咧如果韓院長同意啊如果韓院長同意 我也想請委員一起來參加我跟你講啊 院長啊你要逼我們擠啊 現在怎麼說我們在擠呢我們覺得不忍這個國家整個停擺美國就停擺了40天 |
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10%以上的航班整個都是霧點他的圖書館沒有人管這個公園沒有人管很慘但我們因為我們的法律訂的比較好 |
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舊的預算可以用新的沒問題所以以前也有發生過啊到去年的4月5月重預算才通過這不是不好啦我希望院長我們一起來努力好不好大家努力啦你要做一個守規矩的院長啦你不要動不動講違憲違憲不違憲不是你的權利也不是你講的算因為我在講你剛回答了前面的委員說這個違憲我不要當違憲院長 |
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後來經過我們修正啊經過行政院修正之後那是依照行政院的版本再發的我們請那個部長一起來哪一位部長經濟部長美國關稅的下一步 |
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總統說台美談判會有好的進展那是10月22號快一個月囉昨天我到委員會問了我們公務部長哇他這個很會打太激情的樣子打太激情了我說什麼時候可以搞定台美關稅不要20加N不要疊加什麼時候可以搞定公務員長說快了快了我先問左院長什麼時候可以搞定左院長 |
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我們都有 什麼時候可以搞定我們雖然都沒有到美國我們都有實際參與整個作業我們認為現在已經到了最後的階段因為全世界也剩下台灣這句話一個月以前就說過了我跟你講美國政府停擺你也知道的你也知道美國政府停擺所以他很多事情也停下來了 |
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那個高層沒有停擺啦齁 你不要隨便亂講你看喔 我們是最早跟美國談的四個國家之一齁 我唱咧齁 台灣你看喔 我讚咧全市民 到現在咕咕咕啊 人家都定了韓國定了 日本定了 台灣沒有定了 |
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有一個說法是說那川習會之後才定那APEC他們見面呢也沒有定難道要等到明年4月才定喔他們明年4月才會見面呢難道是這樣子嗎 |
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台美雙方都希望能夠盡快的把盡快是什麼時候?年底可以嗎?這個不是我方一方的意願我說我算個時間這個結果是什麼?像剛剛委員說我跟海運長見面我可以說我有個期待的時間但跟美方不能說我方算個時間你可以啦這個是買方市場賣方市場 |
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我們會努力盡快 我跟委員承諾 努力盡快 而且最近應該會有一些進展我們來談最近 最近是什麼 什麼叫最近英文叫Listening 你知道最近你告訴我什麼時候叫最近 我們來看喔我們來看 你們要談的結果是什麼傳統產業 比如說工具機 將近5%Plus 20等於25 很辛苦 |
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郭志輝部長有說除了關稅以外對傳統產業最重要是匯率 |
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他心目中希望能夠三十一業者我去打聽了希望三十四部長你要不要講一下你心目中要不要跟郭志輝一樣三十一雖然那個是央行的職者職權但是你總是有一個主觀的期待吧替我們中小企業替我們的傳統產業講講話他們真的很辛苦 |
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匯率你心目中有沒有一個政府官員不適合談匯率怎麼不適合 郭部長就在這裡講31啊我們只能講說匯率要保持穩定不要波動太大 短期間不要波動太大 |
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因為傳統產業講說要34%比較好阿以後你講32% 他講31%現在多少你知道嗎 現在多少現在費率也差不多算穩定現在多少你知道嗎30塊8 30塊9吧 左右30點多 將近31%啦穩定 長期穩定就好你講31%是很安全啦 你怎麼不敢講呢我這整個是市場在決定的喔 第二個 第二個現在 |
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美國最高法院審理川普的關稅案川普可能輸喔你現在看到不管這個大法官是來自於藍的紅的就是民主黨或者共和黨他們基本上都認為川普違憲他要賠20兆美金請問部長 |
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或者院長有沒有想過我們廠商這段時間從8月開始20加N 20加N一直課我們原來大概只有2%幾%而已有的5%我們能不能回到原來當然這個錢不是全部全部進口商付但是我們也付一部分出口商付一部分比如說要課20塊進口商10塊出口商10塊 |
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我們能不能去跟他要貨啦 可不可以公民報的兩件事第一個這個對等關稅是美國對全世界普遍性的不是單對我國 |
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所以我們要脫離這樣神奇的秩序目前來看當然是困難的再來你要回到過去那種個位數的關稅現在各國看起來也沒有這樣的情況有 我要告訴你如果川普被判違憲三個結果第一個結果不溯及計畫可能就拿走了就拿走了這個川普想要的是這樣拿走拿走第二個部分溯及計畫過去課的多少 拿一部分回來第三個全部溯及 |
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這三個都可能發生 三個都可能發生那我現在就問你 你們做了沙盤推特別是經濟部長我看你這一副 我都不知道啊沒有 報告委員 事實上以川普政府來講的話 雖然他 |
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我們不知道他們大法官會怎麼判但是他還有其他的工具包括232他很多的項目已經搬到232去了他還有301所以我們還是要做好準備我們提升我們的競爭力比較重要你自動要講啊你故意給我歐陵稅都我問你說我們已經被他課的關稅能不能把要點回來替廠商要點回來幫廠商一點忙你說沒有回答問題啊沒有 他們最高法院都還沒有判啊 |
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你準備好沒有 你有沒有想過你有沒有想過我們政府可以幫忙要你回來假如可以給人家的話不是 他們最高法院判的話如果要緩緩就會緩緩啊他不見得都還給出口商我們出口商不一定拿得到他是還給美國的進口公司知道吧 比如說比如說就是Amazon |
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或者是Costco或者是什么Walmart它是还给Walmart |
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因為沃瑪進來的時候我們已經付一部分他也付一部分所以全部他拿走我們要不要這個沃瑪幫助廠商把他拿一點回來我是問你這個如果是這樣的話我們當然會協助廠商爭取他的權益請問你請問我就在院長面前了齁可不可以責成經濟部啊這個事情先做一個事先的規劃一下如果川普 |
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足了他們要緩緩關稅部分也好全部也好我們經濟部怎麼樣引領可以嗎一個禮拜一個計畫提出來可以嗎可不可以 |
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我們現在第一個掌握是說原來多少在對等關稅的他已經移到232那個部分將來如果世襲有一個判決的結果會不會影響這部分如果川普關稅他輸了我們的因應報告可以吧兩個部分一個就是原來在對等關稅他已經要移到232將來這個判決之後有結果出來會不會連232這個也會影響這是一個部分你講的可不可以告訴我們部長 |
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第一個部分就是部長說的第一個部分就是部長說的那在這裡面他依照判決的結果我方一定要爭取我們在上面行為上有利的條件再簡單一點啦兩個禮拜以內提出這樣的報告或者你上網讓外界看得到可以嗎報告委員可以嗎可以嗎我問你可以嗎我是覺得啦在他們美國大法就是最高法院還沒有判決之前我們出這樣的報告 |
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是不是會影響到...好 那判決之後兩個禮拜以內 提出報告可以嗎可以可以 上網 判決以後兩個禮拜內上網好 我們來看 今天媒體有寫到中油弊案說中油的高層說錢太多你們盡量的福報我們農業部長一起上來好不好農業部長一起上來可以嗎請 陳部長 |
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總有的你們要不要一起查一下立案去查一下可以嗎他說錢太多事實上113年的時候就是之前已經有查了有沒有這回事有人提到政風已經查過一次了沒有這回事但是現在有新的事證我們會再查一次我最後請農業部長講一下獨彈的 |
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我們現在那個源頭在哪裡 現在找不到啊源頭在哪裡 告訴我們 趕快 20幾秒我跟委員說明 現在初步看起來是一個單一的個案因為分埔泥本身是殺蟲劑那基本上它不能用在機制上面但是可能是旁邊因為有農田那我們現在正在瞭解然後現在總共有4批的這些雞蛋那這些雞蛋全部下架除了彰化以外 其他地方可能也有 |
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除了藏外以外 其他地方也有 有沒有可能都沒有 其他因為我們例行好 謝謝賴委員 謝謝 |