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IVOD_ID 165171
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165171
日期 2025-11-06
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-4-22-5
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 4
會議資料.會次 5
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.標題 第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-11-06T11:49:15+08:00
結束時間 2025-11-06T11:56:43+08:00
影片長度 00:07:28
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委員名稱 洪孟楷
委員發言時間 11:49:15 - 11:56:43
會議時間 2025-11-06T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:邀請國立故宮博物院院長蕭宗煌列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。 【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 咨询时间四分钟谢谢好主席谢谢麻烦请故宫院长请院长
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 好 院長好委員長院長今年故宮百年本席也非常重視所以百年怨氣那一天本席也親自前往那當然很多人都會講是說這個羅浮宮看到這樣的一個失竊案件那故宮真的一定要小心跟注意那我比較直接的想請教到目前為止我們有沒有去了解說羅浮宮到底為什麼這一次被失竊的主要原因是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 当然有可是我们不便公开来评论我们透过什么样的管道有跟这边掌握因为其实我想这个是一个就是说如果说有安全机密上的考量的话你可以不便评论但是我觉得最重要的是我们要看到别人的问题我们来思考是说他们有这样的一个状况那我们真的要看到不足的地方就改进避免这样的一个憾事在我们这个发生我们都不希望发生
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 所以我們有沒有確實去了解是說到底為什麼羅浮宮在這一次他有被竊盜的一個狀況對於這個平息的話我們當然有跟委員我們可以給委員可是不便公開的去評論油管的狀況好
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 那其中媒體上有報導其實主要是在於是監視器的實腳以及人員的配置還有安全維護的比例過低這是媒體已經有公開的一個報導的部分那監視器的實腳我想先確認一下到目前為止我們故宮全院來講我們監視器是不是有百分之百的一個掌握
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 故宮的監視器我們強調就是希望做到無死角可是任何的安全防護的話都還有強化的空間所以目前還是有死角沒有死角你剛不是講說安全強化還有空間對 晚上約會的話一定跑不掉一定會被遭到
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 開玩笑好笑嗎不好笑對不起我的意思是說因為故宮的監視器的我在跟你講說現在世界發生了一個重大的竊案過去沒有人想過說羅浮宮會有珠寶被盜然後故宮到底現在我們的監視器有沒有死角
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 你跟我讲男欢女爱约会我们监视器我是强调说故宫监视器的布线基本上来讲的话好 请在会后给本席我们现在故宫的一个监视就相关的一个资料好不好可以公开的请让本席知道第二 安全维护比例过低我们现在一年的预算有多少编列在安全维护上
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 因為預算的編列的話就是這邊的話是總共九千五百多萬那當然這個所謂的九千多萬占故宮的比例來講的話我們的預算比例的話當然如果是用六分之一左右就差不多不到20%嘛
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 對不對那不到20%以現在羅浮宮羅浮宮講說他一年我看了一個資料一年羅浮宮比例其實是比我們他應該將近10億10億對照他的遊客以及他的量體跟我們這比例來講我們的維護有沒有要提升的地方
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 當然要可以提升當然要提升這個統計的基礎要看看到底他的計算所謂的安全維護的話是在哪一部分如果包括所有的人力的部分的話當然那個比例就會提高很多是所以本席才會提醒就既然已經有一個實驗組了那我們相對來講我們要做到滴水不漏不能有這樣的一個事情發生在故宮這一點請院長記在心裡該檢討要檢討是還有第三
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 第一名也跟我關了當時我在嘉義當文化局長的時候我們就把那個院子給設立下來嘉義勢力博物館第二名佛光山佛陀紀念館第三名中正紀念堂故宮排到第幾名
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 故宮跳來跳去有時候七有時候八甚至會到九滿意嗎不滿意但是我跟委員報告因為各個博物館或是文化機構他們的統計基礎不一樣故宮的話是用售票跟那個
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 跟那个电子监控的方式对 售票或是免费像嘉义势力博物馆它可能是免费不用门票它要门票它有部分的部分它是需要门票但是我讲的是说门票高低也是有一个落差可是在重点是过去大家讲到来台湾看故宫看中华文物这些都是我们应该可以更加行销宣传的部分我只讲一点
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 院長在你心目中現在故宮博物院在全世界排名我們到底以前我們講說我們跟羅浮宮跟大都會博物館跟大英博物館並駕齊驅四大博物館我們有沒有這個氣魄跟這樣子的一個雄心我想增排名的話是沒有辦法去增排名因為現在大的博物館越蓋越大所以那個大小的問題是另外包括說
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 包括说这一个月文物最大的新闻是什么全世界就是大埃及博物馆20年的筹备10亿美金的建设到最后落成39个国家的元首前往
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 為什麼故宮博物院要做那個所謂的新故宮計畫的原因也是因為我們希望說在整個展勝能量跟空間優化上面都可以提升院長如果有雄心壯志或說真的我們要努力計畫出來我們不會有反對就像過去本席一直也是教育文化委員會委員但
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 本席要提的是今天業務報告主席站起來了但本席要提的真的是業務報告見為知著如果說從一個院慶我們行政部門行政院院長沒有到總統沒有到然後到我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 讨论这些部分你跟我讲男欢女爱我真的没有看到你有意愿或是有雄心想要努力为故宫争取过去光荣的感觉我跟您算旧事啊但我对事不对人
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 我真的希望院長可以好好的努力加油也做多一點表率給我們故宮所有同仁看我還是肯定故宮但我希望故宮能夠做更好謝謝委員的指教