| IVOD_ID |
165152 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165152 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-06 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-06T10:25:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-06T10:32:31+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1b25429c8c6a3a8c39cc7770d94e95dab96356aa020e99bb422b881fe7d28f452cfcc21c557743ff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:25:26 - 10:32:31 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會（事由：舉行「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」及「外送員權益保障及外送平臺管理法草案」公聽會。） |
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謝謝昭偉很可惜我要發言前昭偉都把話都講完了齁那我要講我們現場外送夥伴你的時薪有270嗎你的時薪有270嗎 |
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我想這根本你問ChapGPT他都可以幫你簡單的收集相關的數據跟資料跟實際上我們所面對到的所有外送夥伴有很大的差異這些美化的數字這些實際背後所產生的每一個人的故事真的是用這些數據就可以顯現的嗎我舉例來說剛剛平台業者的代表有說到這些人都有正職 |
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他們只是兼職我想試問在座的每一個人如果一份工作能夠讓你養活你該有的這個家庭跟生活你會希望做兩份嗎你會希望做兩份嗎就是因為平台不斷的不斷的片面的調降相關的報酬所以迫使這些人必須還要再去找其他的工作來維持他的生計 |
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我也很感謝我的學姊賴香玲在當時我們也跟她就教於這一方面的相關提案的版本聽到了很多的一些心聲跟建議我還是要再一次的強調不要只有講到西雅圖啊紐約的模式我們也可以探討啊說公聽會多辦幾場可以啊 可以支持啊但是為什麼這六年來都沒有做為什麼要等到廖瑋祥 |
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去準備要執行這樣子的一個政策去探討的時候大家變得很積極了那這6年來被剝削的這些人呢我擔任議員的時候我曾經遇過業者我現在講的不是平台是賣飲料的業者還沒有準備好要上架就被冒名上架了一杯飲料一杯飲料 |
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在平台上面找得到1599一杯飲料我們找不到申訴的管道我到處去找最後才找到平台好不容易好不容易才找到平台可以申訴才下架我也遇過外送員買了一杯飲料叫外送員送到火車站 |
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結果火車來了 買的人等不及了 上了火車外送員問他 你在哪裡他說 我等不及了 你自己喝吧好 外送員很緊張啊 為什麼因為他只要隨便一個申訴 他馬上就被停權結果呢 真的就被停權了 |
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一個受害者一個辛辛苦苦在工作的人送達目的地結果呢因為他等不上自己的火車抓不好時間最後受害的是誰外送員當時要開一個記者會才能夠讓他恢復這些都是平台業者在剛剛所講的數據當中沒有講的今天我們看到平台業者說時薪270 |
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說這些人賺到了四萬五賺到了六萬所以他看到了他們的薪資很高就可以片面的調降薪資是這樣嗎這沒有充分的溝通啊 |
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所以我要講的是在21世紀在如此民主的中華民國我們還有看到這些核心的勞動者卻因為制度的規範不足長期面臨報酬不穩定工作風險高還有勞動保障不夠明顯這樣的結構性問題啊勞動部就說我們用衛生指引就可以顧及他的這些職業安全顧及他的勞動權益 |
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今天我們為什麼站在這裡我要跟大家講今天如此推動外送員專法要立法的是誰是平台是平台讓整個外送員專法加速進行推進為什麼因為剝削啊 |
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一手拿著所有的餐飲業者的錢一手拿著外送員剝削的錢我們當然要保障所有消費者不要被亂漲價所以這個過程可以更穩健可以更謹慎但是這個過程6年了 |
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6年了台中的代表說他6年前就在這裡發聲到現在6年了你告訴我再冷我也要呼籲勞動部你乾脆就把民進黨的黨團版本單稱是我們現在行政院的院版吧趕緊來審吧再等一個月再等三個月我想請教就教於現場所有的夥伴現場所有的官員現場所有的媒體 |
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跟你說 你再被剝削一個月兩個月版本就出來 你願意嗎對不起 我聽不下去但這一個漫長的道路已經六年了不是不支持平台而是這個過程中太多人被剝削我們看到太多的案例不要只是拿著這些美化的數據跟實際上是的確有看到真的很大的差異我們看到的是 |
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越來越強的演算法越來越賺的平台但是卻是越來越低的報酬給著這些業者餐飲業者跟這些外送員今天早上記者會也有店家的代表因為參與活動被剝削趕緊的申訴換來的是非常冗長甚至是不顧權益的一個等待 |
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最後一定要鬧到把他鬧大了平台才願意重視店家所以我們看到的是平台真的沒有充分的溝通充分的申訴管道透明的一個機制獎勵以及演算法在 |
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驅使著這些工作人員變成是工具人所以我們希望今天我們可以慎重的來討論這個立法的過程但是不要忘記這些人正在等待著奇蹟發生謝謝羅廷偉委員發言那待會顧尚軍副秘書長 |