| IVOD_ID |
165128 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165128 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T13:13:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T13:20:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d2d0ddadcba4b4da7dd470ab4440ded08e6b4ef68dc504cb3c2dc82480404c6b195ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡易餘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:13:40 - 13:20:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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這個外山頂洲的固沙那這個外山頂洲的固沙從111年的時候事實上我們內政部就有通過防止外山頂 |
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防止外陝頂洲沙洲流失的整體防護計畫那當時的防護計畫主要規劃就是說因為布袋山港他在他的南堤那邊有73.5萬方的一個沙源那當時是說把這些沙就直接搬到外陝頂洲去但是第一個運費非常的龐大第二個因為現在 |
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這些沙另有他用在布袋山港這邊正在進行填海造陸所以大概這個沙源的補充就不會再從布袋山港那外山頂洲的固沙的沙源要從哪裡來呢我們後來又開了幾次的會我們認為最好的方法就是從外山頂洲的西側 |
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然後來進行抽砂 把砂直接抽到外山頂周然後在外山頂周創造一條中央山脈中央山脈就可以防止海浪跑過來把外山頂周的砂都掛下去掛下去之後整個外山頂周就會持續流失所以大概這樣的一個固砂計畫 |
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方向都有了但是不知道核定了嗎這一個整個的變更計畫這樣核定了嗎所以想要請教一下我們內政部蔡委員這是國家公園署我是不是請王署長跟你回一下好國家公園署謝謝委員謝謝委員對這個案子的關心那這個案子事實上因為剛剛委員有提到本來用布袋的那個三港的一個沙園然後改由東石系府那個沙園 |
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那這個案子也感謝委員在今年年初事上有召開了一個協調會議那會議完以後要改變這個計畫那今年6月份我本人也主持這樣的一個跨部會的一個協商會議那目前來講的話固殺跟抽殺的部分是由水利署這邊來執行然後呢漁民的溝通跟補償的部分是由嘉義縣政府跟漁業署這邊來處理那這個整個處理的那個計畫事實上啊 |
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我已经请两个单位把这个变更的那个计划报到我们署里面来汇整那这个汇整的工作已经在今年9月24号已经报到行政院去那行政院目前是交由工程会这边来请教相关单位然后大概工程会会再给行政院行政院大概就会核定下来那这个计划因为有一些变更所以这个计划会延到116年来执行那相关单位也就是说水利署 |
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跟農委會約束這邊他們要去編編相關的意思116就是後年的意思啦所以事實上可能明年就是跟漁民溝通嘛因為我們在看下一張圖啦事實上你看外山頂洲你來看它的西側這裡有很多一格一格的這個如果你來看會有密集恐懼症這個不是有人在網路上亂講說這是太陽人板這不是太陽人板喔這是鵝尾這是鵝尾 |
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這是我們要吃的蚵仔都來自這個當場的這片海也因為有外山頂座把它保護起來所以我們才有這麼肥美的蚵仔可以吃但是現在就是說因為整個東石的這個細湖因為外山頂座讓它形成一個細湖 |
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正在嚴重的內陸化這個內陸化是很嚴重的 等於說未來我們企鵝啊這個空間都要變陸地了所以我們才說 外陝頂州的抽砂同時也是避免東石這一個細湖繼續內陸化 等於說一隻六艘船上來往上停舟 |
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也是拯救了這裡的養蚵產業所以我們這個計畫整個方向都是非常正確的而且我們如果早一點跟漁民溝通他們可以在我們在工程期間他們先停止他們的這個蚵的蚵棚的這一個釋放跟養殖他們可以配合所以大家都支持現在就是查我們行政作業早一點這樣好不好好這部分行政業已經在處理了那這部分就是就要 |
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營業部已經編組預算了小栗鼠這邊要編組預算那個固砂跟抽砂這個工程事實上是經費蠻龐大的沒有錯 當然就有預算的問題嘛但是在111年的時候蘇貞昌院長就有核定12億了嘛只是當時12億有很多是在做運輸費用那我是說 既然那個運輸費用就不用去卡那條啊就算了 算過來才抽算 還是應該要有錢啦 |
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對啦 有啦 有啦 我就要當初開會的時候叫經濟部這邊要加緊這個腳步好 加緊腳步 好 那在第二個第二個議題 是不是我找一下移民署 |
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那我直接跟部長講 說部長我們嘉義縣 我們那個移民署 這個移民署的嘉義嘉義的這個辦事處 基本上他就是我們郵局租的辦公廳舍啦 辦公廳舍所以你每次看 他跟郵局混用 然後移民署在這邊就好像這個空間已經很老舊 而且空間也很小啦 |
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我們是不是看部長能不能適度的支持我們嘉義的這個移民署的這個辦公廳社是不是有機會來新建來蓋一個新的啦找新的地方找新的地方當然啦當然啦因為這是遊郊現在都在遊郊現在都在遊郊做的 |
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但是我看很安全啦 不過如果是有這個使用啦 那就空間 因為它本身是遊郷的用的 空間是很小喔遊郷不可以讓我們用的是不是遊郷喔 遊郷我講一下就不可以讓你們用 |
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委員對我們移民署這麼不好這樣的話就是如果有需要的話我請這個我們移民署跟這個嘉義縣我們移民署的同仁來商量一下第一個我們希望在比較多人口出入的地方對於很多移民業務上面包括很多新住民的協助會比較大那如果你要蓋新的部分的話移到邊邊角角當然不要到邊邊角角我的意思就是說我們事實上現在有一些產業園區那產業園區裡面還是會有 |
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一些是屬於可以做一些聽色的就是說那個產業園區另外的空間事實上那邊就是產業園區事實上也是移工比較會密集群聚的地方所以我覺得事實上在那些空間來爭取我們可以來評估一下但是最好是現在就是國公有的建物 |
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不要再重新去 因為你剛才叫我們停棄 停棄我們沒有錢啦但是國共有的建物要找新的承受空間我們可以試試看 |