| IVOD_ID |
165127 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165127 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T13:02:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T13:13:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d245b9c1055b108a7dd470ab4440ded08e6b4ef68dc504cb3c5e656c1fa01693ff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:02:45 - 13:13:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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那麼在台東物路力道南橫端那邊其實發生很嚴重的災情但是消息比較緩慢那我要特別謝謝因為消防署在這邊也謝謝內政部長因為我們很多的人民跟我們求救請求協助的時候我們 |
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來打電話都立刻處理像是那個時候有三名就是需要洗腎的病人那也謝謝出動直升機去把他們帶出來那很多的救援的一個事項我個人是覺得說其實老百姓都很感謝因為他們覺得效率很好在這邊先說聲謝謝那另外就是也跟消防署有關就是 |
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我在上一屆進來立法院的時候特別針對向山致敬政策有做過很多次的質詢當時蘇貞昌院長是回應說向山是政策 致敬是態度 |
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所以呢當時我也很關心就是關於登山基地我希望能夠去做一些登山基地好讓那些登山的人能夠有一個起點那如果有什麼事故呢也可以在那個地方 |
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有一個通報所以後來國家公園跟林保署都有回應說要開始早點做只是好像又過了兩三年好像不了了之所以我來這邊質詢只是說我想了解一下可以給我提供數據 數面資料讓我了解進度我可不可以請兩位署長跟您先回應一下好 謝謝 |
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委員關心高雄市這個案件我們跟高雄市協調好那可以用初請的車輛的一個費用已經處理好那個我知道了謝謝對好 |
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那个委员问的登山基地是不是会委托部落这边来协助的这个议题吗没有那个时候其实我也有亲自去看过都有开过说明会说会选点做登山基地因为有的是属于国家公园的有的是属于林保署的我们的部分后来好像就不了了之有预管的这个部分我们跟东浦部落这边其实有在 |
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有在跟他們溝通那在太館這邊還有在還有一個地方雪壩那邊事實上我們有跟部落這邊來做溝通我們是希望他們能夠我希望也能夠通知辦公室要不然我覺得很多人問我說委員我們都有看到你質詢然後你也有做圖卡結果呢他們問我說到底結果如何那我自己也不知道好嗎 |
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會後再提供 相關這三個國家公務員不過唯一我要謝謝的就是目前因為那時候有爭取到營建署有補助經費所以在屏東那邊的大武山登山基地那個已經很棒了所以我在這個地方也跟我們營建署現在叫國土署來致謝接下來我就是想說剛才消防署長知道我要問什麼就立刻先告訴我我這樣子說我其實只是要鋪陳 |
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因為那個時候既然致敬是態度我接到很多族人的陳情跟我說委員我們經常幫忙去救難也背大體重點是我的車子也載大體也沒有看到有表揚也沒有看到給我們獎金所以那時候我有質詢我很高興112年的時候質詢有告訴我說會開始編我確實也看到 |
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提升三育事故救援效能五年忠誠計畫我以為說計畫也有了 經費也編列了直到有人跟我講說委員你那個時候也有做圖卡說以後救援的話會有獎金有表揚跟我說怎麼沒有所以我回過頭來問有是有跟我們想像的不一樣 |
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原來這些是交給一個協會去處理那我就不懂了這個協會怎麼會知道全國各地發生的救援情形而且這些人他也不知道這個協會是誰他也不知道要找誰他唯一能夠找的就是當地的消防分隊可是消防分隊說不知道 |
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所以這個部分我其實也有邀請我們的副署長有來辦公室討論目前我知道的改善計畫就如剛才消防署長所講的那兩部車如果有再大體就編錢給他但是我覺得這個跟我們當時的初衷不一樣 |
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所以我現在要講的是說後來又告訴我說那我們在原住民的部分做一個原住民特收隊啦也是很高興我們聽了也是很高興但是呢我看到計畫裡面只有補助救援裝備器材訓練課程而且我看到你們的會議記錄地方政府是說可能沒有什麼誘因人員招募會很困難 |
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所以我想了解說如果沒有誘因的狀況下沒有獎金不知道能不能夠招募成功署長 |
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是很感謝委員我們3月計畫跟委員報告目前明年的委託計畫事實上不是一個協會是每個縣有好幾個協會那每個協會裡面都有原住民同胞可能這樣一個處理可能還沒有辦法沒辦法達到委員所關心的一個目標所以明年度的一個委託計畫目前我們正在跟法律 |
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顧問這邊再來討論如果說釋法可以做的話明年度就可以朝向比較開放的方式來執行我希望能夠救我們原來的初衷就是很簡單消防署消防分隊有叫我去救援 |
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那我希望有個表揚希望能夠有個獎勵金就這麼簡單那我希望這個部分能夠再去考慮只是我現在要講的是說如果把剛才講的這個救援計畫跟現在的原住民特搜隊有沒有可能把它有一個整併的方式 |
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是跟委員報告原住民特收對現在就是我們採取比較開放的方式不設定說它是什麼主軸那主要是原住民能夠進來可以針對山區的一個救援能夠加入就跟委員關心的願不願意進來有什麼優因所以我們也考慮就是剛才3D計畫這個區塊怎麼做一個搭配做一個結合我希望能夠搭配如果朝原住民特收然後去做這樣的那個我覺得 |
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這樣子應該大家都會很耐心好 畢竟救援都在山區嘛也不會在平地好 謝謝那請給我最後一分鐘我只要講一分鐘部長 請教一下你看一下這個照片因為我照片 那個天花板掉下來因為我 |
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兩個月前有接到一個任務就是現在要做這些什麼原家中心文件站他們都是去借公共空間能借的大概這幾年都借完了舊的派出所 舊的衛生所舊的什麼辦公 村辦公室能借的都借了那他們跟我講什麼呢就是颱風的時候突然整個天花板掉下來 |
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那很危險所以他們跟我說能不能夠臨時幫他們找一些貨櫃屋讓他們做臨時的辦公室那我也做到了就是有一個貨櫃40尺的裝潢得很漂亮讓他們做一個臨時辦公室我其實要講的是說其實我不曉得內政部這個地方有沒有可能去想一個辦法因為教育部因為我們大概這些地方的公共建物國民政府來之後 |
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都蓋得很簡陋後來大概民國五十幾年六十幾年齁陸續就是有蓋比較好的聽社可是又過了五六十年現在那些又變成是老舊的可是像國小的校舍國中的校舍教育部有編列經費 |
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讓他們在這幾年全面都變成新的校舍可是我看到很多的代表會也好 鄉公所也好 村辦公室也好哇 很辛苦啊 非常的辛苦那現在政府推那麼多社福政策我們也找不到公共空間可以利用所以只是想要問說我們內政部 民政事這邊有沒有可能去 |
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想一想要怎麼樣來編列這樣的科目預算那未來呢也許利用8年的時間4年的時間把這個全國的需要改善的空間都能夠來處理好嗎 |
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包委員 前瞻預算我們到目前為止已經補助了原鄉地區的公所跟代表會有19件有5億多元村里集會所也補助了26件有7千多萬不過前瞻的預算是到今年8月底為止那後續我們會配合行政院的政策看看如何來協助地方要主動啊原住民55個鄉鎮才做了多少年19個 |
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我還沒有把那個村辦公室活動中心算進去喔我想教育部可以這樣子做我們內政部也應該來爭取行政院的經費好不好好 謝謝 |