| IVOD_ID |
165126 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165126 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T12:55:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T13:02:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d2beea839d6cf8d38dd470ab4440ded08e6b4ef68dc504cb3c5e656c1fa01693ff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳宗憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:55:20 - 13:02:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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吳宗憲委員質詢好謝謝麻煩部長請安保定委員好部長你好部長我想就直接開始我的論述那部長我想請問一下 |
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目前我們國家的狀況啊我來講國家其實不能夠說有事我們就找警察然後警察現在來跟我們談一些退休待遇的時候那這時候好像就說不關我的事啊你一方面卡著人家的錢然後說再補發一方面又說再補發其實這不是治理這只是嚴重的失職啊其實是你當一個警校的大家長我覺得這個其實是 |
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您應該去問問看基層他們心裡的想法那全區部還有人總上個月我沒有問你問題全區部還有人總上個月來內政委員會其實報告得非常的清楚那包括適用的對象 系統建制 計算還有待遇的調整那都在你們五次跨部會協調會議裡面陸續定案那全區部也有提到替代率的上限還有隨那個本縫調整等等的規則而且有負責這些資訊的建制好 那我想請教部長 |
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那這些是你們開會都確認過的對不對我們在五次的協商會議呢都是有派員過去參加好謝謝那我想請問一下既然都已經有派員過去那顯必你們一定對於這個會議很清楚那我想請教一下那對於提高退休金資格的適用對象目前是不是已經有明確的名單了請問部長大概多少 |
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三萬八千多人有三萬八千多人對不起 詳細的那個名單我是不是請署長跟委員報告一下沒有 我只說有沒有明確的名單的嘛你是說人數是吧不是人數 有沒有名單 誰可以當然有啊名單就是有三萬八千多名好 有就是有每個人是誰可以領誰會你們有名單的嘛 好那現在是這樣啦 就是說 |
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我想上個月16號我們的牛許廷委員他其實有質詢過那其實有表示9月就已經完成名單的清冊所以這個一定有那我想請教一下部長那可不可以開放讓個人去查詢他屬不屬於自己屬不屬於名單的範圍內我說他個人不可能讓他查別人可不可以讓他個人去查詢他自己是不是屬於名單的範圍內 |
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報告委員這個是全序部的系統不是由內政部來主管所以必須要有全序部你們有去開會啊不行這個跟各自相關的話我們還是要在分工上面做比較好的處理所以這個不歸你們管不是不是我們的權限不是不歸我們報告委員 |
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那你有沒有去問嘛你有沒有去爭取因為你是警消的大家長那這些警察消防他們到底有沒有這個他可以很多人都問到底自己屬不屬於那個範圍內很多人說他搞不清楚那搞不清楚你不能叫小警員去問全區部說請全區部回答嘛他一定是透過內政部來去請教這件事啊那你現在不能說這個是全區部的事不關我的事那你要當他大家長還是當他小弟一個簡單的只要是警察官退休的都是 |
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那是不是 這個就是很明確 你是屬於人家只有適用的這只是警察官退休的那這樣啦 就是警察官退休這樣子啦 我們不能夠籠統的講啦我跟你說再嚴謹的這種標準都會有一些很偏離職的一些人他搞不清楚自己到底屬不屬於所以是不是可以麻煩你們協調權需部至少能夠讓 |
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這些人可以稍微查一下他到底是不是範圍內那我再請教一下部長那你們現在都在講說等釋憲結果嘛那我先不姑且不論釋憲這個事情對或不對啦我請教一下如果釋憲說合憲那你們是馬上 |
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下個月就一次補足嗎是這樣子做嗎就是編列預算的進度到哪裡去我們會追溯會追溯還是一次給足沒有會追溯按照原來的發放辦法我也知道追溯追溯的方式是一次給足還是分期請教部長 |
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你是說以前欠的部分嗎因為未來他按月或者是按他的那個年限是另外一回事你說以前的部分不是啊 我們三四月就通過的法案嘛我知道 我知道委員的意思那你的回溯是一次補足還是分期還給他嘛你要跟我講 我的問題這麼簡單 |
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我的問題就這麼簡單如果你連這個都不知道顯然你就是配合著左翁泰在那邊不發嘛如果有想要發的話因為你的問題我不了解啊如果你可以把問題講得很清楚我就會清楚的回應你不能說無線上告是政治性的操作你只跟我說我會回溯還給人民但是呢回溯一次給還是分次給你到現在還沒有 |
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那預算如何編列 我們就按照預算編列的方式處理所以啊 你看你到現在你都還搞不清楚啊編列預算也是你們的事情啊編列預算也是你們的事 你不要在那邊騙人民啊那沒有問題 我們按照大院通過的預算程序我們按照大院通過的預算程序來處理離岸歷史是我一直以來覺得非常厲害的地方但這個地方 你搞不清楚就搞不清楚 |
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你不知道一次給還是分次給我們要了解程序是什麼一定有一定的SOP我們絕對不會欺負我們退職的警察人員沒有再說清楚就是在騙這些人還是你最後要拖給藍白亂三一算還是你要像之前你的習慣我沒錢就沒錢啊你以前不是曾經講過這句話我沒錢就沒錢嘛租屋津貼的時候你就這樣講會不會到時候你就一句話講 |
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最後我想我今天請部長承諾兩件事情我知道你零壓歷史沒關係我非常佩服你這一點我想承諾你兩件事第一個公告追溯補回的SOP我希望你能夠公告對於這些錢誰能領何時算怎麼算怎麼發何時到 |
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誰負責這個事情麻煩你們能夠公告清楚第二個 開放權力能夠這個協助他們能夠對這個名冊的查詢啦我想基層要的是這個啦我跟你講 你不能讓錦霄在第一線流汗然後你們在預算上面就耍賴 又不能這樣我跟你講 真正對於錦霄的感謝不是口號 是帳戶到帳 |
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對他們的尊敬也不是掌聲啦我尊重委員的質詢但是委員千萬不要問錯方向你都是在騙人啦所以我今天我就麻煩你們你連今天告訴我合憲之後是一次給他還是分期給他那就大院通過的程序怎麼處理我們按照程序來處理啊把這件事放心上我真的不相信這是行政立法要一起努力的我跟你講啦 |
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這些人對政府甚至有公法上請求權可以提告的他提告之後怎麼辦國家是要編一堆預算又要去請律師我們尊重好啦沒關係啦你沒有解決到問題啦那我剛剛麻煩你們齁做到的那兩項公告麻煩你們能夠做到協助這些全序部我們會來協調但是前面的部分的SOB還是一樣要尊重大院的立法院的立法程序謝謝謝謝我們感謝吳總統 |