| IVOD_ID |
165119 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165119 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T12:01:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T12:09:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d248f3738a588c64d5d470ab4440ded08e6b4ef68dc504cb3cb268d5fed35f2e155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:01:52 - 12:09:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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還有各位委員有請部長還有消防署國土署部長好這個我們還是要再談這個顏色服應變作業標準作業程序這個部分因為他的成績很低所以他只是一個作業程序 |
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所以這一次的花蓮馬太安溪煙社府潰壩所造成重大的災害所以我們必須要去檢討在院長的施政質詢的時候我也質詢過了現在特別要請這個內政部要去提升這個法律的位階因為這個 |
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標準作業程序他的成績很低所以都是只有林務級甚至他的林管處在處理所以事實上他相關的有很多的規定包括這個除了菸攝浮這個壩體要開挖之外讓他能夠慢慢留不要造成潰壩造成這個傷亡也提到河道要紓俊 |
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然後相關的提防要加固加工都有規定但是因為這個相關的作業程序真的是非常的低所以我的建議就是說在災害防救法第22條裡面有規定為減少災害發生或防止災害擴大應該要實施減災的事項 |
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譬如說災害潛勢危險度 境況模擬與風險評估都有規定了治山防洪及其他國土保安災害防救法都有但是針對厭涉府的部分沒有特別列進去所以我的建議就是災害防救法要增加這個有關厭涉府這樣的一個處理而且 |
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提升為法例位增加一條或是一項然後授權授權這個相關的部會來訂這個法規部長可以嗎 |
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謝謝委員的指教跟委員報告有兩個方向第一個就是災防法修正的時候那農業部呢會把驗色湖呢當成是災防法農業部的主管單位主管負責的單位那這個我們在這個月底的時候會請這個學者專家來提供這份修法的意見但是院長已經有跟農業部提到就是台灣的這個驗色湖未來 |
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在監測或是相關的保育工作還是由農業部來負責這第一個然後第二個有關現在的復原重建方案包括馬太安溪現在所剩下的土石邊坡的問題在我們復原重建方案尤其是行政院公共工程委員會在上一次黨團協商在立法院黨團協商的時候已經有指定是由我們行政院的李孟彥顧問 |
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他現在正在召集包括各方面的專家怎麼樣處理這現在馬太安溪上游晏舍湖的部分怎麼樣做減災跟離災的工程的進度好 這個當然是不是要由農業部你們去評估因為晏舍湖 這個院長已經有這樣子的對外的宣示 因為晏舍湖當然基本上都會在國有林地基本上都會在國有林地這是基本上 如果是在 |
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原住民的保留地那怎麼辦那是不是還是有沒有關係這個我想這個都不會是困難的那個委員非常清楚是就是要有經費行政院的第二億備金怎麼給一給一納入好另外就是消防署就請回座署長請回座那這個法大案馬太安這個部落中繼屋這個部分上次 |
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主委院長去聽起這個我們署長的報告之前聽起你的報告之前我們的鄉親馬太安部落特別提出這個集體中繼屋的訴求我也把這個他們的訴求也發文給內政部了你們應該有收到了所以這個署長對於這樣的一個訴求 |
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目前的進度怎麼樣根文 根文報告啦因為我們其實在他們每一次的開會裡面我們都已經有有我們的同仁都有參與他們的每一次的會議這也是應他們的要求啦所以我們過程當中都會聽他們的最終的訴求而且原民會也都有參與其中 |
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那當然最重要的是第一個鄉親要有我們的族人要有一些共識第二個就是說包含地點包含使用的內容我們希望他們都能夠明確因為畢竟他跟他們的訴求跟一般我們在興建中紀屋的訴求是不同的所以我們也是希望他們能夠討論得更清楚比較知道怎麼樣去協助那現在我知道是他們大概連地點還有需要的這個生活空間 |
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好像還沒有定案但是我們同仁一樣持續參與他們的會議去討論這個署長署長這個部長這個其實會跟這個跟這個第一個上面的霸體什麼時候可以解決第二個這個堤防什麼時候完成加固加高現在都輸進了沒問題了但是加固加高這個部分按照這個 |
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這個經濟部水利署的報告跟院長的報告是明年4月底以前所以這個部分所以要去評估啦因為他們的訴求很重要但是你們要怎麼樣讓他知道說其實不用那麼可怕不用那麼擔心這個要跟誰你們要去聊去跟農業部現在的狀況汐水量 |
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已经没有像之前那么多了嘛然后这个如果还在溃坝以现在的吸水量在溃坝的话现在的提防现在的输菌是不是可以保全这些部落社区都有关系了是都有关系所以这个部分这个要请国土署再辛苦一下最后立法院有做了一个附带结议 |
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附帶決議因為這現在狀況非常的多眼了所以因為這個附帶決議有就是也跟那天跟我們把我們遇到了比這您提到這個還多了對包含昨天又來昨天也有其他委員有問到又是一個新的案例對那但是我們都還是想辦法解決了要解決想辦法解決這個都要解決好謝謝 |