| IVOD_ID |
165116 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165116 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T11:37:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T11:45:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d2db9e75495239b259d470ab4440ded08e6b4ef68dc504cb3cc37aabb78ba47a255ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:03 - 11:45:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝謝謝召委 有給我認識是不是請一下部長好不好請安保丁陳委員好部長 是很像第一次質詢你同事以後啊有一點忘記了 但是你是立法院的前輩沒有沒有 你是前輩我今天跟你談什麼 談人球 |
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我們當然要持續跟中國大陸來溝通啦你跟他怎麼溝通我問過邱主委邱主委跟他沒有聯絡方式如果委員可以幫忙的話一定會非常大的注意那大陸委員會就不要了嘛不能這樣講這個行政程序上面陸委會或者是海基會還是需要知道委員你應該非常清楚嘛我也跟縣長有談過知道大概怎麼樣處理這一塊但是事實上這不能由單方面來做決定 |
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你跟人家講話人家也不理你對不對都是已讀不回啊 都是已讀不回啊那這樣下去怎麼辦 這個人球要陳遠森處理嗎我剛有提到 如果委員可以幫忙處理我們會非常感激我當然可以幫忙啊但是在行政程序上面還是由官方機構來記起會比較好我那天跟邱主委講大陸委員會真的可以不要了現在仇中反中啊內政部做就好啦 |
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國安局做就好啦是不是 待會要幹什麼用我請問你他真的沒有功能你這五個人球怎麼辦要找陳雪生是不是我們跟委員報告這個在卓院長在回應其他立委的說法的時候也要求我們要修改這個入出國移民法的部分對於收容替代的部分如果在 |
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台灣有違規或是違法的時候要不要加重處罰但是比較重要就是您剛所說的怎麼樣讓這個我想不要講人球啦現在這五個喔也服刑完畢了喔所以才叫收容該關的也都關了喔這人在馬祖啊 在移民署倒楣可是關的天數超過嘛沒有啊 署長這些人是自由活動嘛 對不對 |
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對 因為報告委員因為這個部分最近有一個是因為那個勾斷海底電纜的那個也自由活動那個現在是因為它被限制出境然後超過所謂的收容天數所以必須得收容替代我不是講這個我講的是其他五個包括這一個是五個啦那四個在幹什麼 四個那兩個是偷渡的有一個在台灣嘛有一個在台灣的收容所嘛對 |
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因為現在的這個部分最大的問題是因為他沒有相關證件沒有辦法送他回去因為大陸他自己不給他大通證所以我們就送不回去我現在給他弄了一個大通證的一次性的大通證 移民署也沒看過福建特別幫他辦了一個大通證是一次性的 |
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那個宜峻有沒有來 宜峻組長報告委員 您說的那個就是那個勾斷海底電來的因為他現在那個案件他在法院判決啦對 他現在案件還在偵審當中所以還沒有起訴 案子還沒有結所以他也沒辦法走但是大陸的一次性大眾證我已經拿到了對 但是問題是這個會不會影響 有沒有什麼國安法的問題對我這個應該是違反電信電業法啦應該是電信管理法你說我個人的部分嗎這一位偷渡犯啦 |
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我這樣跟他們打電話有沒有通匪啊或是幹什麼的有這個問題嗎 國安局局長沒來嗎沒有啦 這個委員是協助啦是協助嘛 對對對對在你這裡講協助啊在地檢署講就不是協助啦 你知道嗎那問題 事情就大條啦 台灣話是不是這樣講有吼 欸現在已經開一個例啦吼我希望這一個法院判決以後讓他回去 |
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我們這裡會給他辦臨時的出境臨時出境大陸的大通證一次性的給他辦好了已經送過來了我請他交給我們議長原則上如果是有可以回去的證件只要有證件我們都會去做協助這個沒問題吧這個要跟陸委會繼續去協商好 署長你請回那個部長再跟你報告一下 來難得來 |
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美蕙給我多兩分鐘好不好好你請坐來現在金門有那個落地簽馬祖沒有耶金門小山東開放以後金門馬祖開放嘛金門現在人流是一百多萬人我們馬祖大概大陸過來只有兩千個人對所以大陸那邊一直跟我講 |
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希望能夠辦落地簽可以辦落地簽嗎報告委員我們得到的訊息是金門的落地簽還沒有完全同意 |
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沒完全同意你覺得沒有嗎因為我們是跟陸委會一起所以陸委會他在溝通的過程當中如果有的話我們當然會樂觀其他現在的大陸觀光客一個都不准進來你知道這個事嗎除了商務簽證可以進來其他人 |
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來觀光一個都不能放進來報告委員那個觀光社還沒有開放但是那個小三通的部分是有對那健康永續的交流如果沒有健康永續的話沒有講一國兩制沒有講九二共識永遠也健康不起來那大陸人永遠不要來不要來對我們是好事還是壞事 |
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報告委員 健康有序啦然後健康有序也要安全你講的很健康 人家講的不健康啊各說各話 現在又躺在那裡我跟陸委會主委講 你在十年啊也是在繼續健康有序啦是這樣子嗎如果有飛機跟船艦在我們的海峽周遭騷擾的話一點也不健康啊 因為不安全啊人進不來他們大陸人進不了台灣 |
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沒有喔 我所了解的從中國大陸到台灣來不管他是什麼身份這個人數跟疫情前比起來是不差部長我今天提醒你注意一下好不好因為你非常優秀的人啊對不對你在高雄也當過副市長又當過我們同事對不對現在貴為內政部部長你研究一下好不好 |
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看看這個 我們跟陸委會來配合看看陸立謙 你最好不要跟他配合 配合就沒有了行政是一體的 有時候他們會當比較多黑臉好好研究一下好不好 好 謝謝因為那個我後面是賴慧媛時間給我啦不行啦 不行這樣子不行喔 不行好啦好啦 不行啦 好啦好啦 謝謝趙委好 謝謝 |