| IVOD_ID |
165072 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165072 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T11:26:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T11:36:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d2876785adae7d11b4575289a78f60fae5372a46263f60850410110eaefe7530705ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:55 - 11:36:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第12次全體委員會議(事由:邀請外交部部長、國家安全局局長、經濟部次長、大陸委員會副主任委員、行政院經貿談判辦公室副總談判代表報告「川普亞洲行及『川習會』後印太區域經濟、安全情勢對我之影響」,並備質詢。) |
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好 謝謝主席 請下林佳龍部長請部長就備懸抬部長 你是戰龍嗎我是 佳龍如果按照文字應該是好龍啦戰貓 戰龍 |
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我是林佳龍 就是顧名思義 要耐心一點你是溫柔的龍就佳龍我看你現在已經轉化成戰龍了剛才葉元之委員特別提到CNN報導那個報導你竟然跟他講說 這樣是一個認知作戰那他說 欸 這不是CNN報導啊這不是台灣的媒體報導啊你說這就是一個認知作戰好歹CNN是 |
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美國的一個主流媒體雖然川普跟CNN的關係非常差他告這個CNN但是你作為一個外交部長在立法院接受質詢針對這個事情直接指涉CNN是認知作戰就這一個報導本身我覺得這就是CNN報導啊我們希望他更正 |
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CNN過去你可以去要求他更正但是你說他是配合認知作戰這就不妥啊這是不是失言請問一下部長是不是失言CNN過去對台來講也算是友好的啊那媒體容或有一些報導你認為報導的失誤或者相關的評論但是你把CNN現在歸類為說他配合認知作戰 |
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這個報導本身是一個認知錯占的一部分他是不是不小心或者是怎麼樣因為他可以很輕易的查證那也許有疏失但是就整個他配合什麼認知錯占我想我的不是說是哪一個媒體認知錯占是說這背後有一個勢力啊你在這裡就是嚴重的失言啊其實啊 老師說啊不是啊 我覺得你腦筋很不清楚你剛剛還很得意洋洋說策劃 |
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去歐洲訪問非常好你到智庫歐洲的智庫去演講也非常好結果被外媒披露說我們另外一個團去訪問了北約總部那剛才媒體也有問你 請問一下外媒報導是事實嗎 |
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哪一點我們在歐洲的訪問團裡面其中有一團到北約總部訪問因為這前後很多團那我們在做戰略溝通也有一團譬如說我在波蘭所以確實有到北約總部訪問嗎我們不予證實也不予否認所以也就是默認就不予評論部長 |
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我要講說你說對歐洲的關係很重要我們完全同意啊所以我剛才說我們去歐洲訪問外交部長去演講或者我們拓展跟歐洲各國的這個相關的關係對外關係或者經貿合作採購投資相互的往來都非常好但是我想請問一下台海之間難道還不夠危險嗎 |
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世界各國的媒體都報導台灣台海是現在全世界非常危險的地方北約是什麼組織啊北約是經貿組織嗎他是單純的他的那個組織是軍事同盟是對抗俄羅斯的軍事同盟 |
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我想請問一下 我們已經有一個這麼強大的中國的軍事威脅我請問你 你今天要去得罪俄羅斯幹什麼北約組織是一個軍事同盟台灣有能力去跟北約軍事同盟嗎 |
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我們需要一連串去得罪這些核武大國嗎所以我覺得你們腦筋真的不清楚發展外交發展經貿合作我們舉雙手贊成不要去搞那種軍事對抗台灣沒有這種條件去跟人家核武大國去搞軍事對抗你是要透露什麼樣的訊息 |
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你是要透露什麼樣的訊息你覺得台灣的軍事威脅還不夠嗎所以我真的覺得這種都是腦筋不清楚好大喜功然後以為我們現在要提高國防支出3%不夠 5% 10%俄羅斯也來跟我們對抗好嗎 |
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另外請教一下因為這次川習會結束之後因為他們又透露一個訊息川普明年4月要到這個中國訪問那我想請問一下因為之前 |
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我們賴總統一直希望能夠藉由出訪的機會過境美國東岸但是呢一直的說法是因為會與川習會的關係所以美國有一些疑慮所以我們沒有辦法過境這個美國東岸那我想請問一下部長 |
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川習會之後 雖然終於川習會了可是他現在又來一個卡一個川習 就是川普要到美國訪問 中國 對不起 到中國訪問那所以我們在這半年之間我們有可能突破讓賴總統能夠過境美國出訪我們的友邦嗎我講的是東南 |
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報告委員 元首出訪都是我們外交部的重要政務我們也都會持續在評估規劃至於說決定以及對外的說明由總統府他們目前我們沒有什麼訊息可以提供所以繼續規劃中 |
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繼續規劃中當然我們一定會評估嘛因為這個我請問部長因為有川習會的關係所以使得外界都認為說因為當時蔡英文總統非常快速的就過境美國出訪邦交國那麼 |
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那麼現在專行會結束之後以現在的情勢你認為在短期內你可以成功的去規劃你剛剛不講你都策劃嗎那你可以策劃或者規劃然後我們賴總統可以過境美國出訪嗎 |
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元首出訪是外交部重要的政務我們會持續的推動至於說如果有具體的決定或者是相關的安排那會由總統府對外來說明 |
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好 那另外請問一下川習會後你覺得台美關係是變得更好還是可能會有所受影響或變得更壞一點你的評估 我跟委員報告其實我在這裡備詢我就在講台美關係要有信心 |
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我們對於像川習會這些APEC開會我們是要關心但不必過度擔心那現在事後也證明我想很多過去的一些不確定性甚至有一些大家很擔心的地方已經現在很清楚因為沒有談到台灣大家鬆一口氣 |
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不過因為不曉得啦就說我剛剛講說明年四月出訪行程搞不好又會申辯這也說不一定啦那只是說你未來這個川普又出訪的行程那麼可能未來半年我們可能還是處於一個不確定因素比較多的那我想請問一下國際情勢永遠有它不確定的地方對 沒有錯我想請問一下喔在川習會之後因為呢中美兩國的防長也見面了是 |
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我覺得這個對於消除台海之間的一些這個危機其實我認為有利不要有做誤判但是呢美國其實先是叫戰爭部他的戰爭部部長赫格賽斯他發文說他 |
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認為美中關係現在是前所未有的良好那我想請問一下在這樣的一個敘述之下你認為會不會影響到台美關係台灣是不是會受影響報告委員美中關係美台關係可以是平行的所以我們也不認為說美中關係不好就對台灣好那美中關係如果好也可能可以對台灣好那取決於我們台灣跟美國的關係怎麼加強 |
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所以你至少到目前為止你不認為川習會之後或者是赫格塞茲他的發文之後那麼台美關係有受到任何影響 |
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對 我跟委員報告 至少沒有意外另外我們更確定了 包括他們的談話不斷跟我們溝通的也都如原來溝通的內容這樣子發展請問一下 在川習會之後美國有跟我們報告相關的所有我們都有這樣的管道所有的資訊都有掌握有好 謝謝 |