| IVOD_ID |
165071 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165071 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T11:17:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T11:27:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d27f0b3d62325de7bb6e3cb72f09a57cc5372a46263f60850464a5fa53d23552a65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:17:08 - 11:27:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查：
（一）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「公司法第二百三十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員許宇甄等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員吳秉叡等21人擬具「公司法第二百二十二條條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員鄭正鈐等16人擬具「公司法第一百六十條條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員楊瓊瓔等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（六）本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（七）本院委員黃建賓等17人擬具「公司法第二百三十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
（八）本院委員林岱樺等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（九）本院委員張嘉郡等18人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十）本院委員何欣純等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十一）本院委員郭國文等16人擬具「公司法第一百六十五條條文修正草案」案。
（十二）本院委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條之一及第四百四十九條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查：
（一） 本院委員牛煦庭等16人擬具「商業登記法第九條之一及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
三、審查：
（一）本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「能源管理法第七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員蔡其昌等19人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「能源管理法增訂第十九條之二及第二十七條之一條文草案」案。
以上全案於11月5日(星期三)進行合併詢答，11月6日(星期四)處理。【11月5日及6日二天一次會】） |
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主席好首先有請我們龔部長我們再請龔部長這位好今天有一個法案就是要把記帳室納入公司法387條登記代理人是的那我不曉得部長的看法還是我們商業室的看法 |
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对因为我们是认为就是说如果要把经商师纳进来的话因为有一些他们这个考试的这个专业领域啊可能要稍微扩充了跟他的这个所执行的业务可以相称那我们会跟这个考试院嘛 |
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做比較好的溝通讓這個程序比較完備的時候他才有辦法執行這樣的業務看起來 聽起來你不只將把記上市納入公司法387條登記代理人但是博定 我跟你講歐中立法委每一次每一屆都有人來拜託但是實在講有大有小 |
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你怎麼知道中小企業、微企業它剛剛創立的時候找律師的費用特別的高都叫做找記帳室我們自己叫做技巧其實這些人幾十年這樣的訓練磨練也出了很多的人才我公司不大那個小記帳室是真的陪著公司上升的一個最主要的助力啊 |
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大公司大律師大會計師你們就乖乖的其實那些記帳是對中小企業的幫忙是非常的大 |
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我覺得他們觀點一定要分開你大的公司資本的到多少就給律師跟會計師其他記賬室在地方都是AO的不大不小但是現在已經訓練到記賬室的那個事務所也是人才聚集啊不要看穿他們啦那幾十年我們會左右為難 |
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選舉一到的時候他也來拜託他也來拜託我們也拜託他他也拜託我們但是我跟你說記賬室比會計師律師還要多人所以你們這個好好修改你們不敢面對如果你今天打這樣的話表示你不曉得中小企業成長的過程幾乎都是跟記賬室在一起的我希望你們好好考慮一下 |
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市長 你的態度是怎麼樣市長 市長 市長 現在要改了對 我們剛剛已經講了沒有啦 你們要去想啦你們不可以看人家的表明那個計帳是確實幫中長那會計師律師的工會比較大你們就 工會就 |
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那個鮑委員不是這樣其實包括計帳室跟會計師跟我們的互動跟對企業的協助我跟你講的是實際情形好不好所以我們其實是有很認真在考慮這個真的要考慮 |
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你要分牛大概你多少了因为他是陪着中小企业组长那些律师会计师没那么怕命那叫做休息一定的考试他合格以后就可以办理这样的事你要赶快做讲了几十年了我每次左右为难嫌弃欠人家人情谁也不敢得罪但是我把事情讲出来好不好让你们了解好谢谢 |
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國務部長 你當過國話會主委行政院秘書長 現在又經濟部長那我再問你一個問題 請教你一個問題川普當總統還能當習人我現在問的 你不要笑 這個問題很簡單 大家都曉得他們規定大概就是總共八年 這個他們憲法上的規定你覺得他還有下一任嗎 |
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因為他們規定就是八年不是八年 他已經做過一次美國的憲法做連續加起來八年你要改變美國的憲法所以他只能當一日除了修改美國的憲法對不對你真是八極講的這麼八年 大家三天你沒聽說過可以連續做八年 |
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那我為什麼今天問你這個問題他總共一生當中他總共一生當中你八卦也很厲害諾貝爾獎你看總統都講說很多總統都說要他拿諾貝爾獎你說他可以當八年另外一種拍馬屁的方式一流的沒有啦他已經做過四年多現在五年他已經做過了所以他最多還只能再做三年而已 |
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這次APEC在釜山中美的貿易戰你覺得如何 誰贏誰輸中美貿易戰 現在有短暫時間的和解但是它的根源還是存在它的根源存在 現在需不在歷年那我比較 因為你是台灣很重要的人士你覺得第三次世界大戰會不會爆發 |
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不會啦我認為很有可能不會啦所以這次EPICA的會議是大豆跟稀土對著關稅跟晶片的大戰那這次的戰爭是非常慘烈只是短暫的休息那稀土的話對台灣的電子業影響有多大 |
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要跟我說實話喔我為了不問你這個問題我特別打過喔最主要就是磁鐵馬達那個部分比較大對台灣來講台灣用量很小都是買國外的對對對 |
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這也不一定你經營製造也要他的製造端的部分他現在沒有在他這幾項的管制範圍裡面沒有製造端但是我跟你說我看到這樣中美貿易戰從貿易科技 |
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那個軍事一直這樣延伸下來那台灣把中國大陸認為是一個境外敵對勢力萬一他不賣給稀土給台灣你覺得會怎麼樣報告委員就像我們是間接這個我是判斷啦 |
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真的對視的很厲害的話這種情形會產生啊你不要以為不可能啊所以目前為止我們是間接進口嘛大部分從日本跟歐洲還有這個美國來嘛那我們現在開始要自建我們的這個厲害喔如果依照資料你自建產業包括你要經程度最起碼要五年以上所以這一年休戰是大家都在準備啊 |
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是 我們也盡快在準備所以明年也開始啟動了我們自己準備的存量情況是非常不好台灣的電子業這邊整個要是封鎖起來我們真的要啟動我們自己應該準備的一個方案在不過目前來講半導體受的影響是還好是比較沒有受到影響我覺得不怎麼好我看了一個資料它還有一個工業戰史 |
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這個是台灣一定要用晶片的開始製造跟切割少了它就沒有辦法咱們不要自得其樂以為自己很強我告訴你還有現在那個APP已經結束了那台灣的對等關稅談了怎麼樣我還沒有新的訊息 |
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因為這個訊的訊的訊息還是在副院長跟談判辦公室那邊好你當經濟部長都沒有訊息我有參與討論啦 我覺得很緊張這是你經濟部最主要要去關心的問題你都沒有訊息不是那個談判的時間還是談判辦公室要跟對方訊息你大概預計什麼時候談判能完成 |
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大家都在等不然剛剛我們楊強威召委說傳統產業已經現在被折磨了實在沒有什麼訂單開始放無薪假你說AI伺服器這邊比較好這個未來的變化還不曉得最近的無薪假稍微下降了 |
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我告訴你 我們都要注意一點其實啊 台灣我是覺得搖來搖去比較有前途不要靠哪一邊隨時發生的狀況我們都不曉得我們也沒有辦法左右 |
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我會說我們現在好像任人宰割的狀況你自己要了解這樣的狀況如果你讀過整篇看過的時候因為你現在都說得很清楚台灣很強建立台灣人信心其實在幾個產業裡面已經發生了 |
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会有很大的变化台湾过去70年来都是一直在挑战的过程当中那我们中小企业跟传统产业大家的协助之下也一步一步都渡过这个难关所以我们还是我们希望能渡过难关但是这次真的会不一样一定要注意整个产业发展传统产业里面的精密产业一定不能放 |
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非常 |