| IVOD_ID |
165062 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165062 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T10:59:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T11:11:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d2087148c90fd6edcd6e3cb72f09a57cc5372a46263f608504a44ad80bc68501425ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:07 - 11:11:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查:
(一)本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「公司法第二百三十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員許宇甄等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(三)本院委員吳秉叡等21人擬具「公司法第二百二十二條條文修正草案」案。
(四)本院委員鄭正鈐等16人擬具「公司法第一百六十條條文修正草案」案。
(五)本院委員楊瓊瓔等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(六)本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(七)本院委員黃建賓等17人擬具「公司法第二百三十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
(八)本院委員林岱樺等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(九)本院委員張嘉郡等18人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(十)本院委員何欣純等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(十一)本院委員郭國文等16人擬具「公司法第一百六十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十二)本院委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條之一及第四百四十九條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查:
(一) 本院委員牛煦庭等16人擬具「商業登記法第九條之一及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
三、審查:
(一)本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「能源管理法第七條條文修正草案」案。
(三)本院委員蔡其昌等19人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
(四)本院委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
(五)本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「能源管理法增訂第十九條之二及第二十七條之一條文草案」案。
以上全案於11月5日(星期三)進行合併詢答,11月6日(星期四)處理。【11月5日及6日二天一次會】) |
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謝謝主席楊群發言邀請工部長部長部長好首先本席在跟你討論台電盤點核電的議題我們對內是希望我們的產業發展對外我們更希望它比照等於是鞏固國安因為我們現在能源大概 |
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依赖进口的天然气但是如果万一有遭到封锁的时候那这怎么办所以到目前为止在之前的郭部长那政府也告诉我们说核电的部分是采开放式的一个态度开放式的态度到目前为止经济部你的立场是不是也延续郭部长的开放式的态度呢 |
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是是我们这是依法行政依规定来办还是开放性的这个态度因为合法已经修了嘛那我们就按照这个法来进行按照这个法来进行那现在台电呢在10月初也盘点好了送到你经济部那你经济部什么时候会合呢 |
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什麼時候為何院長的總質詢那時候我們說一個月之內一個月之內是什麼時候呢就是昨天是院長答詢嘛就一個月之內就是現在是11月嘛是12月初吧最晚現在是11月初所以你等於是12月初會 |
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會核對 就是核他的現況評估報告這一個部分對對對因為你沒有核定之後他才能夠有下一個動作才能夠去安檢嘛那這個安檢要多久時間呢台電的規劃是這樣就是說這個同意以後他們會啟動一個再運轉的計畫那這個再運轉計畫當然要送到 |
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河岸會那邊去然後也開始啟動他的自主的安全檢查然後這個檢查就要看本席非常清楚因為這個法也是本席所提出所以呢本席要請問那你們預計會多久時間 |
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我刚才提到了这个现在11月初嘛你说的12月初你们要核嘛核才会有下一个动作嘛你如果核可之后他们下一个动作大概会要多久时间下一个动作这个自主安全检查就要看那个跟西屋公司怎么样合作因为这个不是我们自己检查而已要国外的这个团队 |
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當然嘛 因為我們有法可依所以你一定有你的KPI是不是請王總經理說一下你們如果它合了12月初的時候合你們預計會多久時間這個部分要牽涉到剛才部長提到的我們還要有所謂的跟其他的本期清楚 所以請問你的KPI到底 |
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因為經濟部說啊也是開放性的態度嘛針對核電嘛那所以我們就要開始工作啦那你開始工作他核了12月初核你們預估因為多久時間呢 |
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我们现在只是评估有哪一些项目要去做测试至于说每一个项目测试的时间会有多长多短都是需要真正做下去以后才知道它的问题的不是真正做下去这个有世界的经验 |
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那你們應該要設定KPI嘛 對不對你應該對啊 你要很誠實的來回答這個問題嘛因為大家既然是採開放性的態度那當然你們必須要將你們的流程 你的時間點要提出嘛還有就是說你的重點 你要檢核的重點是什麼 |
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對 現在都有在準備都有在準備當中準備什麼 你的重點是什麼就是剛才部長提到的再運轉計畫還有就是那個自主安全檢查這兩個項目好 所以曾董事長也說核二因為它在這個北東電網它是最具供電的價值那核三它是比較符合這個安檢的條件那如果依照董事長所說部長 你們是兩座一起 |
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還是會折衣還是如何呢我們因為這個 |
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启动的时间应该是会并行但是它的程序会不一样因为核二它有多一道手续你现在说的是核二跟核三启动一并来安检这个我们了解因为我们看到AI的算力它是发展要很大的电力这个大家都非常清楚所以因此美国 日本 韩国回答苹果 Google他们都是在发展 |
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都在發展這樣的一個電力所以呢我們看到說重啟核能他是國安的關鍵喔因為剛才本席說了如果一旦遭到這個能源的一個遭到封鎖那這個是非常嚴肅嚴重的議題喔所以呢我們必須要將我們的能源生產跟保存的能力這個是非常的重要對不對那個部長 |
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所以我们依法行政依法行政所以我也希望今天我们听到何二跟何三是要同步那我们也希望台电这个部分跟经济部你们要去盘点那你们要多久时间我们会继续在会议当中再继续讨论 |
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让国人可以安心下来谢谢接下来本席要跟你讨论今天的议题也就是修正本席所提案的公司法第235条之一也就是民定公司分派员工的酬劳的定额比例不得低于同业平均的加薪比例以及我们目的要健全一个薪资分派的机制改善低薪的样态 |
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因為我們的薪資跟全世界來評比我們是低的那既然是認定是低的我們要怎麼樣去協助所有的員工所以本期提出235條之一公司法那同時也提出修正公司法第387條也就是配合實務需求將公司登記的代理人來增列記帳室那提升中小企業營運的效率我們也非常的清楚會計師對我們台灣 |
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的產業他是非常的貢獻濟藏市對於台灣的產業也非常的這個貢獻所以兩者都非常的用心為我們台灣的產業來努力那我們也提出這樣子的方向剛剛本席也聽到部長你的回答你認為在考試的方面必須要怎麼樣精進這是你剛剛的回答所以本席也希望你提出你的方案 |
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提出你的方案因為台灣我們必須聯合合作去創造最大的利基去賺全世界人的錢所以我剛剛也聽到你的這個應對方案我也希望得到你所提出的這個方案要怎麼做最後一個本席修正能源管理法第7條這7條也就是設置能源儲存設備修正為能源這個 |
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儲存能的一個設備我們希望在並往的電力穩定性跟供需平衡所以這個部分你們的還在行政院剛剛你的回答是說還要再兩個月 |
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他說兩個月之內這個能源法現在這麼的重要因為那個是行政院我們沒有辦法幫行政院決定不過我們討論過好幾次應該已經成熟了所以我們預估他不會太久你不能這麼回答你沒有辦法替行政院決定而是本市要請問你既然你們認為這麼重要為什麼到現在還提不出來 |
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立法委員我們已經看到產業界的需求已經提出行政院到底什麼時候會送到這個立法院來呢來討論呢我們盡快跟行政院反映你的盡快是多快因為我們今天已經選答你盡快是多快剛剛署長說是不是給我們一兩個月的時間是我們會跟行政院拜託他盡快因為我們這個 |
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去年預告我們有草案嘛但是因為它牽涉到其他的意見還有它牽涉到電業法 再生電源法跟其他的所以我們可能還需要一些部長您聽到署長的回答去年已經預告去年到現在快多久時間因為它牽涉到好幾個不同法律要同時考慮所以腳步一定要積極因為本席在主持的時候我都認為我們必須要經過充分的討論 |
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這個才能夠真正去制定一個好的方向出來讓產業界讓國人可以安心穩定這個能源所以你們的腳步務必要加強因為去年就已經預告了是不是 |
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趕快加緊腳步去溝通趕快送到立法院來是不是所以最後一個議題本席要跟你討論的也就是說目前為止我們看到9月10月的出口它是四季紅但是我們看到電子支通的部分是佔了72.4%所以我要跟你討論的是傳統中小企業所面臨的困境現在訂單已經急凍 |
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已經做三天 修四天 做三天 修四天不然你知道這個要怎樣嗎一部分的企業的確是這樣的尤其我們的工具機 手工具 機械類別零組件 扣件工具機是比較不好 但是機械業現在已經慢慢回穩了所以我們希望的就是說我們這些產業你要怎麼樣實際去幫助它 |
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而不是你只有看到出口四季紅但是實際上台灣96%都是傳統的中小企業製造業又佔了90%在167家裡頭 對不對所以我們的製造業8.5萬多家那麼它幾乎佔了90%它的勞動力也在這裡啊我們要怎麼樣協助他們 |
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我們要怎麼樣協助他們我們現在提出的方案你轉型我給你補助你再借款我給你利息對不對你現在這麼做可是可是部長我要跟你討論一個實際的問題不然看得到吃不得到啊我現在就已經沒有辦法貸款了我應該要先生存下來才是重點啊 |
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是不是我應該先生存下來啊所以針對於我們為國家這麼重大努力建設貢獻的傳統產業你是不是去考慮將現有的他們所貸款的你的利息怎麼樣協助他們你讓他們可以怎麼樣先存生存下來對不對因為沒有生存下來你會嚴重到我們所有的勞工啊你的就業率又會 |
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這個又會有一個麻煩的事情產生啊對不對 是的所以你去原意好不好讓我們傳統的中小企業尤其製造類別的它能夠先生存下來能夠先生存下來這才是重點嘛你把你的經濟方案給本席我們一起來討論好不好 謝謝 |