| IVOD_ID |
165060 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165060 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T11:03:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T11:10:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d26f4484e16fea9f64d470ab4440ded08e372a46263f608504dab12b64c84673915ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
涂權吉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:03:26 - 11:10:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席那麻煩幫我們請劉世芳部長還有國土署的吳新修署長我們這裡的部長請吳署長杜元豪好 部長那我先今天想說跟你們討論一下有關於我們桃園航空城計畫一個關鍵基礎的建設工程那我大概先說明一下那有一條道路就是我們客運園區到機場的聯絡道路 |
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這條道路全名是桃園市科育園區到機場聯絡道路大園區環區北路到環區東路入口到老街西的新建工程新P工程那這個工程是由我們國土署來負責總經費是7億那國土署出5億市府出2億 |
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那這整個工程設計施工全部是由國土署來做那這個部分署長應該也很知道他在111年的11月就來通車可是要跟部長署長來說明一下他不到半年這整個路面就塌陷 |
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然後而且那整個歸列的非常非常的嚴重那也可以看一下我們的照片喔那後來當地的議員跟市府養工處都有去現場去勘查那當然 |
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我們大概看一下這個時間表他從111年5月工程驗收再到111年11月1號通車又到112年的6月不到半年的時間道路就開始嚴重的損壞 坍塌 下陷那個時候我們國土署自己也知道這個問題有主動召集會刊 |
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也找了當時的立委還有當區的議員那還有台電各個相關單位都去現場那後來我們的前立委何志偉也接受到這個陳情也有辦理這個會刊 |
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後來要求兩個月內提出調查報告那國土署在兩個月以後提出報告但是現在一直到現在114年所有周邊的道路還是持續的破損塌陷那不知道說這段時間我們國土署 |
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針對這些到底有沒有什麼去改善因為他這個道路喔在116年就保固到期那在今年9月我們國土署也有去會勘表示這個問題一直都沒有去改善那馬上保固期就到了到時候保固期到那時間一到沒有改善完成又交給市府那這問題還是沒有改善沒了解跟委員報告啦其實過程就像委員所了解的就是說 |
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我們在112年去調查的時候發現是在之前台電買管線的時候因為我們因為兩旁都是皮糖很多所以我們在道路開挖的時候都有做隔水層後來發現其實是台電在挖管線的時候去挖破了隔水層導致旁邊的水壓上升以後灌進來那我們後來緊急在112年底有做CLSM去把它做一個填補那填補完以後一度以為那個效果有發生但是後來到 |
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今年年初發現即使灌了CLSM以後因為滲水以後底層開始還是持續的軟爛下陷那所以在這個部分我們才在今年九月趕快再召開會議看就根據相關的調查看看能不能再找出比較徹底解決的一個方式 |
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那我想這個我們會盡速把這個其實在112年9月的時候那時候就很明確我有看你們的相關的調查報告很明確就是地下水從台電的人孔湧入然後整個長期它又有地下水又有緊泡的問題就是它兩側的隔水層被挖破了被挖破了所以因為兩旁又是皮塘所以才會有那個水壓 |
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一直衝進來造成這個底層會比較容易軟爛那所以當時才用CLSM去強灌希望把那一個破損的部分把它補起來所以當時也知道問題可是到現在沒改善所以你們今年九月自己又再倒開我想我們保固期前我們還是會提出比較具體的改善措施這個部分我們會來努力那像九月我看這個 |
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會刊的結論也已經出來那現在有沒有左手在進行因為這真的拖太多年了我們北宮分署已經都在左手研擬這一個改善了因為我們也希望改善完以後後續不要再發生這個問題而不是說 |
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就像委員所擔心的我們只會在保固期裡面一直去做不會 我們還是會希望找出比較徹底解決的方法那會不會一直沒有改善然後保固期就到這個我想我們署在做這類的工程我們一定會努力把它負責到那萬一到時候保固期到還沒有改善會不會這樣我們會再提出新的改善工程出來 |
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所以我希望署長因為這個事情已經延宕很多年那從這一條路其實從開始通車沒有幾個月就開始坍塌下陷而且連好天氣喔旁邊整個路面旁邊都是積水然後旁邊連整個外車道都已經開始 |
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所以這個地下水的問題是非常非常的嚴重而且你們當初也明確說就是因為台電挖這個人手孔蓋管線的問題就是把兩旁的隔水層挖破了所以問題找到可是到現在一直沒有改善所以我想那個改善的方式我們還是會檢討啦我們會找到比較徹底的解決方法那我說希望喔那是不是在本週五之前能夠具體回覆我們後面要怎麼去做 |
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我想我們待會回去會趕快把那個改善的報告那如果要跨部會協調也希望那本席也需要出面來幫忙來協調好 感謝委員到時候我們有需要的話還是會請在地的委員因為這已經真的延宕太多年了已經變成所有周邊也就是說我們持續改善但沒有效果效果還是不好而且這要通往機場通往我們國門是一條非常重要的道路這個已經是機場的周邊非常重要的關鍵道路所以 |
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而且有很多 不管國內外的觀光客都會走我覺得這不要給我們我們國門 不要給人家為首詬辯希望部長也幫我們監督因為這個案子真的牽扯太多年所以才會在這邊提出來土委員你講得非常的正確第一個 他這個工程如果還在保固期的話按照公共工程委員會所訂定的這個公家機關招標而且是7億元 |
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我們應該在不管是保固期內或期外應該把道路工程品質徹底的解決那現在委員已經提到說園胸是台電假設園胸台電是正確的話那我們就針對問題來解決問題那希望可以早日完工然後不會說按照委員講的如果你一再去整修出現狀況的話我們真的要從長計議怎麼樣解決地下水滲漏的問題恐怕就是未來工程上面需要面對的難題 |
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對啦 我希望能夠具體改善啦你一直在鋪上面道路 它下面都是地下水我們不要這樣做 我們不是只有鋪上去而已這樣子不行 國家工程的品質不能用這樣的方式來要求好 希望部長跟署長出面來監督把我們這多年的問題能夠做一個具體的改善好 謝謝部長署長 謝謝 |