| IVOD_ID |
165052 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165052 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T09:40:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T09:50:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d29113bb805ef29086d470ab4440ded08e372a46263f608504f1150b2f0eab0c655ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:40:58 - 09:50:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。
【11月5日及6日兩天一次會】） |
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請部長請部長好慢慢來然後警政署長也一起來 警政署長 |
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張委員早部長這個一萬塊快要發了那我記得我上次也有質詢說財政部有編列預算還有什麼這個防詐 |
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現在內政部我們警政署在電視上在什麼都有實際的案例然後讓大家知道什麼是詐騙這個那時候我就這樣一直要求然後你們也已經做了那這個一萬塊我到現在目前為止還沒有看到有任何當然沒有發生沒有實例但是呢已經有詐騙的實例了 |
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我的意思就是說我們在電視上的宣導什麼的這些都沒有預作準備嗎我一個月前我就有質詢了 |
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那你們也說你們會回去處理我不知道處理了怎麼樣如果不知道可以請署長處理我告訴你那個報告委員現在在那個立法院討論的時候其實已經有很多詐騙的網站那這個我們刑事局跟所有地方上面的很大力在打壓這個部分 |
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那最重要是那個委員有多次有提及就是說我們需要顧慮到比較偏鄉或是比較沒有辦法從網路或是電視上面知道說有這個普發現金一萬塊的詐騙的部分所以現在的內政部跟財政部已經邀集了全台灣各地的小公寓包括AM在內的這個廣播電台 |
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要開始做這方面的一個廣播宣導那包括國台客語的部分都會加進去那因為今天才開始要做正式的登錄所以我們跟各小公寓的電台也是今天才會開始那財政部也是在進行當中 |
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所以是今天才會開始因為你需要招標不可能說做就做有做了啦我重點只要這個有有有沒問題未來您還是會聽得到如果你有AM的那個我會特別去聽啊還有客語客語我也聽得懂那再來啦 |
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我們現在2026年新的租屋補助的新制就是一定要合法住宅這點我也完全認同 |
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我也覺得你違章啊你什麼然後去再賺錢我覺得還是必須要有一些處理的部分不過如果在偏鄉啊很多的房子啊他可能啊連登記都沒有登記啊如果在偏鄉他有需要我說的這個是有可能是很多弱勢喔老人喔 |
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他可能他就一個人住在那邊他可能住親戚的房子或什麼的那個很多的偏鄉他房子連登記都沒有登記這個怎麼辦 |
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署長署長要回答之前我再跟張委員補充一下我們剛剛在找的這個小公寓電台的部分有加在一起這個有非六都的小公寓電台有26家然後全台灣小公寓電台大概有2家 |
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已經都開始在處理了可能今天就會上線有就好了我先請署長回應好 署長你看我我對弱勢對重了我是特別的關心像這種情況怎麼處理跟我們報告啦其實因為的確就是說我們一開始一定要先重視建築物安全因為過去這兩年雖然我們有補助但是有一些意外還是有頻傳所以 |
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我們決定不再補助但是你剛剛所提到如果早期是屬於未登記的住宅其實未登記住宅是不算違建啦就早期的未登記就在建築法之前它有一些叫未登記住宅那個是一個但是如果它是沒有就是說它是完全不是屬於未登記住宅是純屬違章的話我想我們會跟地方政府協商就有一些從策略中的這個比較弱勢戶優先來排除啦因為這樣的話會比較妥適啦 |
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我覺得啦我們這個辦法什麼的你在六都在都市都會區裡面我都完全支持但這一點我覺得你們要找出要很明確哪一些範圍內可以就是策略的這個弱勢戶 |
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那個部分就先免除這樣的一個限制你弱勢戶還是要優先照顧弱勢戶要照顧之外弱勢戶很可能在偏鄉就是遇到我這個問題就是我剛剛講弱勢戶的部分先排除這個問題你們要去把它處理好這一塊要很明確也不要變成漏洞了解要把它局限在偏鄉了解不然 |
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你如果又開了一個洞因為您指的大概就非六都的部分非六都大概要人口數比較少的召委的嘉義市裡面有需要嗎 |
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比較少吧我認為你一次也不能開太大的你就是要偏鄉有這種需要的我們再來你不要一次處理你也沒辦法所以跟我們報告就是我會從弱勢先啦弱勢先優先來做這樣的一個排序我們要處理這一塊啦那再來一點時間 |
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那個部長我看到你們這個裡面這個業務報告裡面有就是既有的宗教的建物跟用地的合法化那我們有補助很多縣市去處理這個事情不知道處理的情況如何宗教建物的合法化那我是 既有我先請 |
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謝謝委員關心跟委員報告事實上宗教建築合法其實我們有一個暫行條例你就不要再跟我講那些了那我們現在就現行我們會積極來輔導就是你都市計畫裡面我們會用頭版前導方式然後先把土地解決以後然後飛度部分我們就用特定就變根變木把它讓土地變成特木然後土地解決以後再做建築的一個合法 |
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阿我剛問你阿你這個是方法阿你們有補助有什麼阿目前有沒有什麼進度各位 包括我們現在就是補助一千這個三年補助一千萬給這個地方政府來做一個業務的宣導是 我說真的啦阿你們這個一千萬我就真的覺得既有的寺廟或什麼都在那裡啦還要宣導什麼打一通電話去跟他講就有這個了阿對不對 是 |
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你跟我講一些我現在問你的成績是如何你就回答我有沒有成績就好是跟我們報告那現在這幾年以後現在我們有輔導大概911家人完成了這個2300幣的土地已經轉為一個登記了我跟你講你跟我問你的問題跟你回答我的問題是不一樣的東西我跟你講你是回答我不一樣的東西 |
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感謝委員因為其實大概不管在獨基區跟非都大概都會透過通盤檢討或是有一些變更的作業要點但是其實委員也知道其實過程當中不是那麼順利啦因為有的寺廟他可能早就已經建超過了那所以這個部分我想我們還是會持續在相關的變更裡面去做這樣的一個處理我只有一個啦 |
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很多的廟 很多的寺廟其實是比政府還早就成立了啦很多的寺廟 很多他是因為不懂法令才會這樣這個寺廟他只要不要被私人去拿去挪不是書廟 不是什麼那種的我都覺得政府應該要 |
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盡量讓他合法化這樣才能夠長長久久啦新名也比你更大啦 對不對所以我覺得要朝這個方向你知道我在問什麼啦我知道他回答的不對啦所以沒關係這個我只是要讓你們知道這個要去重視要去處理就好了啦 好不好好 謝謝委員謝謝我們感謝張宏祿委員質詢 |