| IVOD_ID |
165031 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165031 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-05T10:07:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-05T10:21:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0bb7d6ea348ff1d291c9f59a313165cc6e3cb72f09a57cc5462d9096eb7c9b670853a9f02a015eae5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:07:51 - 10:21:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查：
（一）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「公司法第二百三十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員許宇甄等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員吳秉叡等21人擬具「公司法第二百二十二條條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員鄭正鈐等16人擬具「公司法第一百六十條條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員楊瓊瓔等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（六）本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（七）本院委員黃建賓等17人擬具「公司法第二百三十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
（八）本院委員林岱樺等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（九）本院委員張嘉郡等18人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十）本院委員何欣純等16人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十一）本院委員郭國文等16人擬具「公司法第一百六十五條條文修正草案」案。
（十二）本院委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「公司法第三百八十七條之一及第四百四十九條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查：
（一） 本院委員牛煦庭等16人擬具「商業登記法第九條之一及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
三、審查：
（一）本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「能源管理法第七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員蔡其昌等19人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「能源管理法增訂第十九條之二及第二十七條之一條文草案」案。
以上全案於11月5日(星期三)進行合併詢答，11月6日(星期四)處理。【11月5日及6日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請工部長我們再請工部長 |
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我想我们有现在推出城乡在地共好能量的提升计划非常感谢台南有两个重点一个是辅城协一个是台南优秀辅城协是从无到有 |
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因為在整個國內斜的產業我們台南應該是佔最大宗的就是目前還有工廠在生產的否則現在大概都是用進口外銷這樣的一個所謂平台而已可是唯一 |
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有在做實質一個生產製造就是我們比例最多台南所以我們現在輔誠協目前我們也擴大異業結合用我們的社交媒體我們協跟媒體社會做跨產業合作那我要詢問的是 |
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我想我们辅诚协开始记者会然后打出了我们的品牌之后我们重要的是通路 |
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通路很重要 是在我們台灣的通路是不是可以把我們所有的通路做個Q進來讓他們看到我們台南的鋼這個很重要那我們之前是全家福那現在可能明年是DK所以如果是這樣子的話到底我們這個通路可以擴展到什麼程度 |
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有沒有去預計過我們通路現在當然有包括線上的通路也有這個實體的通路那我是不是請那個我們商業署長稍微說明一下那個委員就是俯臣鞋這邊因為在那個年初的時候因為跟刺繡那邊也有相關嘛那鞋子的部分我們在有辦一些展售會我們也主動去有邀請這些鞋業的業者也能夠一起來 |
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那未来辅城协这边我们也会跨局处之间我们再办一些展售活动通路或是线上我们都会一起把它有我必须肯定是从去年到现在我们感受到我们终于有被关心了 |
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在台南說這個椰子是我們非常傳統的產業我們從小的時候我們家裡大家這樣一間房子然後可能一座椰子就吃一個月但是到現在來慢慢的好像整個需求量沒那麼高我們一直在說的我們實在是我們一箱一箱用手工的我們的品質過去我們的椰子 |
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在世界各國 人家說Made in Taiwan大家比一下可是那是多久的時間我們怎麼再重新把品牌製造出來所以很感謝我們有了輔誠鞋這樣的一個依靠那我們現在把它正式記者會公開了好 這個品牌輔誠鞋那我們要問那沒有錯 我們各個 |
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经济部所管辖的相关都有尽力在协助可是这个通路 |
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雖然我們有網路我們有實體可是我們怎麼讓大家能夠更清楚了解富山A就是過去的made in Taiwan這種的公司請一箱台灣A請一箱富山A它可以外公營因為這代表著我們台南的品牌跟台灣的品牌我們要怎麼做 |
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署長有沒有想過那個委員我們這邊可以針對這個協子或是府城協這邊來做一個專案的一個協助輔導那是不是讓我們再跟業者這邊來接洽 |
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其实他们已经都觉得你们有在帮忙了但是我觉得我们希望的是真的让很多的产业继续扎根所以这个通路很重要有这个拼白料我们这个通路很重要然后另外就是说部长你记不记得我们上个礼拜一去到我们台南做对谈的时候我们有讲到说辅导 |
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我想我們現在有一個很重要的智慧科技輔具我們怎麼從這個來延伸AI加上我們的AI因為現在失智越來越多的案例所以我們怎麼讓這個所謂的AI因為我們都是情侶 |
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李佳在失智之前人家的研究可能他會對於他某一個顏色或是他過去的某一個樣態他會特別特別記憶猶新所以我們怎麼讓我們這個所謂的智慧科技輔具如果我們延伸我們用AI輔導然後跟智慧科技輔具跟輔成鞋結合 |
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其實這是一個很好的點是 |
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对不对因为我们现在刚好都在推这个智慧科技辅具那如果我们可以借着这一次大家开始在讨论失智然后我们怎么用科技的一个脉络然后把我们的长者失智的长者能够保护他让他免于跑不见或是我们可以把他找回来 |
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那所以我觉得鞋算是一个很重要而且也是我们可以以前都是用手环的对不对可是手环如果他拿掉了你完全就找不到但是会啊鞋子不会啊而且鞋子它有足迹走到哪里都很清楚 |
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所以我觉得那一天跟你对谈之后我觉得如果我们可以把这个用AI然后导入到我们的传产那么写是一个很好的代表性刚好现在大家都在谈失智这个状态那我们要怎么来协助更多这个案例越来越多那个部长你觉得呢我觉得谢委员提醒我觉得非常棒所以 |
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不仅把AI跟智慧导入之外我们可以把它形成一个专案那顺便也把那个通路也把它一并一个专案辅导就是除了科技导入之外还有怎么样通路把它设计出来那这个专案里面把它一并的把它形成我请军工中心跟来协助来对部长因为传统产业你要个别去找 |
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每一個公司其實有它的困難度你可以先找工會就像你這個我們這個計畫它是以台南市皮革製品工會為主嘛那麼其實我剛提的這個案子你就可以請施策會因為施策會現在都有跟工會在做對接那是不是把金工中心也加進來 |
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然后让AI然后协助他们去做这个转型如果我们可以研发出来说真的这个对于我们在寻找我们万一我们的失智状态的一个案例它其实会有很大的帮助是所以这个部分再拜托了谢谢然后再来就是我们现在地下管线的投资 |
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部長這個我其實我之前已經講過很多次就不論是公營民營包括天然氣管線還有我們的瓦斯管線還有所有相關的這個國營事業的管線我們到底現在有多少整合這些系統到底我們建立了沒從新設管線既有管線過去的管線這個部分呢 |
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来我们请没关系市长你直接回答就是我们新设的管线就会把那个图资就会提供给内政部的国土署那既有的管线我们也是配合就是除了巡检以外我们会配合他每次在换新的时候就会把图资可是问题是换新多久啊 |
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就是说我们会把既有的也已经上传了那趁着换新的时候如果有在做维修的时候再会检查确定既有的你知道吗有些是一二十年了你怎么去寻找这些既有管些的图资我们过去就有图资那只是说我们要确定你们的都不完整我就跟你讲过嘛你连天燃气 |
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天然氣 我們自來水都會去挖到天然氣管線台南就有這個案例啦表示你們的圖資是不完整的嘛應該是說早期的圖資它不是三維的嘛那我們現在會趁著這個檢修的時候慢慢慢慢把它變成立體化的然後再也會上傳市長 我就說有些一二十年了你要怎麼把它變成三維 |
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沒有辦法所以他們現在如果有漢格的時候就挖到了因為他的深度沒有明顯標示所以你根本不清楚說我這個挖下去而且現在都是用淺遁的直接往前所以這個很重要之前就已經說過我們要用一個專案 |
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要求所有的管線系統不只是我們國營事業我們要帶頭我們國營事業從我們的台電自來水甚至我們電信還有天然氣瓦斯要怎麼樣變成一個專案讓他們來提供這些圖資 |
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到底我们之前就已经建议过了所以表示都还没建立吗我刚刚就真委员报告我没有请他来因为我们会配合每次试挖的时候因为第一个我们所有工程要在挖嘴的时候市长我已经说了那是太慢了你试挖那请问一二十年前的这些 |
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這些圖資 我就說台南就發生自來水管去撞到天然氣管那嚴不嚴重 很嚴重啊因為他資料不清楚 深度給的不對 |
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那很嚴重那是剛好有發現如果沒發現他硬依照如果那個當時候在淺頓的這個工程師他沒有經驗的話他硬往前推你知道那時候會發生什麼事嗎所以這很重要起碼那個有極具危險像天然氣管線 |
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我們台南已經有20宗以前的公所要命辦20宗的公所你要先處理啊先要求我們民間業者要先給相關的資料啊我們會把那個比較有危險性的像天然氣管然後像電線的管路我們會先把它建起來是啊我們自己以身作者再來要求民間業者你這個計畫一定要出來然後還有部長我們的 |
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地下管線電線的地下管線電纜的地下管線我說的因為台南這一次總共兩三千支的這個電線桿倒塌我們到底怎麼編列預算這個很重要我們現在是特別預算那工部門的預算怎麼辦你們有思考好了嗎那天行政院長說好未來會思考工部門的預算要來編列那怎麼辦 |
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跟委員報告這個部分的預算是台電在編列不是經濟部在編列那台電編列當然我們也會思考到就是說整體的施工的量 是的由台電編 我告訴你台電到時候就說因為都虧損了所以編不出來所以我說為什麼叫經濟部為什麼上到卓院長就是這個問題 |
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叫你們台電編你們一定編不出來嘛你們說你們都虧損嘛那重點是這個是韌性電纜韌性電纜要怎麼做我們要實質如果沒有倒了兩三千隻可能大家的那個要求性還不高可是這個倒了兩三千隻天公伯已經跟你講了你如果沒注意後面可能倒的越多那如果我們沒有位於籌謀怎麼辦 |
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所以這個我們那個逐步來做啦至於說沒有 你們把計畫發出來到底是你們要編還是經濟部要編好不好 謝謝好 謝謝接下來我們請鄭天才委員鄭天才委員 |