| IVOD_ID |
164969 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164969 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-03T12:21:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-03T12:27:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/64fc785e736c17e9a600aa7780cbdd6b926af2ae94b9c1ca0effb6840739c0ec16e388580db087295ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:21:07 - 12:27:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「近年國軍各項軍事工程落後及軍、商購案延宕原因分析及具體應處作為」，並備質詢。） |
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好 主席謝謝 麻煩請顧部長請顧部長好 部長好 部長本席跟很多委員都一直關心我們軍人待遇的一個部分那今天剛剛鄭天才委員已經先秀出來了6月27號經總統公布在立法院三讀通過的法令並且總統公布也已經生效在6月27號那我想請教一下 |
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我們國防部明年的總預算算是創新高啊那什麼時候國防部的預算編列到行政院來做一個統整您說我們的年度預算嗎是的我們的年度預算已經 特有行政已經向會員提出我知道啊 我說八月的時候行政院公報明年的各部會的預算嘛那我想要問的是說什麼時候我們國防部確認我們國防部的預算跟主計處這邊來做一個確認 |
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報告委員是大概8月初的時候確認8月初 好所以6月27號正式公告的軍人待遇提升到8月初才跟行政院做確認這中間國防部有沒有試著想要提高編列 |
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我想這個整個過程都是依照有沒有試著想要提高編列我想這個都是基於行政議題有沒有試著想要提高編列行政院的政策指導部長本席有問過主席長喔主席長也講就是這個就是本席現在要跟您這邊來就教一些討論的喔 |
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您身為國防部的大家長三軍所有的弟兄都應該要捍衛他們的權益6月27號就已經公布生效了現在行政院院長講是說要釋憲但是國防部有沒有試著想要為軍人來去做爭取 |
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國防部在今年的4月、7月、8月都分別調整了各項的佳績部長不要顧著而言他本席現在在問A就答A這是很基本邏輯ABC我想您過去也在法學學有專精本席尊重您在法學的一個地位那一樣啊依法行政不是最重要的嗎國防部的立場就是說我們6月27號已經公告了國防部連爭取都不敢爭取嗎 |
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我們的立場就是我們不斷的會來提升軍人的待遇那我們114年已經你們不斷的提升軍人的待遇但是本席就想問的是6月27公告之後國防部到底有沒有試圖想要跟組織處來講說立法院已經三讀通過啦 總統已經公告啦那該編的要編啊還是國防部現在也受限行政院行政院一個眼神一個指令你們連編都不敢編 |
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連要求都不敢要求連幫我們國軍弟兄站出來捍衛都不敢捍衛跟委員報告我想國防部就如果說主計處那邊有主計處的考量甚至行政院院長卓龍泰他要扛下來講說他要釋憲那我們去找行政院院長但本席現在想要問的立場是國防部到底有沒有幫我們三軍弟兄來做爭取行政院確實已經提出釋憲了 |
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行政院提出釋憲行政院提出釋憲但重點是我們到底國防部國防部基於行政議題的原則當然要遵從行政院的政策指導所以你現在就是行政院院長在違法亂紀要做違憲的事情明明三讀通過的法令他可以不遵守國防部也要跟著不遵守 |
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我想國防部的立場還是從整體的規劃來不斷的來根據我們現在邊線比較不足的地方我們來提升這個軍人的相關的加緊待遇我想今天的質詢就是把民進黨政府的泡泡給戳破到底誰在幫軍人講話6月27號總統已經公告的法令 |
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259.851 |
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國防部你到八月你才要送出你們部的預算去跟主計處以及行政院來做統整連要求都不敢要求連要求讓行政院打回票都不敢要求部長這樣怎麼領導統一啊 |
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291.578 |
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我想我們還是強調就是說行政院對於國家施政的各項預算分配有一個整體的考量那國防部會尊重部長 等你當到行政院院長的時候再來講國家預算通盤考量但現在你是國防部部長的一天我要麻煩你 要求你你應該要想的是三軍弟兄所有的權益 |
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而且是合法的權益 應得的權利 應當的權利這也是我們在立法院三讀通過的法案什麼時候可以行政部門一個部會不遵守立法院的決議到這種程度而且這件事情照理講我們通過是所有官兵弟兄大家受惠就像我們在爭取譬如說警察條例的時候警政署長至少他不會反彈 |
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339.058 |
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內政部內政部有內政部可能警政署長他不敢講反對我們爭取消防人士的時候消防署長不敢反彈但你現在是國防部長你連幫弟兄喊都不敢喊送上去都不敢送上去你連被拒絕的勇氣都沒有我問過主席長主席長是說沒有送那今天已經看得清楚就是國防部也不敢送 |
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然後就是要等所謂的釋憲但是法令通過之後該依法行政就當依法行政不是嗎我想還是再次強調國防部非常重視軍人的待遇提升那基於行政議題的原則本不尊重行政對於國家施政各項預算的一個整體的思考只有你這句話當作最後結尾大家都在看大家都看得非常清楚 |
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386.619 |
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為軍人弟兄捍衛權益不是嘴巴講 實質做用實質做出來 大家都在看 謝謝我想相關的待遇我們會做一個整體的規劃考量 |