| IVOD_ID |
164880 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164880 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-30T11:35:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-30T11:41:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/480bc0daa4347f005aeb3d74df557495f253141cf72ece13cec708ebf7c68655ec4005c00d4bcaf05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:35:33 - 11:41:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請外交部、經濟部、大陸委員會報告「我國參與2025年度『亞太經濟合作（APEC）經濟領袖會議』的任務及目標」，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家安全局、外交部、大陸委員會、法務部、法務部調查局報告「中共對台進行長臂管轄、跨境鎮壓及我國相關應處」，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席,先請國安局副局長陳副局長陳副局長請其實,瀋伯陽不只一個,我們都是瀋伯陽門 |
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這個中國對這個沈伯陽委員發布這種非常惡意的然後你們國安局的研判他只是言語恫嚇還是有可能有實際的作為譬如說啦這個蕭副總統還沒就任之前在捷克 捷克我們還有住處都可能發生到蓄意的這個衝撞那 |
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他不可能我認為他不可能只是說說語一定有具體的作為譬如說這個像我們如果在國外國會外交或者需要轉機只要到沒有住處的國家是不是會比較風險會比較高一點譬如說我們在香港有沒有住處在香港有沒有住處香港有沒有住處啦沒有 |
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那轉機會不會有風險因為現在香港是一國一制國安局的研判轉機會不會有風險會所以我們都不能去香港轉機對不對好 那如果沒有住處的國家我們外交部沒有住處的國家是風險會比較高一點會不會比較高是比較高我聽不到你的回答 |
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你能不能正面表列比較危險的國家你這邊你的報告裡面這應處作為我覺得這不痛不癢根本好像毫無作為什麼強固國內安全最主要我們在國外怎麼保護我們的人身安全我們透過國際協力有我的力量國安局有沒有相關的具體作為 |
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這部分我們會跟我們有經單位來妥善的來處理來保護我們國人在國外的人身安全那你就是回答太抽象我根本聽不懂你在說什麼好 那請這個外交部林部長謝謝委員委員好 這個我們有駐外管處的部分可能要在通靈外管 |
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特別針對這個中國的這個長臂管轄我們有相關的如果不幸一旦發生比如說被拘留或者轉機的時候被他拘留 |
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我們各外館一定有相關的SOP處置作為目前外交部有沒有相關的這個有 我在去年六月就很重視這個問題我們開過很多會針對這種樣態發生的時候怎麼應處那當然我們也有前面就先溝通嘛因為這涉及到中共要引用的法當地怎麼樣回應除了所謂的引渡法這個以外就是司法互助台還包括他們對一中的解釋 |
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以及其他對於兩邊是不是有共同的刑法對這些部分的一個處置當然因為這不是法律這也涉及到到時候中共可能會施壓萬一發生如果你要讓所有國人包括這個立法會有相關的風險意識你必須要做一些燈號管制像旅遊風險旅遊風險去警戒你要把另外的政治風險也用燈號來顯示 |
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所以我去看這個是紅色哇 這個可能你就是不建議前往政治風險極高這個是一個原則但是因為如果涉及到國家對國家那麼全面性我們當然也會考量到你旅遊風險另外再擴展出來一個政治風險旅遊風險都有每個國家都有旅遊風險的建議嘛 對不對就紅色 藍色對 涉及到人身安全對 那你能不能多加一個政治風險 |
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我們當然會有評估的指標不過就是說怎麼樣反映在我們的警示的燈號這個我們會來持續研究另外15秒鐘就是台韓關係 |
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民間交流非常的暢旺對不對我們大家都知道什麼叫Blackpink大家知道這個領唱會那個交流的票很貴生活啊這個受到韓國文化很深的影響很多人也喜歡到韓國旅遊所以這個部分我們跟韓國的官方的關係國會的交流 政黨的交流或者政府之間的交流比不上台日關係台日關係也不是現在一觸可及經過數十年的累積 |
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我覺得台韓有很多成長的空間現在韓國的國際地緣政治跟地緣經濟跟過去不一樣哪裡不一樣它面臨到北韓的威脅跟我們要面對中國的威脅它的經濟過去比較親中但是現在中國用它的低價傾銷讓韓國的這個產業也深受打擊跟我們台灣產業一樣 |
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所以我們應該要組成一個東亞國家的台日韓經濟安全合作促進會特別是台韓關係我們有很大的成長要戰略這部分再請部長能夠多加重視我們來努力 |