| IVOD_ID |
164869 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164869 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-30T10:50:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-30T11:01:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/480bc0daa4347f007883d1500cd1bee28220506846d94b49cec708ebf7c68655e8601f8ea01c43fd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃珊珊 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:50:36 - 11:01:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、中央銀行、法務部、內政部警政署就「虛擬資產服務法草案及其相關子法修訂暨建立完善監理架構之進程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主委早我想大家都非常關心的虛擬資產那接下來你們要送你們的專法過來那現在申請來做所謂的虛擬資產服務商的相關的登記那也經過你們公告目前是原來的20幾家現在只有9家通過對吧 |
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原來二十幾家剩八家那其中有一家是新申請OK所以是八家那二十五家只剩八家原因是什麼原因很多我想在過去這段時間來看各位看到有些是涉犯一些不法行為有些是因為我們的標準提高他無法無法符合所以一家新的不是原來的然後來申請那他是境外的還是國內的都是境內都是境內是的 |
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我們也查過相關的虛擬資產交易的事實國人大概70%是使用境外的業者所以境外的業者到現在沒有來做相關的申請登記您覺得是什麼原因 |
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我想剛才那個也有委員提到就是台灣的滲透度相對是低這些低滲透度的人呢大部分現在因為我們過去沒有這樣的一個立法所以他必須透過一個境外的交易這也是為什麼說假設我們這個產業未來要發展我們要專法因為大部分的人我們需要他未來是透過一個文化館的管道你覺得境外的人為什麼不來登記 |
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我想境外當然是第一個啦因為他們之前都來登記過一兩年都沒有下文這才是問題嘛主委您來的時候這個問題我也質詢過很多次重點是你今天要舉辦一個考試考試規則要明確內容要清楚審查標準要有一致也就是說我來考試我知道我考了幾分會及格我就會來考試嘛 |
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但是我連來考試我不知道我怎麼考怎麼努力可能都不會及格那我來考試幹嘛我現在的問題是您現在的標準 |
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八家通過好那二十幾家很多有問題沒有通過那目前為止這些標準都很清楚的公告了嗎當然很清楚我們的登記辦法裡面一項一項我只看到一大堆要的文件但是好像沒有說你這一個文件缺了你就怎麼樣然後或者是說資本市足率要多少 |
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食臭資本要多少最低標準有公告嗎我們食臭資本是在專法裡面才會訂定所以專法還沒有登記制還是以洗房為基礎那接下來專法才是以機構管理強化專法裡面就會說清楚了會所以現在等於說你們也不希望人家現在就來登記不是就是說我們不同階段你聽懂我的意思嗎如果我們有為什麼不一次說清楚已經有人在登記了你又要等專法那是怎樣咧 |
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不是主委我的意思是如果你要考試有人在登記然後你又告訴我說要等到專法才能夠寫出來那你現在登記什麼規不是 我們現在登記制也很清楚他可以來申請也都沒有問題對不對但不知道會不會過因為沒有標準審查的東西不是一個就是一個類似一個自動化進去就會出來我的意思是說如果有要登記就把他登記的規則說清楚 |
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我們不希望看到的是金管會不希望人家來登記不會 不會 規則很清楚否則不會有人來申請這是第一 我希望如果我們的規則是公平跟清楚的我希望全部的正當合法的業者都會希望來台灣做登記剛剛講得很好 那個正當合法是 我同意我們希望正當合法的現在是個透明化的政府沒有辦法就是說我們最後 |
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我沒有什麼意見 我只有說 規則公佈清楚不要像上次一樣 進來登記送了半天的件然後不知道為什麼沒有通過這才是大家會疑慮的第二個 我們希望業者來登記申請的當事人應該都很清楚知道啦願意來被你管的 盡量能夠被你管最好啦對我們來說 因為這樣的國人 他才找得到對象他想要被管 就請他好好的來登記 |
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對 沒有錯 那只要符合相關的條件我覺得我們的態度應該是你就是來給我管沒有錯 我們想法跟我一樣不要讓他在境外然後賺我們台灣人這麼多錢可是我們管不到他 這才奇怪嘛但是你就要符合我們的要求啊同意 所以標準 清楚 一致第二個部分是70%的境外業者占了台灣所有大概虛擬資產的我希望這個專法也希望能夠把他們 |
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納到台灣讓我們來好好的監管這才是 接下去我們應該要做的目的而且我們的專法裡面已經講好你是境外的Vespa就可以來申請是 我們是希望他來適用這個法規而不是用法規把他排在外面 |
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不會啦我想說只要符合我們規定我們其實沒有再區分這個接下來是只要它經過營運的話它將來就是定義說目前是虛擬資產是用於支付或投資的目的所以目前這營運方式其實是有點類似銀行的狀況嗎 |
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應該講說他不是金融機構但是我們會類似用金融機構的模式來監管因為他將來草案裡面你也開放借貸也開放移轉這些相關保管這些業務其實有借貸的話就是類同銀行的 |
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確實委員講的沒有錯假設借貸商的部分接下來我們就看他的業務範圍到他比如說槓桿或是他今天比如說今天做如果他有到借貸他可能就必須對消費者有一定的責任這也是為什麼這個開始就要資本氏族的規範 |
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是 所以我就說這個標準趕快訂出來對 我們執法已經在訂定中對業者來說他也要做好準備第二個對民眾來說他也知道說這家業者我去買有保障今天的問題是保障我們希望能夠登記就是希望你是一個好的業者你的相關的規定都符合規定然後我們的消費者有保障同意這是同一批的同一個邏輯 |
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所以接下來就是如果他是已經到收受虛擬資產存款然後又銷售虛擬資產又用虛擬資產來受信來借貸那其實他的管理就很重要萬一萬一萬一有像一些業者如果他自己發生了所謂的財務危機或者是他運作有問題那現在這個專法還沒有通過的專法裡面有怎麼樣去保障之後消費者 |
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對 我想這裡面剛才提到就是說我們在會分級管理不同的業態我們上面有七種業態會根據不同的業態比如說保管商的風險跟比如說借貸商的風險是截然不同的對 這些都要把它訂清楚所以我之前有講過嘛比如說像我們看到 |
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美國總統川普把比特幣變成國家的戰備儲備也就是說他其實就是在因應將來可能發生問題的時候還有一個什麼東西可以來抵抗那一樣的我認為啦這些業者他們現在如果真的狀況你現在的專法看起來只是叫他們自己要做好相關的信託也好或者是自己做好相關的準備 |
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有沒有要求他們做其他的方式就像我們對現在很多我們當初開放電資電資是有基金的我們有信託所以我們就這樣未來也會比照這樣的方式來判你覺得信託就夠了沒有 我們會根據不同那是一個概念信託目前是法幣信託還是虛幣信託 |
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沒有 只有法幣就是它的法幣先因為它主要是跟客戶的資產只有法幣我們現在也沒有虛幣可以信託的狀況我的意思是說我認為類似存保的機制可能現在就要開始考慮了因為委員提醒很多次就有關當一個 |
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不會只有他放個信託就會沒事啦對 機構就會有個退場的問題所以我們的退場機制也是而且將來虛幣的價值可能跟法幣會有很大的落差也就是說他就算去信託了足夠的法幣可是到虛幣那個價值可能已經差了十萬八千里了這種情況下怎麼樣去確保消費者的權益我認為在這個新的專法裡面可能主委要把 |
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他既然他可能有類同銀行的業務那我們就類同銀行的管理的思考但是又可能要維持他一定的所謂的自由度我同意要做一些相關的特別的處理但是一樣要考慮的是消費者將來能夠求償能夠找得到人 |
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那當然因為如果是由金管會納管的話我想大家誠如剛剛委員講說大家還是希望由金管會來管理嘛大家比較有信心所以我希望金管會就是認真的管理啦因為之前的政企局也是蠻辛苦的因為這個東西沒人見過所以壓在他們這邊的確也是一份很大的負擔那既然 |
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既然要接手了我們就希望所有願意在台灣登記落地納管的業者希望他來遵循台灣的法令希望他能夠進來登記的時候我們的遊戲規則是一清二楚的第二個我們不希望說他們還是繼續的在境外然後用跳過各種的方法否則我們就是有本事我們就把他們封鎖不要讓他們連到台灣的網路嗎 |
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不然他只要存在台灣人就去買然後永遠就變成是像原來一樣沒管的狀況既然我們要管他願意來登記我們的規則清楚然後希望所有的人都在台灣落地這樣才能真正保障台灣的消費者也真正能夠確保這個市場是正常運作否則就像剛剛昆城委員說的刑事警察去找他們都找不到這種狀況如果你今天沒有納管會更嚴重啊 |
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那罅管的都可能有問題了不罅管的更找不到人啦規則清楚是我們應該做的啦所以我的意思是我們的法規清楚明確讓業者都能進來如果你不進來我們有我們的處罰或相關的程序我們會讓你們在台灣做不了生意你才有辦法好好管謝謝謝謝委員的建議謝謝好 謝謝謝謝黃珊珊委員接下來我們請王世堅委員 |