| IVOD_ID |
164824 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164824 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T11:45:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T11:55:05+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da51c8e3d5546c282b37198a631d8f132014a1aee410a7bf192f5e656c1fa01693ff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:06 - 11:55:05 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、內政部警政署署長、內政部移民署署長、海洋委員會海巡署署長、農業部部長、財政部關務署署長，就「防堵非洲豬瘟邊境檢疫與查緝機制之檢討與精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查委員徐巧芯等16人擬具「海岸巡防法第十三條條文修正草案」案。
【法律案僅詢答】
【10月29日及30日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席是不是請這個農業部房間署杜署長請杜署長 公務署彭署長好 署長第一個問題請教你就是本來日本跟台灣是為惡的非豬瘟疫區那現在已經台灣已經有豬瘟的這個案例現在唯一的就只有日本是上次我在今天我會質詢日本的經驗可以去學習是 |
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日本的廚餘日本有沒有廚餘是 日本有廚餘是家家戶戶都有廚餘嗎他們還是有產生廚餘廚餘的量廚餘的量沒有台灣多吧沒有你們去了解日本廚餘怎麼去產生因為我每天跟日本人生活我知道日本比較少廚餘他們廚餘不是像我們這個一般的這個方式在處理好 即便有廚餘 |
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這出於那天在經濟委員會他提到說可以讓他變成飼料是液態的還是固態的他有先進的技術是過去我們有沒有這個技術我試著回答因為這是環境部的好就你業管的部分就日本的經驗您知不知道日本他的這個到底怎麼樣把他把這處變成這個飼料 |
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是液態的還是固態的他要記住我們能不能取得是所以他們沒有邊境管制他們依然可以確保是非豬瘟國所以這是我們可以學習的然後部長說我們如果可以取得授權的話我們願意馬上去做對 部長已經交代了就是委員會先執行完後可以的話我們馬上去日本去看是看看他們到底是用什麼方式來變成飼料 |
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那就完全就解決這個問題了嘛一方面可以解決廚藝的問題一方面可以避免這個豬瘟因為它已經失調化失調化就完全沒有病毒了嘛這個有沒有計畫馬上去日本去考察一下我們去看也可以經濟委員會去看也可以 |
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報告委員我們已經有做對日本這個處於其實他們大部分是用剩食飼料化那技術面的話有液態飼料也有乾燥的飼料兩個技術都有在使用這兩個飼料不管液態都能夠 |
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杜絕這個豬瘟的病毒嘛對於有含肉疑慮的原料的話人家已經行之已有年了為什麼我們為什麼不學他們的技術或者取得授權我們要還用最比較這個比較沒有效率的方式做邊際檢查然後要那麼多人力 |
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報告委員台灣也有一場是做把這個剩餘的食品變剩食變成那個固態飼料台灣有五千多場耶只有一場做成乾燥飼料的有一場為什麼沒有辦法全面這可能涉及成本的問題我覺得這部分跟去跟日本學習如果取得授權盡快如果可行的話連評估可行的話盡快跟日本代表處 |
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趕快去日本實際去看一下實際的狀況那我們還會另外再安排那個署長另外再安排是不是經濟委員會也去日本看一下到底是他們怎麼樣把廚餘處理變成私料化這個過程是怎麼樣技術是怎麼樣我們可能要盡快去看一下你們速度不能比立法院慢 |
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你們租代表署有沒有農業部的同僚有有你們趕快去收集資料明天我就去看也可以啊這個防疫如作戰另外你們再逃一逃二你們是委外你們新竹分數到底有沒有同仁在那邊 |
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我報告委員您那天這個質詢以後那就交代桃園分署都要輪流輪班24小時都一定要有監督人員在那裡保健公司固然有受過訓練他專業度沒有比我們房間署的同仁還有如果有什麼有什麼狀況房間署可以馬上處理嘛 |
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而且針對高風險 包括高風險台港澳 港澳中他是強制要檢查一定要檢查除了日本之外 全部一定要檢查他如果檢查出來他有帶豬肉當場丟掉就沒事你們數據來看你們從這個107年到114年 |
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總共還有2619件這2000多件是經過你們的安檢區到海關被攔檢下來嘛對不對你看還有2000多件漏網之魚幹嘛呢手檢區修正一下是手檢區的數量你的手檢區的數量那真正被查法有多少查法900多 |
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基本上這樣你經過首檢區不是只是一個形式而已你要有專業的人去看到底有沒有而且要看得仔細一排十個人在那邊大部分在協助搬運行李通過速度很快我是懷疑到底有沒有人在看 |
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我們可以來檢討這個時期的這個流程跟作業將近2600多件2600多件他就把它丟掉就沒事嘛你說還有900多件是要裁罰的在裁罰是在彭署長那邊又被攔下第二關被攔下來對不對沒有錯嘛在我們這邊應該到那邊就不會重複裁罰 |
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對嘛你們在前第一線沒有裁罰嘛不是我跟委員報告就是這個我們檢查的是旅客帶的手檢的隨身攜帶S光機是針對我們的行李對我知道所以兩個是不一樣的那手檢的部分呢手檢就是剛剛講的2600多件對2600多件之中對嘛那都不會裁罰嘛那你東西拿掉就好裁罰丟掉不是這個怎麼會裁罰呢這個 |
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你那個良福保全再做安全的丟掉丟掉就不用裁罰了嗎不用裁罰那你裁罰900多千是什麼裁罰應該是那個是托運行李還是手提行李S光機確診是S光機是托運行李嘛對不對是是是所以900多千是托運行李是好在第一關你們這個委託的這個保險公司做的這個手提行李的檢查 |
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你們撿出200多件丟掉就沒事嘛是丟掉他不就沒有裁罰的問題是是是所以目前這樣子完全沒有裁罰然後呢這個托運行李你們被罰了這個700多件托運行李嘛 |
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你來你來充飲行李是被罰是全部充飲行李嘛對不對各位報告因為手提行李的話是在桃園機場是經過房間署百分之百手檢確認他沒有帶違規產品才讓他通過 |
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那接下來海關這邊S光機還會再檢查那個就是拖運的行李的部分所以被罰的全部拖運行李嘛那被罰的部分有兩種樣態一種是動物產品一種是植物產品是嘛反正所有被裁罰的都是拖運行李嘛所提行李在你們第一關他看到不管有沒有看到啦他看到只要過了就沒事了嘛對不對 |
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不管有沒有看到因為我們托運行李我們首提行李檢查是針對高風險的那個非洲諸多國家那有些國家像日本像歐美但我都知道我說你們檢查第一個要專業第一個要確實那麼多的每天大概這個六七萬人入境六七萬人入境他的首提行李他可能在機場買一個豬肉產品他就放著那你如果沒有檢查出來那就是你們第一線防疫局的問題 |
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對不對現在採訪都是經過S光機透過這個托運行李看到才採訪對不對跑不掉因為他托運行李嘛那手力行李第一個你們安檢的品質怎麼樣專業怎麼樣把關很重要每天六七萬人入境你如果檢查確實的話好 |
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他就把他拿掉對不對對就不會是被裁罰了對然後還有第二道關卡就是到了那個我們的劉那個什麼檢疫犬的那個地方檢疫犬是第二道有幾隻檢疫犬我目前全國有56隻56隻56隻這個你如果要檢查就要很確實是不能抽檢是 |
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這個防疫的關卡很重要所以我最後建議就是第一線路徑第一關所有的這個手裡行李案件的部分一定要專業而且要確實不能留意形式另外你說有這個犬隻要在第二波第二關這個也要確實如果被犬隻查到怎麼辦 |
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一定罰那個這個只要有肉製產品就當場就開立20萬那假設他不繳就回去了如果犬隻查到代表說你那一關那一關跳過了那一關沒有你們第一關沒有查出來是是我們也在追這種要吻合啦要相相所以啊這個第一關很重要啊署長新竹分屬一定要再加油桃園分屬桃園分屬還是新竹分屬 |
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已經改成叫桃園分數桃園分數 謝謝 |