| IVOD_ID |
16482 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16482 |
| 日期 |
2025-02-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2025020349 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-02-06T14:00:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-02-06T16:51:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:50:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2025-02-06T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院黨團協商（事由：一、研商「第11屆第3會期開議日」相關事宜。二、研商有關行政院針對本院三讀通過修正「公職人員選舉罷免法部分條文」，其中第76條、第79條、第80條及第83條，移請本院覆議案相關事宜。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:00:02 - 16:51:00 |
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那你說笑什麼還是我要照麥克風的方向 |
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時間已到 麻煩請各黨團的幹部打電話通知一下各黨團幹部另外 民進黨柯總召來電話要慢十分鐘跟大家報告一下 |
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熱烈歡迎台灣民眾黨新任幹事長陳昭之委員新年快樂歡迎黃總昭請坐 新年快樂 |
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好 謝謝各位黨團幹部今天是 |
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還算是新年也是大家今天新春團拜在這裡首先希望各位黨團幹部還有各位黨部工作夥伴各位新聞界好朋友祝福大家新年快樂謝謝各位黨鞭我們今天協商的題目有兩我們新任黨鞭跟大家推薦一下現在我們國民黨團的新任書記長是王宏威王書記長首席副書記長是羅志強 |
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羅首席副書記長民進黨團新任的書記長是陳培瑜書記長歡迎您台灣民眾黨團新任的副總召張祺凱張副總召然後陳昭之幹事長熱情歡迎 |
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那我們今天主要討論有兩個題目第一個是我們第三會期的開議日這一點就交給各位黨團幹部我們來共同決定一下我們哪一天來第三會期開議第二個是公職人員選舉罷免法的復議案這一點我們必須要在15天之內完成復議的投票所以這兩件事情媒體那先關門反正直播的吧 |
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對不起,新聞界好朋友,謝謝大家,因為我們有直播好不好有Live,謝謝大家,辛苦大家第二點很重要,我們開一日我們開一日牽扯到常設委員會召委選舉 |
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那我要特別要拜託我們等一下會請人事處來說明我們確定完開一日我們就定下來什麼時間來確定我們長壽委員會的召集委員誕生那這個要等一下另外一點我們還要決定全院委員會審查的時間以及是否邀請行政院院長歷齡立法院來說明這一點這總共兩點要特別要拜託各位黨團幹部現在我們開始請發言 |
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好 柯總召請針對這個未來院會要處理呼籲案的問題我在這裡講我們是民主配合黨河南怎麼講我們怎麼做只要是合宇的安排都合宇但是我要拜託一定要讓院長來備訓這個是總算他的嘛採訪也是他的 |
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我也有三個意向,三個意向那選票法反正,他們不會來嘛,只是投票而已嘛那未來就是,總一算還哪有關係嘛對不對,財務法也還哪有關係所以這兩個要合理的安排,就是這樣至於委員會,那個反正議事部應該會排出來嘛當然原則是這樣 |
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謝謝柯總召簡短有力的發言 謝謝我們接下來請臺灣國民黨團請發言臺灣民眾黨團請準備 |
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院長苦口婆心 江副院長你們辛苦 新春恭喜柯總召 早上盧市長跟江副院長有特別推薦這是東市的新丁瓣 吃了以後可以多子多孫 |
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而且聽說吃了以後 這個火氣完全都消掉了一團火氣等一下我再回答好不好我想你說你是民主配合黨 我們真的是慢慢觀察我非常樂意聽到柯總召突然會變成一個配合黨 |
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我們真的會頒獎給你好不好公債 公債 國家那基本上剛剛我想這個選罷法我給大家做個建議啦好不好因為這個今天是 |
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今天是6號嘛 明天7號 禮拜五嘛然後6日之後下個禮拜二如果可以的話啦 我們2月11號來處理選罷法行政院所提出的復議案是不是我們2月11號來處理 |
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那接著下來就是這個施政總報告的部分因為憲法法定的會期是從2月1號開始一個月內行政院院長必須到立法院來做施政總報告 |
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所以是不是我們在這裡建議是不是2月25號我們做這個卓榮泰卓院長到立法院來施政總報告以及備詢2月25號那對於這個附議案的處理因為柯總統很急每天都在問我 |
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這個選罷這個財劃法跟這個總預算什麼時候他們要提復一而且這個我不曉得現在柯總長一直升官早死早超生啦認不認了沒有沒有關係啦有必要會幫你送金啦不要急啦那個因為啊因為啊這個現在是這樣子啦 |
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因為這 財劃法跟這個總預算基本上要行政院提出來嘛那問題他們還沒有收案嘛收案之後才會送回來嘛那柯總召一直在再三跟我保證我不知道咧 我不知道沒有關係那個 因為柯總召 |
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我先講完好不好所以 |
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這兩個復議案萬一這個如果可以的話因為我不曉得什麼時候可以整理好院方不知道什麼時候整理好 |
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那如果說啦如果說可以在這兩週內可以整理好送出去的話那是不是我們國民黨我們國民黨願意加開院會來加開院會來處理這個才華法還有這個總預算那我相信民眾黨黃總召這邊也學會一下柯總召到時候我們用加開院會的方式來處理那至於是不是要 |
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立法院本院是不是要邀請這個卓榮泰院長針對財化法以及針對總預算本院是否邀請我們是得邀請也可以不邀請那如果是不是得邀請這個卓榮泰院長來立法院提出為什麼行政院提出復議的原因是不是要來跟立法院做說明我想剛剛 |
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這個柯總召有先表達他們希望能夠讓卓榮泰院長來立法院做一個說明我這邊表示啦 我們敬表尊重啦 |
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好不好盡表尊重好不好我們應該來不要急嘛今天大年初九天公升不要急嘛好不好謝謝那個在黃國昌總召發言之前我請議事處高處長簡短二要把我們現在整理總預算情況簡短跟各黨團幹部報告一下應該讓我完畢才報告好不好不是不是黃委員表示以後我們再好的那就請黃總召請發言我們請高處長先準備一下好 |
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我覺得院長已經裁示了就按照院長說的搞不清楚現在會議的主席是誰啊既然院長已經裁示了就請秘書處的先講話嘛現在在院長在主席台上的是院長不是柯建民嗎這個基本的態度規則要有 |
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因為程序上大家覺得有疑問有錯,當然可以提嘛你一定要先表示意見,你沒有意見我們再談後面的,後面的總編審訟馬上發言以不明來指證我,我很清楚的副總長稍微等一下副總長也不知道副總長要講,因為只要大概一分鐘左右,副總長請 |
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跟各位早面報告我們現在是第三會期我們上個會期最後一次院會通過的114年度中央政府總預算案因為它是最後一天院會通過那也表決了好多次那相關的提案內容我們巡禮就是會經過我們議事處整理好草稿我們也會讓八個委員會的專門委員再看一次那個 |
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在那個表決過程當中那些提案的文字有沒有那個不一致的地方那所以他整理需要一些時間那現在才剛開始那個我們這會期才剛開始正式上班那我們已經有把草稿先初步弄好了目前是給八個委員會他們正在看 |
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那今天的院長主持的擴大主管會議我們的財委會的主秘也有說明說他目前也正在跟八個委員會的專門委員在密切溝通請他們務必要仔細看讓這個總預算案將來送去給總統公佈的時候他的相關的文字跟他的數目字不要有出現那種誤差或錯誤的情形所以我們還在整理中那另外上會期也有通過財政收支劃分法 |
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那那個時候那個財政委員會的召集委員陳玉珍召委有請院長交代下來說他要配合總預算案一起送出去給這個總統公佈那因為總預算案現在正在整理中如果有整理好的話 |
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我們幕僚人員就會經過秘書長院長的同意我們就趕快寄去給總統那草要法也順便寄過去那如果將來行政院跟總統認為這個總預算案或者是草要法他們認為必須要依據憲法規定如果真的有提出這個復議案的話他送達到我們立法院來根據憲法規定我們立法院必須在送達15天內針對這一個復議案去進行記名投票表決 |
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那如果大家各黨團有共識說將來如果未來真的有送來的話必須要用加開院會去處理那當然我們都可以寫在裡面就代表各黨團有這樣的一個想法說未來如果有送那我們也可以加開院會來進行處理那目前總預算案跟草稿都還沒送去給總統公佈因為都還在幕僚的整理程式中以上報告好 謝謝我們接下來請黃國昌總召發言柯總召請準備 |
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謝謝院長,其實新的會期希望有新的氣象 |
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臺灣民眾黨黨團我們在進行黨團協商的時候基本上就是尊重院長的意識主持跟意識指揮會希望這個會期開始的黨團協商能夠更有效率讓大家共同來遵守這個意識基本上面的文明跟規則這樣才會比較順利一點否則的話 |
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致意的發言隨便按麥克風破壞會議的進行其實這不是一個文明的國會應該有的表現第二個就有關於復案處理的時程跟開會的日期台灣民眾黨黨團的立場非常簡單我們準備好了全力配合看大家怎麼定台灣民眾黨黨團這邊都沒有意見謝謝黃國昌總的發言柯總要請 |
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針對黃國昌委員每次我來超越學長已經一年了從來都在講說不要插話什麼審訊的問題我怎麼會沒有聽過你講過實質的問題不管是憲法輸送或是委員選擇擴展法案這幾個重大法案不是一番講的內容 |
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剛才你這個話講的,我有什麼插話,你老人很清楚啊你要先表示你的態度,然後當然談總預算嘛什麼時候送嘛,所以現在我要挑戰你,為什麼送嘛這是程序問題嘛,你剛才講一步都不會漏氣來一年以後,你來當議員,實在是這樣,我就發現你都是這樣 |
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怎麼都沒有進步啊找你自由做一切,從來找不到人啊找總統,要搞中共那一家你自己有沒有搞清楚狀況啊第二個,我今天還要請問,我不知道是應該問哪一位第一個 |
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中央政府總預算剛才講的說這個財務法要一起算一起送啊假如廢棋沒有財務法廢棋的時候這兩個為什麼有必然的關係呢財務法是財務法總預算是總預算啊為什麼要一起送你先講個道理給你財務法已經好了嘛那隨時可以送啊我們要了解喔10月20號10月19號我們先佔領主席台 |
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我那時候臉書寫什麼寶宇絕對天光寶宇絕對天光當然20號的時候我們又被錄下來那錄下來是非常慘的所以我們希望說以後大家都按寶宇系就好韓院長我還是要講一個我還以為 |
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從我們一起進來到現在三十二年你有一次看到用這種表決再往前看 老蔣的時代老翼的時代那時候還是要做個程序有句話說民運黨 那個民運黨黨外啊 |
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嚇死人了對不對那個當時老立委大概是兩三百個人我們十幾個所以他還是經過民主程序院長你要想一想 |
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如果中國民主城市可以暫停處理起來,點名,然後用保育表決這不是民主國家,除了共產黨國家那習近平也不會這樣搞習近平大家坐在那裡,他一喊中國,大家都拍手 |
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所以這個是一個很奇特的模式全世界獨創的這點可能院長你要我哭我不開心跟你講很久但是今天雖然不管怎麼樣我說民主金融黨團總召 |
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我要珍惜我們權利,權利是當然的每一次我們話喊請你抄寫上,你從來不理我們排都不排我講文化史是有根有緒的沒有關係我們民主配合黨少數數你就數你算了 |
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副總召怎麼排我們就怎麼來處理我們怎麼來應付而已怎麼來回頭衝閃一門換句話說我跟副總召老朋友他每次我跟他講髒話他都覺得我在騙他 |
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我說你不要懷疑我講真話,你不要騙我,你如果騙我,我都有下一招幫你你永遠逃不出我的魔掌為什麼?因為我了解整個意識程序,法案內容,憲政程序的問題是什麼意思程序是怎樣,這個我是必須很坦白告訴你們你永遠大概找不到第二個人可以跟我批對的才對 |
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我不要笑,你來從醫院回答這件事情,這是不同的環境啦大家共鳴出來好不好那接下來我要問,希望有人能夠回答我們第一題先回答一下,我們再來談第二題好不好為什麼兩個醫院併在一起呢?因為每個總分算都有才華好才對啊所以這是跟度育事件嘛因為你們用這種大的力量,學生保養大家 |
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往實力打有一點 我在電視上看這簡直是殺人現狀 殺人的現形化嘛 |
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緬甸有本則,沙漢沒有本則啊所以這個我先解釋一下百事不得其解我到現在實在不太了解國民黨啊這種可以如此進退時機過百事過這是一個憲政行為既然一個答案就是說是召委說不能送就不能送我們不知道 |
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等下周秘書長就回答一下是哪一個 你是活字典嘛是哪一個規定所以稍微一個人可以超越憲政行為那前提表決過了這個先可以為我示意一下我一樣樣來嘛 |
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來 我先回答為什麼一定要綁在一起 第二個在有時候不送就不送 這是來 不跟進什麼嗎抄信啊 回信回散 我先回答一下好 謝謝 我們民進黨團二輪發言請問國民黨團要不要接著發言 請 |
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我想今天是我們年後新春團拜完第一次朝野協商我想針對剛剛柯建民柯總召剛剛賜教 |
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說這個才化法還有這個總預算什麼時候送出我想剛剛您講得很清楚了這個總預算大概是歷史上第一次啊這個組織總署沒有來協助立法院所以各委員會都計算得非常辛苦多花一點時間我們也向所有立法院的同仁來表達慰勉 |
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也對我們秘書長還有副秘書長 議事處長來表達這個深深的感謝 大家辛苦了因為第一次主計總署完全置之不理要讓立法院自己把總數自己算出來那我們又擔心 我相信很多同仁有在講他這個數字到時候對不起來 |
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哇 這有天大的這個話題可以來做啊我想 總計算通過就是通過了嘛而且這是歷史上的新高我們還是要強調 這歷史上新高的預算也希望呢 賴清德總統能夠好好來執政啦有這麼多這麼多的預算中華民國史上最高的預算我們也希望好好珍惜啦 |
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那另外就是行政院現在其實我們現在討論的都是多出來的事情什麼叫多出來的事情 |
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因為柯總召我們很願意配合你啦所以柯總召剛剛有提到說是不是讓這個卓榮泰院長來到院報告我想國民黨團已經很善意表達我們敬表尊重嘛因為這立法院是得邀請也可以不邀請嘛但我們是敬表尊重對於這個柯總召的提議啊說還是讓卓榮泰院長來做報告說明我們想我們也敬表尊重嘛 |
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那但是現在討論這個議題可能我們如果要談復議案的話可能是限縮在選罷法的部分因為這個部分是行政院已經送到立法院來所以我們朝野協商來談哪一天來處理必須在兩週內依這個法律相關的規定來把它處理完那至於財化法跟 |
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這個總預算的部分我們立法院的同仁都很辛苦的在處理這些事情等到 我想等到正式送出以後 正式送出以後那行政院 行政院接到了這個總預算案或者是財務法案 |
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決定要提復議的時候如果啦如果啦當然此風不可漲啦此風不可漲因為畢竟行政院跟立法院兩個院員互相尊重嘛那我想我們這個都是立法院深讀通過的法案 |
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那既然送到了行政院去 跟他們職長有關比方說財務法也好 或者總預算也好跟行政院的職長有關 他們要來立法院到院報告來說明為什麼自然難行 為什麼提出複議案要來做說明所以剛剛柯總召的期待跟希望 我們也敬表尊重 |
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但是我還是要特別強調一下就是我們這次通過的總預算這個因為柯總召在協商的時候也是想說統三多少趴統三多少趴 |
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其實柯總統也不反對統三嘛那統三多少趴我們立法院也被刪了嘛但立法院被刪我也沒有看到韓院長或是江副院長或是周恩來秘書長表達說我們自然耐心我們立法院明天要關門後天沒有辦法營業了也都沒有聽到這樣的事情 |
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而且我要特別強調這是史上最大的預算所以我們可能今天著重的是在什麼時候請這個卓榮泰院長到立法院來做施政總報告已經接受立法委員 國務委員的總諮詢這是可能我們要討論的明確的日期另外一個就是已經送入立法院的復一案 |
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我們把它定定處理時程我想才是今天我們在討論的實施內容我想把它focus回來把它拉回來好不好我們聚焦在這個部分好不好 謝謝謝謝 我們請台灣民眾黨二人發言針對議程今天定了兩個事情我們沒有進一步要表達意見至於柯建民總召剛剛進行的人身攻擊跟謾罵大過年了我就不回應了 |
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孫悟空 我趕快念三遍 孫悟空 孫悟空好 我們現在大家都二輪發言完 我們休息一下 我們協商 |
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好 謝謝各黨團幹部 |
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謝謝我們麻煩請我們工作同仁把那個門關一下我們開始了好嗎好謝謝各位黨團幹部謝謝等一下第三輪的發言馬上開始開始之前我想先唸一個剛才三個黨團都同意的那台灣民眾黨團不表意見就是說尊重另外兩個黨團的決定所以我們現在訂2月25號 |
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我先口頭 如果大家沒有問題的話先聽一下第一個重點 2月25號開議這是第一個重點那開議的當天呢 就行政院長率同各部會都是一樣 我們就是行李如一當天的質詢 國民黨團推派三位民進黨團推派三位台灣民眾黨團推派一位進行黨團質詢那第二個呢 重點就是各黨團同意在2月11號 |
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我們處理選罷法 復議案這次會議我們審查的時候我們根據剛才大家所討論的我們就不邀請行政院院長練習說明由國民黨團推派三位民眾黨團推派三位台灣民眾黨團推派一位我們進行每位委員發言五分鐘順序就在2月10號星期一中午12點前送議事處會診 |
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第三 反正開會投票的時候 我們跟過去慣例一樣各黨團推派一位當投票的監票員再來 3月7號 星期五開始我們這個新的會期 每週五及週二 視同一致院會國事論壇及臨時提案 我們依照慣例來處理再來 程序委員會 |
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由政黨比例產生我們依照慣例國民黨團九位民進黨團九位台灣民眾黨團推派一位在三月六號之前我們就把名單送至議事處來會長院長對不起我要打岔一下你先聽聽看因為我們剛剛已經好不容易打成共識我們先把這一部分確定完那 |
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剛才集會總召所提的我們又把它列出一條文字化就是說有關中華民國114年度中央政府總預算及財政收支劃分法部分條文如果經過行政院依照憲法徵修條文規定提出復議我們各黨團同意加開院會來處理復議案這我們又把它文字化加了一個第七條現在開始已經發到各位黨團幹部手上 |
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請大家看一下,如果沒有問題我們先簽這一部分,然後再請柯建民總統做第三輪發言好嗎好請柯總統請我以下的發言請大家仔細聽一下我剛才一開始講的時候,我們每次亂炒取任何法案或是任何事情 |
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國民黨總召以及黃光昌總召都在講程序問題,不然講說不能插話你以為只有這麼簡單嗎?你說因為有些問題不是這樣簡單的回答所以我今天要先講一個事實 |
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我為什麼說要把這個問題釐清我一直說你們不管怎麼樣都是違憲的我對你們的挑釁是非常嚴厲的剛才一開始的時候副總召就講說盧俊穎講說以前我是溫養供給量是沒有錯但是這一次整個八八北是一個國家生死存亡的關鍵 |
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這民意已經展現這麼清楚了你們不要一直以為像這次總統選舉一樣是六四盤還在自己麻醉自己 自己在騙自己而且上節目大夸七口所以你們藍金都是一票一票來的 非常有組織是非常鐵的 |
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所以這個大罵別鬧你們一定贏所以老柯都在講話所以我這個一個人在指揮我現在就告訴各位大家要了解民意的歧視那民意在總統選以前我們知道生長不夠慢很清楚大概就60盤民運黨大概有20% |
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這個一般人只要有嘗試都知道但是我要講的就是說我身為執政黨總召的時候我在選舉的時候一直呼籲大家要國會補國會沒有過半的國會是非常難走下去的阿美時期超小海大所以超小海大的執政黨是非常困難的 |
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但是我們過去從小到困難點的時候,我們還總共走出來,那時候差20票,阿聯資教院兩屆我們都差20票,但是那時候的立法院院長是王金平院長, |
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那時候我面對的對手是一個威廉體制儀器下的國民黨但是今...此時此刻情勢完全不一樣我面對的是一個海運院長 |
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海洋黨過去在委員會的時間長短不講他還從來沒有參加過,沒有當過黨編沒有上席當過這議事規則等等我們不是很清楚於是就發明一個超過共產黨的這種先任體制 |
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老公至少習近平講話當然還拍手在中國女兒是佔領主義才能點名表決反正是他有不同意見的往實力打這就是什麼殺人犯啊這將來我不知道蔣官看不到嗎 |
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這種銀布是在全世界播放所有人都知道我不相信剪刀官要剪刀官看不到剪刀官用草原證據就可以辦的這40百個政府眼前這麼多人受傷被討債沈博洋和邱志偉那差一點就生命危險了 |
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所以我要來回想這段時間,那我今天要講的是說,我對國民黨的批判是毫不留情的,因為啦,這是國家生死存活的關鍵嘛,這個不是成名時期的課長招,成名時期的課長招學習也出來,這完全講道理啦。 |
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其實寫是非常溫文儒雅的寫文書都是這樣講道理的寫雜文的話也是老文青的這是女風一定帶感情的這是自己內心想得到所以今天要重新重申一次我為什麼要這樣講呢當然一書變成藍白紅的手要張範吧 |
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也就是說所有的污衊、抹黑,除了我旁邊的胡適洋也用身為來搞我們兩個人我還有王一川用身為用我的聲音罵我們民進黨當然所有招數紅藍白都出來了那現在還有什麼招數呢當然又看抹黑以外,抹黑的人格 |
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季晓军 |
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不是家,還有所有的柯董事長,我們先確定開一日好不好?等一下你不要笑,這是非常嚴肅的事情,等一下你先要靜一下我們現在先掌握...能夠罵人,我是找起事案件,以及國安事件那是一作一法,我現在先掌握在先誰罵過我的,這邊的...我們也很慘,我們運動也不會罵,待會要整理 |
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我告訴你情緒,好,不要笑因為在這種環境底下所有的中時連合社媒體天天罵我一個人,所以我今天每天都是孤立罵我那我說這些人罵我是在幫民進黨,因為你沒有道理亂罵結果人家越看越清楚,這個國民黨亂搞 |
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國民黨這次連連杜代表執法就是一個職業騙全部顛倒市會國民黨講的話,國務卿也拿去講我不會說你制裁權的問題啦因為電話公 |
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說公共產品,你也把他記起來,怎麼大家拍得這麼多?所以在這時候我要告訴各位一件事情,我為什麼在今天要把這話講清楚?兩天前,就是禮拜二晚上8點41分,因為我們三黨幹部出現了, |
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一個恐惡性直接寫到郭毓勤郭毓勤議會的農業事楊岩想暗殺我前家大小胞胎我家所有的兒子媳婦所有女兒孫子全部公開出來楊岩暗殺這是中共最後的手段我知道另外一個手段是什麼另外一個手段就是封鎖領出的流量 |
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讓我的臉書悶悶死了我現在就要面對這個問題來講剛才休息的時間韓院長我說我去抽菸不是我打給其他幾個局長周祐偉,祐偉應該認識嘛我叫我助理去報案我是在處理這個事情 |
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所以我今天要談的事是說我們要在國會上是要論證嘛你要告訴我一個道理嘛為了採訪法你們打成這樣那採訪法又不敢說出來因為要總議院綁在一起這你也總要適宜嘛那我知道什麼問題我真的罵你啊你如果講這個道理我就有口紅色啊你沒人敢來面對我 |
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南京、南北所有包括學者專家沒有人敢來面對我甚至講到憲法輸送法因為南京的所有憲法學者從陳昌文一將孫永青包括李建柱我公開點名也不敢跟我對陣這是一個國家在所有國家一定要在憲政行為來行使 |
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那你們國會過半以後你們就開始設計來如何把民進黨全部罷掉嘛那你現在要罷掉的人我們當然反罷免嘛這老公這老公所以喔這設計的生命安全我可以不講話嗎這生命安全我要講這個時候這個好話你們要暗騷喔這個好話 |
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你...我講話你...等我講完你再講好不好這麼兇演藝術的事情人家要...要暗殺我錢家然後你有問題...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯...柯... |
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你們就搞這一套嘛院長 |
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我說話時間請幫我維持我會親自跟警政署長講不是 我說王威 王威講話這只要黃國昌負責了不是 講話跟黃國昌無關我講話我負責 跟黃國昌無關好嗎我拜託你給我完整的發言時間可以嗎他可以這樣插話嗎這涉及本黨以及我個人的生命安全我可以你們的服務準算喔 |
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法院長,你還剩長嗎?我會親自跟警政署找我已經一變了,周圍我也很熟,我跑步我都很熟該怎樣的程序我自己會找我的安全,我靠自己保護不是一個口碑而不死的法案對我法案不必,我已經報案了嘛院長,我現在開始講請你讓我一個完整的發言時間,這樣總可以吧 |
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所以我一直說 因為整天就是到現在都會說程序問題 或是說什麼差別我們今天來 直球對決嘛你有辦法說服我的時候 當然我就閉嘴嘛那請問 我聯席會問很多問題我剛才問的問題 這個事到底 民主黨應該回答嘛民主黨先回答 為什麼這兩個人要綁在一起你是 |
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你不有六寶錢書嗎你再講清楚吧我一個月回答說發言完為什麼兩個一百五千三總會期有必要關聯性嗎假如總運算廢棄沒有裁判法的時候那怎麼辦那為什麼你打架打得這種程度可以說所以說因為招委說不送就不送 |
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你是公務員,那我到京廠那邊捲起你們是不是這樣,這個是...我也可以反映給你啊不然公務啊你怎麼會在肆意讓我了解嘛 |
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你講完嗎?你全部講完最關鍵開一日25號你同意不同嗎?那我都沒有問題誠信是問題要排的小時候我有一些質疑吧你報告連夏報告什麼 |
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包括我跟曹偉常什麼時候選舉那期主席自己安排這個我都會挑戰你的你跟維也紐約人組織法你跟曹偉常去定什麼時候所以我現在講你是你那個什麼什麼什麼什麼什麼那從來我都認為你就是一個極端極端自由自以為是的非常深藍和漢偉文本正全的人 |
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包括在旁邊的醫護處醫護處長 高百強我一直在臉書罵你們 一直在討論你們 開啟我的討論你從來沒有給我回過一句話你再不回我一句話對不起我都懷疑你 我想說我服務啊所以請示意這部分嘛 一樣一樣來嘛憂文啟祥 |
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柯先生您發言是全部結束了還是告一段落不是 一個方面一個接一個嘛我們先回答這個不然怎麼講下去如果您同意二十五號開議的話能不能先簽字你自己的錯 我100%簽字你先擺個理由我也可以接受你擺個理由這是只有中美市長決定的還是說一個招欸你這樣有個答案嘛 |
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照理說不能送就不能送出去,你把理由就接受吧還是經過周秘書市長說欲說肯的,你們說出去沒關係這是答案嘛,你參責而已,你自己講看看還是院長交代的所有的責任都為跟他們無關你講啊,那我問你啦 |
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有問題找我這個我們先把這個確定開一日之後我們再來討論您講的問題這樣好嗎 |
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我再次建議因為我們都互相相信委員黨團幹部嘛今天這樣簽字完畢以後我們先確定我們討論兩個重點都定下來後面其他何來兩個重點 |
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一個我們確定了開一日嘛就是2月25號開市第二個我們就確定了2月11號我們舉行選罷法我們的復議案投票那這兩個我們先確定嘛之後您再有其他的問題你再提出來我們非常樂意來問一下我們講個低的好不好不管我問的問題不管你們什麼答案有的答案亂掰的也可以你從那裡給我一個答案我一定簽的嘛 |
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市長你先休息 他們黨團先簽 簽完再請您簽簽完之後你再繼續發言 好不好嗯嗯 簽完跑掉了市長我怎麼會跑 我怎麼會跑這些委員我們都只能說大家規勸嘛 對不對 好反客黨團幹部請先簽字 我們確定 |
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沒有沒有 稍等 我已經看到張祺凱舉手了 之前 好不好 稍微等一下那不然各黨人我們先確定2月25號開議然後2月11日舉行復議案投票 |
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院長第一個2月25號開議第二個2月11號院長你當立法院院長嘛我們立法院報導日是總說2月3號吧那2月3號的時候你們突然不見我一直半天找你學習院長 |
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因為那時候開始算那時候開始算了嘛所以請看立法院組織法吧 各委員組織法嘛所以這個問題就在這裡嘛2月21日開一日那2月21日什麼會嘛這應該就很簡單嘛 |
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換胡適 換比較好張七開委員發言之前我們先請民進黨黨團幹部先簽字我們先確定這個 |
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呃 張子儀來 張子儀你這個郭文貴要跟我們玩啊 什麼車馬你來講你現在講給我聽看看嘛你說車馬你來講 等一下我要逼你講齁那你怎麼回答 |
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吳思瑤幹事長的意思是說他針對要簽的這個內容他要提出一個會議詢問好不好我們先請吳思瑤幹事長簡單請詢問謝謝院長我想我們第一次朝野協商就有很幾個具體的議案我們當然希望方向明確大家有共識但是切莫是我們針對這樣一個協商結論總共有 |
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7點我們一些問題質疑讓我們釐清之後再簽字我想這是起碼的沒有說先簽字再提問沒有這樣OK那我是具體針對大方向2月11進行選發法的附議案當然時程上大家有共識OK225進行施政統治這個時程上也OK但是因為有7點結論有一些細節跟法律上的解釋上我們需要再釐清一下 |
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因為法定立法院每一個會期上會期就是2月1號到15號開始資金要報到然後開議日是用協商來決定這個沒有錯但是呢這一次比較特別的如果今天的協商第一點我們定各黨團同意2月25日星期二為開議日的話那我想問一下那第二點的這一個 |
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一個2月11號處理選罷法的復議案的這個會議的定義是什麼因為照正常的議程來講照常正常的議程來講2月3號這個會期是2月3號報到嘛它已經是正常的會期開始了中秘書網就應當知道我在說什麼所以說要定義這個會議的 |
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因為這會跟第四點因為你要排除因為訂定225是總諮詢然後呢交委的選舉的日期你之所以有第四點是因為你要排除各委員會組織法跟交委的選舉相關的規定跟辦法 |
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我想立法院還是要嚴謹的我們自己的內規的應用我們不代表我的發問不代表我對於這個協商的結論實施安排有意見只是說我們要嚴謹把它定義清楚那又如同剛剛柯總召在垂詢提問的事情其實是具體跟第七點 |
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今天的協商結論所要落的第七點就是有關總預算案以及裁劃法未來如果提復議的話各黨團同意用加開院會來處理針對這一點因為已經很清楚的把A加B裁劃法plus總預算是把它放在一起不可切割的這個處置 |
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這個本身柯總商提出了他的一些疑問這包括也是本席的疑問就是總預算是總預算預算會期審完總預算那立法院就要努力的把審查報告送出 |
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那剛剛呢副總長提到說現在需要一些時間計算我們也願意讓我們立法院的財政委員會及各委員會同仁要試算精準給予時間這沒有問題只是說這一次遲到現在還沒有辦法試算清楚那當然是我們在審議的過程當中那有一些相對提案的粗糙或者是通刪再加上個案刪減再加上總主決議的一些 |
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交鄉作業的影響之下以至於他比較難以計算出精準的數字但我是希望說依我們的憲法規定立法院就是審議預算行政院是邊議邊列預算那剛剛副總我都要提到說因為主計總署不幫忙 |
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所以讓立法院算不出來這個我一定要講清楚好那才化法的這個部分剛剛一直垂詢您回答的對才化法垂詢的這個問題是哪一個規定可以依據一個教委 |
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一個召委的決定就可以押注這個問題你們沒有回答柯總召剛剛一直在問的柯總召稍微等一下柯總召稍微等一下柯總召稍微等一下柯總召稍微等一下 |
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那剛才吳世耀講的這個是要值得我們議事處來向你特別還各各黨團幹部來報告一下高處長你針對那個第四項跟吳世耀委員來報告一下那那個第二項跟第四項那比較簡單了 |
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跟那個委員報告一下我們的協商草稿的部分大家是2.25要當作開議日嘛但是因為要處理一個選罷法的復議案大家又這個草稿上面寫說2月11號就變成說我們2月11號先開一個會議處理復議案然後2.25開議又來處理行政院長的私人報告那剛剛委員去詢問說因為我們開的理論上是第一天才叫做開議日那我們怎麼會2月11日開會然後又說2.25是開議 |
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那這個都因為涉及到說開日是根據我們的召委選舉日都是依照開日來算那個日程由人事處來排因此我們在第四點的部分因為配合大家各黨團的意思我們只能在第四點去設計成說有關於召委的選舉日我們就不受那一個委員會組織法還有本院組織法這些相關規定就不以那個2月11日來作為開日然後去訂這個日程出來這個日程其實就是跟著2.25來的 |
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那這個只要大家有共識,確實是可以這樣寫的因為畢竟這是國會自律嘛那如果說大家不要,當然這個草稿就大家不會簽,只是以上報告這樣院長,我要針對他的問題接下來請張祺凱委員發言王宏威委員請準備現在是大過年齁我希望今天大家都講一些好話啦因為我們的習俗是今天如果拍週 |
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或者在罵人的話 一整年運氣都不會好你不要講幹話啦 我跟你講啦老朋友柯總召 你剛剛我們的黃總召已經講了大人不計算過 今天不跟你計較所以你老朋友一直在罵人 這樣真的不好 我提醒我提醒 沒有沒有 老朋友我直接回答你 你講幹話我今年希望有多一點好不好我真的會跟你們客氣啦好不好 不要 不要講客不客氣的問題我今天生命危險欸 |
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你行事警察要幫忙我們好好去追我們希望這種事情不要發生你們哪有幫忙你們如果沒有事的話就去報告人家人身攻擊好不好你每天生氣被人家說什麼搞我什麼不知道你那部分我們會幫你聲援不要發生任何事情第二個剛剛我剛剛講了大人不計小人過今天我們不要誰是大人哪個大人黃大人 |
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總召 柯總召 今天都講些好話啦今天有好運 來來來 最重要的 來來今天我們希望 一定是有效率的嘛所以我呼籲剛剛的我記得主席跟院長都講得很好好運的時間點定下來 |
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第二個,復議案什麼時間要處理,這是重中之重,今天趕快把它處理好要有效率,另外一行你對於財務法,你希望有人說服你要適宜,你聽我講好不好你只要看看周恩來,周秘書長,就你說的活字典,他寫的書 |
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另外 包括以前我當記者寫的 都寫過這個新聞聽我講 聽我講 |
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有解答的你只要看看周恩來周明爽的書他三本書裡面都有寫了很多有很多潛力的來聽我講嘛你不是要希望 |
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是向市議嗎市議員 我要講為什麼一個糟的也可以說越南表情況越糟 說不送就可以不送因為這個在立法院有非常多的前瞭不只立法院八十幾年你現在是張其凱的法院之前啦柯總長 來這個都是我寫過新聞沒關係啦 沒什麼錯啦沒什麼錯啦 你有說來來來 那時候已經在立法院了你記不記得林鴻忠那時候有一個案子叫做 |
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毒品危害防治條例那個條例那時候 本來過年要公佈了嘛那時候法務部長廖正豪啊廖正豪來了立法院一個函他說法務部還有一些相關的法案他希望等一併處理完以後有印象嘛 對不對所以從這個個案之後 |
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以後 執審的 執審的 或者是行政部門有這樣的要求有很多的先例 這只是第一個案子喔後來有很多先例嘛所以當然 這是財化法 利益真實到位他可以要求 所以你看你自己以前去協商過有先例的人 你自己拿司徒砸自己的腳對不對 有沒有前例立法院裡面 去看看中央人權法書裡面太多這種個案啊 |
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太多的這種個案啊所以沒解答當然有解答你以前是很和氣的有智慧在學校你都知道什麼幹話什麼幹話你不是要答案嗎這是不是答案 |
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那麼多的潛力擺在你面前你以前的柯總長你都用這個方法去解決了很多問題為什麼今天這個方法不行為什麼今天不行我來解答吧我提醒一下柯總長腳剛剛開過刀不可以搬石頭砸腳好不好 我們休息五分鐘有有 柯總長老大一定看清楚他這個想到以前他小腔的狀況有以前的潛力你原來想說人命大附身的問題啊 |
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馬上解決了 那是行政院來韓說我們還有一個配套後來很多個案都是有點...沒有沒有 從來沒有一個遭遺可以這樣解決的你那一次本來就是用權力就可以解決嘛根本亂講一通從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 從來沒有 |
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你剛剛講的毒品的那個是行政院你說的案例我們都查過 狀況就是不一樣 |
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不要把自己的眼遮起來了 |
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兩位總召 |
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民進黨黨團的工作夥伴可不可以通知一下我們民進黨黨團的幹部趕快來開會好嗎 |
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好 謝謝柯總召吳幹長請坐都已經簽了 全部都簽了 然後 |
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剛剛有講過接下來是王宏威發言你等一下再等一下好嗎因為王宏威舉手好久了是我還是他王宏威張啟凱後面是王宏威好不好好請王宏威委員請發言好謝謝謝謝院長因為現在還在 |
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這個過年期間大家新年快樂我想首先因為剛才柯總召有特別提到就是包含總召他的個人人身安全還有家人的人身安全都被恐嚇我想這點是真的是姿勢體大因為長期以來其實我們很多政治人物包含我自己 |
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也曾經遭受過人身安全的恐嚇包含對我個人、對我的團隊、對我的家人所以我想大家都深惡痛絕所以我們絕對第一個絕對不支持任何的暴力恐嚇行為我們也絕對譴責任何的暴力恐嚇行為所以在這一點無庸置疑 |
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好 那另外我們回到今天我們的協商其實我想這是在我們2月3號報到之後我們由院長來召集朝野第一次協商那 |
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像現在的整個的協商結論那基本上其實各黨團都沒有太大的意見而且現在最新的版本也根據吳思堯幹事長他所做的一個建議來做修正那我想大家應該就是就我們包含11號處理復一案以及我們在25號 |
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來做這個行政院長的施政報告以及總質詢我想大家沒有什麼特別意見那麼也希望在這樣的一個大家的協商過程裡面大家達成協議讓我們議事更為順暢那 |
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這也是今天我們包含我們院長還有副院長今天在早上主持的立法院團拜我們都希望我們的這個協商還有我們的議事都能夠順利順暢那另外的部分呢就是我們在這邊要說明一下的就是 |
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其實今天主要是針對我們的開議時間以及選罷法的復議案我們處理的時間但是因為之前包含柯總召還有吳思堯幹事長都有一再提到有關於總預算的部分 |
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那麼剛才四邀幹事長也特別提到就是因為現在立法院呢希望能夠更仔細一點能夠做更仔細的確認再把我們的報告書然後送出去我想剛才吳四邀幹事長也同意那我們真的覺得 |
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因為我們是在上個會期21號我們完成之後事實上離年假的時間只有短短的三天到現在2月3號開工之後現在有四天 |
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所以你現在看起來好像這個時間很長那我想我也應該幫我們所有的立院包含我們的議事人員還有包含我們財委會等人員能夠說一句話因為到現在看其實加起來大概是七天的時間那這七天的過程裡面我目前所了解的 |
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就是因為過去的慣例譬如說像我們通案刪除通案刪除這是每一年總預算都有通案處理而通案處理的這個最後確認的金額呢大概每一次歷屆就是歷屆的慣例 |
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也都是由行政院的主計總署來協助來協助把它算出比較精確的金額提供給立法院那我所了解一直到今天為止事實上行政院的主計總署還沒有提供相關的詳細的數字那當然 |
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那麼就讓我們立法院的同仁他們可能要花更多一點的時間把這些數字把它算好我們剛剛講就是說我們不希望這個是匆匆忙忙的送出去而且呢也特別要說明啊為什麼立法院這邊我們也支持能夠更謹慎跟詳細的來整理報告書因為否則的話我們現在有關總預算大家也可以看到謠言滿天飛啊 |
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謠言滿天飛比如說我今天就要特別澄清特別澄清因為我有發現這也是媒體告訴我因為說實在啊大家沒有辦法一直去瀏覽各位的臉書啦 |
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那麼就如同柯總召可能質疑說他臉書有這麼多的質疑怎麼都沒有回答他呢可是我們必須說這個臉書社群平台是跟我們很多的支持者或者跟外界的一個溝通的平台但它終究不是一個有實質法律效率的一個公文或者是像我們這個朝野協商 |
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那因為我後來發現呢我們這個也是我們新任的我們這個民進黨今年新任的應該是叫做書記長嘛書記長我們陳培書記長那在他的臉書裡面其實有了非常錯誤的一個資訊就是呢說我們立法院現在的總預算的報告呢事實上好像變成一個遮羞布啊說裡面呢已經沒有這個提案的 |
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提案人的名單也沒有提案的這個說明但是呢我現在知道就是說因為現在剛才我們那個處長也有報告嘛現在把相關的這個報告然後給包含給我們財委會包含給應該是給八個委員會 |
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那麼大家再去做比對的這個過程裡面事實上這個格式跟歷次今天當然是今年是我們韓國瑜當院長院長當院長可是呢其實跟蘇嘉全院長時代或者跟游錫堃院長時代我們去做過比對那麼這個格式都完全一模一樣 |
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所以呢並不存在現在立法院想要做什麼藍白遮羞布想要把提案人抹去或者想要把提案說明把它就遮蓋的這樣的狀況我覺得給外界這樣錯誤的訊息這樣是不應該的而且呢也 |
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無助於這個我們總預算的一個推進那另外呢其實我在這邊也補充說明如果說像我們現在立法院我們也有公報的網站所以如果大家要去了解114年度總預算各個提案包含他的提案人包含他的這個提案的說明到現在為止在我們立法院的網站 |
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清清楚楚可以查到沒有被消失沒有遮羞布沒有黑箱的問題我想這一點呢應該一定要讓大家知道啦我覺得也許呢我們有些呢可能來自於網路上錯誤的資訊或者側翼呢刻意的帶風向老實說呢都已經很困擾了我想至少呢黨團的幹部應該要提供 |
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一個正確的質詢就是你作為評論 你怎麼評論 大家尊重但是你提供的資訊不能夠錯誤 不能扭曲我想這一點呢是應該 我想各黨團的幹部都有這樣的一個我們有這樣的義務啦所以在這邊就說大家對一件事情你或許有你不同的看法和評論但是提供的事實我覺得不要做 |
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錯誤的一個扭曲這一點非常重要那另外剛才柯總召也特別關心的是其實這都跟今天的協商的重點沒有關係但是那我也願意做一個說明啦那麼就是有關於總預算跟才化法那個 |
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客者中大職域就說 啊為什麼才化法到現在都沒有送出為什麼一定要跟總預算一起送出因為當時我們陳玉珍 張偉他主要針對因為當我們才化法通過之後 |
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後來行政院就召開記者會那個記者會就跟大家講說不排除重編總預算這個是行政院發言人對外說的 |
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他說整個114年度的總預算都可能因為財化法通過需要重編雖然呢後來因為我們在財委會的時候我們有專案報告我們有找主計處主計長來 |
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找財政部長來還有包括我們那個行政院的副秘書長來我們都問他問他到底有沒有這個問題那他們又說哎呀這個沒有從編的問題但是因為非常的混淆所以呢陳玉珍招委希望他為什麼提出來就希望因為才化法他 |
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就是會跟總預算發生連動的關係所以希望當我們總預算都確定之後才劃法一起送出免得要出現被人家帶風向被人家造謠 被人家扭曲的狀況我剛才特別講了 |
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因為那時候財化法一通過 行政院不是用臉說 也不是哪一個側翼喔是由行政院召開記者會 由行政院發言人對外說不排除總預算從邊所以我們希望說 當我們整個總預算全部都確定之後當然我們財化法也一起把它送出 |
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那如同剛才當然剛才柯總召講了很多當時通過三法的事情我想我不想浪費時間啊那我要講的是到目前為止那我們一直覺得能夠完成25年沒有修正的才化法這個是立法院一個重大的功臣對於我們很多縣市地方自治對他們來講也是非常重大的注意啊 |
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所以我們當然要推動但是呢我們希望在這個送出的過程裡面不要被扭曲 不要被造謠那我想這個是我待會稍微來說明一下來跟柯總召來說明為什麼當時陳玉珍召委會提出希望這個才化法先暫時可以先延緩這個公佈而這個法律延緩公佈呢剛才齊凱委員也特別有講過 |
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法律延緩公佈呢 這個是首創嗎 當然不是首創過去包含毒品危害防治條例 菸酒管理法草案廢紙民事訴訟費用法 智慧財產案件審理法等等 |
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其實過去都有案例因為基於一些他的希望能夠更完整周詳的考慮然後暫時的延緩公佈所以這不是首例也不是首創 |
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我想這個其實我們過去也跟大家在說明不過因為柯總召今天一直很很執著於這個議題那我們也來在這裡能夠跟這個柯總召來做一個說明那我想基本上 |
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我們今天其實大過年的我們還是會希望大家說好話然後今天能夠完成這樣的一個協商結論讓我們議事處理能夠順暢這才是最重要的以上謝謝謝謝 請柯總召 羅志祥委員請準備羅志祥 你要好好聽我講話不要跑我講到12點讓你去開 |
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我某些方面很不容易有問題院長這些人都同意我們黨我看是昨晚秘書長統一公告的每一個人講的都一樣而且一派胡言根本在浪費時間什麼不要浪費大家時間今天沒有你們講話的一例我只要問秘書長院長說他要擔起來我問你院長是合理的吧但是你要回答我 |
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| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
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隨便拍的旅遊都沒有關係我今天為什麼這麼生氣不是我一個人生命安全發生問題我叫吳思堯去那邊跟你瞎貨一般你以為是真的啊我們在釣魚吳思堯本身也有恐慌性他晚上七點四十一分隔壁的 |
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這邊也是一樣八八點四十分這是我們幹部每一個毫無意外接受恐嚇但是他不是恐嚇,他本來就想幹我我很清楚所以我們三長公布的時候東森新聞一些白癡在赴行說明天要開議了他們三長才不出來 |
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我們早就 稍微結束以後我們就想好我們部會是什麼一定是最鐵的嘛那你會嚇死啊下一期是什麼當然是八美會期嘛大家都知道現在照這樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
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大罷免時代,我們5月30號就結束了現在是三個月,現在有三個月的暑假也沒有什麼臨時會可開啦老實講,夏威夷9月1號以前一定是什麼?大罷免以後,投票以後的結論是怎麼樣? |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
9063.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
9065.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
今天記者問我說二來六來是怎樣你們說啊 藍白一定會贏我說請倒掛這不是同樣 和過去不一樣了現在整個對 和民意對抗了只有不到一百個 |
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9084.069 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
9104.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
六十二個 馬英九已降那些紅統的金頭正好是一些深藍的 黃連資的人還在講還在講左營論這一百個人和兩千深藍的人在對一面請問所以呢國外臉書本來就要發表你看明天 |
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| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
9130.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
我在登映啦那些人就解釋出來了這一刻我等多久了昨天那天你們用把我牽制住我們民進黨團民進黨團成員很多那支持我們很多每一個是去轉傳中國有辦法嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
9158.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
AV台灣的副總是助理嘛以前是助理嘛這件事我沒有摸清底我會跟你們打仗我上雅錄也是非常困難才上去啊他們根本不讓我上去啊因為我和曹燕妍兩個人傷害力最強講直白的話 |
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9161.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
9171.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
過去大家都說國家安全人類有責保育環別人類有責十萬金連十萬金這兩講實在的兩件事在蘇俄蘇俄在中國裡面講共產黨蘇俄絕對不可靠短時間過的先生也是一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
9204.189 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
韓院長你們都是國民黨出身的今天變成我們是兩蔣的信徒啊這德國人怎麼這麼錯亂我們要抗中保台啊你們要把國家出賣掉你們要不要喝口水 |
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| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
你不是擔心我?我一直看著你眼睛到底你有沒有在聽?我最專心你有沒有感到很慚愧?後面孫中山先生你也看一下嘛孫中山先生的心也有膽來 國外的國好 創建中華民國我拜託你一個好不好 2月25號開議你表達一下意見我講完你們聽完我就走因為時間的關係 |
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| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
9257.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
我講到晚上所以連年不要跑啊沒有講今天是很嚴肅的我現在是在生死十萬之際所有的臉書本來就寫好很多稿子準備發出來明天我會寫什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
自個人 六人生死一度來事實如歸啊要保護中華民國是變成民進黨的責任當然我們是民進黨的責任啊賴總統他是國際安全所啊因為憲法的規定他只是最重要的是國際安全啊吳奎縣龍龍水是馬英九啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
9317.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
我跟他打官司打五年 羅日祥當時在請馬英九只有兩個人一個叫蕭旭成 一個羅日祥 其他沒有一個人請馬英九我始終講一句話 漢威憲政體制 終結特殊國馬英九可以叫黃世民這種筷子手 監聽國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
9347.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
這切開多大事啊水門事件林柯昇也是監聽對方的記者辦 監聽總部下台馬英九可以叫王世民監聽國會其實喔 你們都不知道馬英九的時候 過去國民黨有所謂AB檔案外面執政一來就全部燒毀馬英九上台以後 |
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| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
沒有差別監聽所有的他認為重要的至少五百個到八百個名單 |
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| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
拜託不要講這樣的我們就先鎖住這兩個議題每一個都息息相關當然啦 整個地質上的事情都息息相關重點是我們先確認這兩個議員法三章嘛 你不是要聽我說嗎後面還有其他委員要發言嘛後面還有其他委員要發言嘛後面還有其他委員要發言嘛後面還有其他委員要發言嘛你們從一派胡言亂語每一個講都一樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
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郭文綺講的和他講的一樣 統一公告的啦隨便拜個禮盒嘛 笑死人我非常的對焦欸拜託拜託不要插嘴好不好你假如說到幾點你就不主持外面了那你總要給我講話的時間嘛 |
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你說他早上12點,你說他早上5點半6點,我也認了,照規矩來嘛等一下是5點半,你好好行程可以跑,就要下台了,你們全部人打包還在跑行程 |
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我們務實的講啦,我也不會在這語言下麥啦照意識規則來啦,就5至5點半嘛我們等到5點半以後,我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就...我們就... |
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所有事情這個最重要還有什麼其他事情我們所有幹部都無差別接到國會心情要暗殺的對象我身為總召我可以跟你 |
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9493.55 |
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柯總召我覺得很關心院長我們是不是可以請立法院我們以立法院的名義去報案開玩笑柯總召的人身安全很重要我們以院長的名義幫柯總召來報案你怎麼生氣幫你報案 |
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9514.534 |
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4點鐘我們立法院張副院長已經去警政署署長辦公室講柯總召的事情了我們必須嚴肅處理 |
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我知道,你當委員長嘛,我很感謝你不用那麼多好心嘛,弄的時間而已啊院長我們先講時間吧為什麼有點?你總要給個理由啊!蛤?要你接受?不然什麼事? |
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今天是重大事情了一開日當天我先講一個啊為什麼前新立法院長請問周恩來你來立法院這麼久 |
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開會當天 報告日當天 王晉編長乃至於你剛才講蘇嘉全 劉維新 會不見嗎在還沒開始 還沒報告日以前 當時張綺曹也想什麼時候要開議 什麼時候要開議有人在找 那個事情都排出來了 |
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史上 文明最依褻的 既然我們要開記者會 學習台院長然後我打電話給他 他不接 傳解信他不接我記者會一開就跑出來了我說 隔壁的你們也在開記者會啊然後詐騙新人終於跑出來了 還敢出來騙 |
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你永遠不要講那個顛倒思維的話我覺得現在可以散會羅柯總召認為自己在開記者會我們真的不需要幫他在他旁邊不敢回應嘛我們是不是就可以 就是結束了 院長就是直接我們決定的建議 |
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我是希望柯總召能夠針對二月二十五號開議這個能夠對焦一下對啊 我就在對焦這個事情嘛我每一個人只指問題的核心嘛我要問你的啦你說你院長負責嘛現在臺灣民進黨團都簽字了就是民進黨團同意不投二月二十五號開議院長請到五點半好不好請說你可以不回答我把時間用掉 免得你尷尬 |
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因為你身為日韓院長怎麼算沒有送出去是你的問題啊權益婚禮原則啊憲法規定的啊憲法60年條你還要回應什麼啊審議一雙法院案、憲政國會案、條約案等等啊你國家總統事項啊 |
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總預算是立法案的事情行政院負責預算騙人以及人事這是權力分裂嘛司法是司法獨立啊 |
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有監察院的職責,考試院的職責至少目前還是有些憲法沒有一個人可以站在憲法的對面只有現在偉大的藍白集團自認出來的人說我們不認 |
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9735.482 |
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我還說你們未來只有小菜而已未來更厲害,我怎麼不知道你們要搞什麼要把縣市法避失掉很可惜你們縣市法全部被冰凍起來那我完全輸不出,是你們自己造成的你只要寫四千、十個、九個那你還要砍人家八個八個 |
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這怎麼走下去這不是僵局是人自己打自己嘴巴所以講說雖然沒有一個憲法確實有種出來跟我們辯論 |
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我說大好官不宜,好官不宜,大好官更不宜慘定不動不散人事到的時候再來試試這也無所意義啦七月號面對修法訴訟法修法訴訟法是我當年我和李太郎還有上次被你們幹掉的那張大好官 |
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當時他是蘇營廳長因為我們憲法蘇大法在前身就叫做大法補完整身體安全法那就是要全數的十個十個你改成一個十個角度你這樣改本來就是一個違憲的行為三十條你自己改壞掉然後呢不准比喻嘛 |
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那現在我們是限訴法了所以因為大法官審理安監法太難了要實現有時候一年輸不到兩個所以要起來改為大法官審理安監憲法輸送法讓它法庭化 而且公開化這是一個符合的民主精神過去事件 |
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根本沒有法庭法 他說你違憲就違憲 他說你合憲就合憲所以現在要有憲法訴訟法 法庭法當年580事件也是我提的這次憲法訴訟法也是我提的 都是我履行提案的歷史合體合性的我能夠在這件事情的關頭看到國家整個憲政的嶄新 |
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所以今天我們要把問題講清楚院長,你是立法院院長立法院做什麼?審議算嘛不是彩繪指令的事情也不是做外來的事情,也不是醫師服務的事情到最後你要總染七折啊 |
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你自己在那裏運作,可以說這個神醫部除精總署,當然你們,所以你們都弄不出來,這種我跟你們說,是誰掰出來的理由? |
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那這樣以後行政院說你們預算審查我行政院來審查好了這是什麼邏輯啊所以指揮總署人家負責分別預算啊他要幫你把預算對出來人家沒有辦法對出來雖然剛才講的 |
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就是那一幕是什麼那一幕是你們現在蔡偉銳一個初稿所以那初稿我們沒看的我要請問道瑜總預算算多少道瑜總預算算了這提案委託法違憲的提案有多少你們知道嗎四千兩百案啊 |
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沒案的路 沒一個提案人都是把自己的生命 自己宣判 自己死刑了我會想可以 兩種的失敗 你可以是幸運的發敗 還在那裡活著這是什麼 這是 全世界是稀有動物啊這件事要學習你們有什麼 憲政理論可以跟我 我們大家討論您可以說服我 我非常同意 |
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你哪一本秀啊秀來跟我送一瓶你們是視秀馬為儒物啊全世界視秀馬為儒物來好看的就是中國共產黨你們來抄襲中國共產黨 |
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難道你不覺得可恥嗎?你還能不能站在你身邊啊?如果國家不建如果所有人民的家業不建財產變貴人請問誰會投給你們?你們還有票?還是六四盤?還是你們藍軍的票?大家怕什麼?我從這時就不對了 |
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你們不要笑你們還有很多法我寫以後 人生上寫過你自己想一想 你換了哪些法還有葉言詩跟白詩亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦亦 |
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難道你那個高雄市檢察長是已經下了啊柯總長你現在講到葉元智幹嘛我們現在講開議日嘛你們錯亂邏輯嘛我覺得這樣我們顯然沒辦法達成共識我講到五點半嘛我講到五點半就來結論啊我可以依照黨團提議的 |
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院長就必須要召開全院談話會的到時候我們請黨黨幹部有機會再溝通一下那麼我會決定徵詢大家我們決定召開談話會的時間我們想...談話會是讓我來講話對不對?能這樣嗎?你講話不像是...你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你講話不像是...你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你講話不像是...你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你講話不像是...你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你講話不像是...你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫人家講什麼可以嗎?你叫 |
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我陪柯總召聊天你不是要陪我到12點嗎來陪你聊天啊 |