| IVOD_ID |
164804 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164804 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T11:37:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T11:47:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da512cf0bc09135c22e1c033660070f94f42a1aee410a7bf192f16d77fa562bcf7fe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:33 - 11:47:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司董事長及勞動部就「臺鐵各地車站旅客安全措施檢討、改善員工職場安全及勞動條件」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長及交通部鐵道局局長就「全台軌道建設進度」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月27日、29日及30日三天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝好 鄭董事長請學生委員 麥克風要開鄭董 陳委員好辛苦了齁我在交通委員會十幾年了齁我大概讚美你是讚美最多的 |
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從你在立榮當總經理總市長一直到現在到高鐵那這次你從高鐵掉到台鐵來我不曉得是我們哪個長官沒電了嗎把你調過來對不起部長不是講你不知道誰沒電了把你調到台鐵來可能是你在高鐵的表現太好了轉虧為盈我們在公司化整個過程 |
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你這邊當總經理嘛是不是後來董事長這個過程我都歷歷在目看在眼裡因為我在交通委員會非常久了那你去台鐵當然你表現很好可能給你更重要的任務我想我們這個年紀能夠替國家社會做點事也是很光榮的一件事情所以我一直勉勵你就是鼓勵你 |
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這個不要因為薪水多少錢多少而妨害了你的心境你過來以後我發現有人跟我反映說高鐵的便當不如台鐵高鐵的便當他的商務商不如台鐵部長你回去好好檢討一下好不好高鐵那麼高的票價如果便當輸給台鐵的話未免也太丟臉了嘛對不對這個注意一下好不好 |
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另外台鐵你上任以後敬老措施我看了日本很多的影片他們敬老非常的好銀髮族很多現在高齡社會坐火車去玩去哪裡我覺得董事長你可以跟觀光署 |
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各縣市政府尤其花蓮台東縣政府可以合作推出這樣的列車定位每一站每一站每一站你們把這些老人還有小朋友親子活動帶去玩然後從那邊再帶回來你一站一站的每一個列車我想都會客滿你不但可以對這些老人對這些家庭的活動有些注意而且對台鐵的收益 |
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那可以說也是一個幫助所以台鐵我希望你去那邊以後業務蒸蒸日上當然台鐵跟公路總局機必成科很多去的人這不是一個好位置去的人責任負擔很重我想我在交通委員會特別跟您勉勵我們共勉好不好謝謝委員的勉勵我也全力以赴 |
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你要加油了好不好那你的便當尤其希望更精進我在交通委員會每次中午吃飯你問那個後面的小姐吃飯那個如果不是台鐵便當我都搖搖頭我就走了我沒興趣所以我也拜託主任秘書這邊交通委員會主任秘書你都供一些台鐵便當嘛我們交通委員會你看所有那麼多單位都沒有單位提供便當的 |
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連我們召委你看都點頭成事啊是不是台鐵便當一個禮拜起碼兩次好不好我們也給鄭董免利嘛好不好謝謝委員給我們的加油鄭董你請回我請召委拜託交通部陳部長 |
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謝謝部長昨天是總諮詢是馬祖大橋啊我想你也聽到了嘛有我昨天站在院長旁邊你講說公文給我我到現在回去查還沒收到你說他360億是那360億就360億那院長也講了那既然如果是360億的話那就360億嘛那你也看到360億的公文嗎 |
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公文我沒看到但是你沒看到我也沒看到他們給我的資料是這樣子的數字沒關係啦這個不重要那主要就是編列預算編列預算啦我在台北市是負責編列預算的審查預算的我對預算非常的了解他編預算上預算的過程有過程的有程序的院長也講了既然技術沒問題經費沒問題那麼就開始編列預算嘛 |
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那編列預算你要先開會啊今天公路總局局長沒有來啦今天是台鐵的巡達嘛那你回去告訴一下公路總局好不好我們從下個月開始請他 |
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起碼就因為院長到昨天為止沒有講說不行喔準備要上預算因為已經七年了未免也太長了一點對已經七年了可是這個要等院合定他們的合定還沒下啦合定合定嘛你們程序一走啊你們一團死水的嗎跟我們擺在那個地方擺了八年一百年蛤 |
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你不要連那個情死亡的墓最後被找出來你們還沒搞出來啊進度都有在走啊但是就是現在在等最後合定那你弄嘛到底怎樣嘛是不是你是陳學生委員在追啊好我希望你們下個月開始不管有沒有合定每個月召集一次會議我想我去參加不太方便你們按照程序齁隸屬關係找行政院找 |
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不是行政院 交通部這邊找林鄉縣政府每個月開一次匯報好不好 每次開一次匯報到明年四月份 把它訂出一個方案來然後咧 因為明年的預算是今年上嘛後年預算是明年上嘛那明年上預算之前你們一定內部有個討論嘛 |
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有個決定嘛 行政院有個程序嘛是不是 行政院程序批了以後你們才上得了預算啦不然你上不了預算嘛 對不對對 所以我是說你從現在開始 已經十月份時間也不多喔 禮拜五很長喔現在十月 過去就十一月了十一月 十二月 一月 二月 三月 五個月時間把這個事情搞定搞定以後咧要簽給大院 行政院 |
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給時間核定以後你四月份我們主計人員才能夠把這個預算編進去才能上預算那你要整編嘛然後七八月份預算送到立法院來審議我一定要看到我沒看到的話說真的我已經發怒了我昨天講了我已經按耐我一直按耐我不是沒有脾氣的人你們可能看我陳雲仁沒有脾氣好欺負 |
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不要這樣嘛 不會啦 沒有人敢欺負你這樣不好好不好 不會 不會然後或是有些錢我常常聽到說給綠不給藍我希望沒有這個事啦 不好啦我們聯江其實也幫很多忙委員應該都知道我其他有一些預算 你看你現在即使才辦法給我錢我還是不夠嘛 還是不夠嘛 |
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你7億多你給我22億好了我多17億不夠一般補助款跟計畫型的補助嘛你拿到一些錢擺在那邊爛尾樓嗎不可能所以我想部長你了然於衷這個錢不夠的補助款跟計畫型的一些補助款你還是要補助給我們好不好 |
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我會看到時候主總他的原則主計總署他的原則他給的原則給我們之後該協助連江該協助馬祖我們一定會全力來協助金門110億澎湖七八十億馬祖22億他們吃得油油的我們沒有然後這個修法提案是我提出來 |
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我是忍辱負重把離島的問題2.5%的問題把它解決把這問題解決雖然300多億財化碼剩下300多億那其中有220億是金馬鵬的那臺灣的部分只剩下100多億那我不管他你把分子分母的問題把它解決以後其他的臺灣平均怎麼分別按照程序去處理那我們不夠的部分請部長 |
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你告訴所屬單位沒有什麼給綠不給藍的如果這樣我會發怒好不好不好不好也會影響到我們藍軍對省預算的態度我們有足夠的經費的時候對於地方政府能夠協助的我們的態度你沒足夠也要給啊你不能房子蓋了一半你不給錢啊所以以前是地方政府要要回饋百分之十現在是四十趴欸四十%欸我們哪有這個錢所以部長你答應我 |
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就是這個馬祖大橋的事情下個月開始啟動院長昨天講得很清楚了我想你也聽到了對啦啟動開會這個沒問題要開會但是你說要編預算我們要等到沒有你要開會開會沒問題開會你開會怎麼樣我要知道我就一個月好不好你開會讓我知道好不好好好好沒問題我們找聯交縣政府一起來開會因為我們那個抓委規定很嚴格 |
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沒超過30秒就按鈴一次這個交通委員會從來沒這樣我當召委都讓他多講10分鐘可以多講他就不讓我講了後面兩個委員在看好了 後面何市長在催了 謝謝 |