| IVOD_ID |
164724 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164724 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第6次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第6次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-28T11:17:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-28T11:48:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:30:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/92aebe1c891438fa80c869ef712f3a7b89a1be6dc52a58ecfa70843d993d5f9ebfd7d0b5a5c6118a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:17:39 - 11:48:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第6次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。二、討論事項：本院交通委員會報告併案審查委員徐巧芯等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七條之一條文修正草案」等案共4案。（施政質詢後接續進行）三、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。四、下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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主席韓院長在座卓院長與行政團隊各位媒體先生記者小姐還有各位同學大家早安大家好主席可不可以請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢 |
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看到那麼多的學生裡面還有來自美國的有些美國來的朋友我們現在台灣的關係跟美國是不是歷史以來最好最密切 |
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我想今年學生也好外國來的朋友也好要看的是台灣的民主政治我們在這個民主殿堂上的對話在民主發展過程當中是非常重要的不僅如此會來這裡看的就是跟我們理念相近的國家所以我們歡迎美國來的朋友所有理念相近國家的夥伴們一起來關心台灣國內的民主狀況也關心我們國家在印太地區我們願意扮演的責任跟角色 |
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是 太好了 所以我們高考醫生台灣加油我的問題是說我們台灣現在跟美國的關係好不好台灣跟美國的關係一直以來都是一種盟友的關係既然那麼好 接下來的話這個月底馬上就有川習會 |
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那你知不知道川習會在談的當中這次會不會談到台灣的問題據川普總統的講話當中之前說有要談 |
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但是我是認為不論是有談無談還是公開談私底下談美國跟台灣應該有共同的國際上的利益這個利益包括經濟包括科技包括區域的和平穩定我想這個應該不會在談判過程當中有任何的散失這是我們的期待所以這一次的川習會台灣不會被賣掉吧 |
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怎麼會 台灣會被誰賣掉呢我們不希望被賣掉我看到烏克蘭啦烏克蘭就被搞垮啦 |
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烏克蘭從一開始你看 全部北約的關係 美國的關係最後死的是烏克蘭人最後要割地賠款的是烏克蘭所以我很擔心 你說你跟美國好你可以透露一點 稍微批評一下會不會把台灣賣掉 |
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報告委員台灣的國家的民主發展我們的經濟實力我們的科技的整個領先地位以及我們在地緣關係上對台灣目前整個安全上的維護台灣都不會是烏克蘭台灣就是台灣就是中華民國台灣這個不容改變而且外交部掌握的資訊比我們一樣關於美國不只是川普總統其他重要的國家的一些 |
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誰也有我們跟美國的關係啊我們台積電去美國了我們台灣也擁有美國很多很多的美國債券的國債我們總要換一點利益回來吧 |
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我們要讓台灣再次偉大前提是台灣不能被犧牲掉啊會不會在川習會的這個討論當中他能確保台灣的安全台灣有事 美國就有事 |
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他可以做到這一點 捍衛台灣的安全嗎我相信我們跟世界的理念相同的國家跟夥伴都有共同的利益那至於美方的講法 外交部現在有新的做法那個部長說一下報告委員 那個美國國務卿入比歐剛才在昨天已經說明了 充分說明說 |
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雖然有川習會但是絕對不會放棄台灣再來剛才委員也跟上面在打招呼台灣跟美國是兩個社會之間的關係兩個社會是數百萬數千萬人之間的關係這個很難被背叛所以台美關係應該就如同剛才所說的是史上最好我們有太多的共同利益那這個共同利益是會我們會共同去維護的所以你對 |
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台美的關係堅定穩固的安全關係你是有信心的包委員非常有信心有信心等不等於現實的情況 |
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也是現實的情況剛才應該委員報告了盧比歐美國國務卿盧比歐說絕對美國絕對不會放棄台灣那就事實來講因為美國也是台灣也是美國的一個重大利益所在所以其實我們光是看最近有一個數字國安局釋放出來的數字在最近三個月內應該是很精確來講美國跟亞太各國在這個地區已經實施近30次的軍事演習 |
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這個請各國還有請美國在這邊進行軍事演習代表這個地區是美國的重大利益所以台灣的穩定安全絕對是美國重大利益我們一定是兩國一定共同維護這是為什麼我剛才跟委員報告台美關係從來沒有如此好過我們的共同利益也從來沒有如此強大過既然台美關係那麼密切那麼好拜託你轉達一下 |
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是不是可以在川習會見面的時候起碼提一點點括號共軍不要再來台灣飛一飛報告委員不要常常軍演你至少要表達你需要什麼 |
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美國跟我們講他需要台積電需要我們成立主權基金來幫助美國我們也該做都做了我們也買了很多的美國的空債你可不可以講一句拜託的話拜託保護台灣的安全麻煩川習會在會談的時候起碼 |
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第一個小紙條你工軍不要再來飛台了吧或者是說加強兩岸的和諧或者你可以講一些什麼訴求請他幫忙 |
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兩國的外交關係是經常年累月累積起來不是一張小紙條的動作我們不會用小紙條我們是光明磊落 正大光明的以國家的利益跟國家的利益來結合大聲說出口這一個川習會事實上可能就是又是一個轉變想一下去年的時間台海兩邊 兩岸感覺 |
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劍拔弩張感覺山雨欲來風滿樓會不會因為川習會這次的見面兩岸改變變成是另外一個主軸就是世界要和平包括貿易的部分是不是在這次川習會當中中美貿易戰 |
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他100%的關稅現在聽說要取消了會不會又變成另外一個契機啊因為我們看到川普啊川普總統他有他的智慧他講了半天他也是希望股市漲啊所以美股現在啊四大標準指數屢創新高啊畢竟他是一個生意人如果川媒講完以後 |
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會不會出現台海和平的另外一個契機報告委員 我想 |
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和平現在不只是我們台灣非常努力在做我想美國也是所以前陣子以色列跟加薩和平美國也扮演重要角色剛剛美國總統也去了泰國泰國跟高棉的和平也簽訂和平美國也扮演重要角色所以我們相信對於美國的一個重大利益就是一個和平穩定這個地區我剛才提到過因為台灣跟美國其實不止還有跟日本 |
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的共同利益 韓國各地的供應財是太大了所以美國總統也剛剛去日本訪問跟新當選的首相高市早苗我們可以看到在美日 台灣還有整個地區的共同努力之下我覺得和平是一定可以維持的謝謝 大家都愛和平 全世界都希望和平那麼請問行政院卓院長 |
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軍購的預算會不會三減我們國防預算難道要持續再增加嗎我們當然依照國家的財政跟國防的需求會整體考量 |
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天購強化我們的國防力量因為和平是要靠實力的和平不是用談出來的任何一張和平的談判都不能代表永遠的和平歷史上太多次了我們都應該相信包括國共兩黨之間越談越打越打越輸所以談判在目前為止我們認為只有強化我們自己的力量我們才能維持 |
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永遠的而且有尊嚴的和平所以該做的都還要做就對了必須要做好 既然這樣我們看到這個川普川普是你的好朋友吧我們國家的好朋友川普他願意跟全世界做好朋友 |
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那川普是好朋友你的好朋友我們的好朋友川普都跟習近平要見面了現在國民黨的黨主席鄭麗文他說為了兩岸的和平他也願意去跟習近平見面啊那請問如果鄭麗文去安排跟習近平見面那行政院的態度是如何 |
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如果真的有這麼一天我希望他能夠堅持中華民國主權不會被侵犯不會被剝奪台灣人民的民主自由方式也不會被改變那雙方能夠在一種對等 |
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的狀況底下如果能夠展開有序的接觸健康有序的接觸站在國家的立場我覺得對人民也是好的對全世界也是好的發展太棒了那很顯然說曾立文他當上了國民黨的這個主席以後即將跨出第一步行政院卓院長也是蠻支持的那第二個問題就是說他如果進行了正席會的時候那卓院長你要不要一起陪同 |
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不成體制不要一起陪同這立委他走他的政協會那有沒有可能卓院長可以跟兩岸的高層在第三地試試看嘛不要說兩岸的關係一味的叫一定要互碰互碰火車對撞也許可以有點輕鬆的方式啊 |
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那這也非我一廂情願可以做一個學術交流或者是說中華民族的和平探討也可以啊這也非我一廂情願只要對方不設前提不扣帽子不堅持台灣是他的一部分能夠以中華民國跟中華人民共和國互不隸屬的身份來立場來對談我絕對願意真的吼真的那我們也是樂觀其成只要對兩岸好的 |
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我一直在這邊守了三十年的立法院我唯一一點就是說台灣不要戰爭 |
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你要派我去做什麼或者是有一些工作什麼的我都願意個人的犧牲都無所謂但是兩岸千萬不要戰爭戰爭剛剛馬祖的陳雪生他們都第一線歷經多少戰爭的痛苦跟犧牲多少的流血所以我們希望說政治歸政治有時候還是有一些其他輕鬆的方法 |
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你正面的要做你其他方式也要做所以本席很認同剛剛主任長所講的這一點有機會談還是希望來推動一下多一點的交流另外一個就是兩岸的關係現在冰凍了很久現在陸委會有沒有跟大陸沒有任何的聯繫上一次高層的聯繫是什麼時候 |
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跟委員報告我們持續維繫兩岸關係聯繫的方式溝通的方式都有那是中國大陸基於他要消滅中華民國要併吞台灣的政治前提不願意跟我們談判我們希望兩岸可以很快的回到對等尊嚴的原則下進行 |
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溝通對話這是有必要的這是兩岸關係良性互動的開始我們希望對方能夠正視中華民國客觀存在的事實我是說你上一次跟大陸的高層見面是什麼時候陸委會 |
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我想我們上次兩岸有所謂的您講的高層應該是海基會跟對岸海協會首長的會談那個還是在2015年的時候2015年今年幾年了 |
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我想我們都在努力促成兩岸能夠恢復官方的互動是中國大陸用了台灣無法接受的政治前提在他們的前提裡面中華民國不可能存在我們不斷的呼籲對岸要以人民的福祉為念要互利互惠共榮共存共同來努力你剛講的很好啊如果他宣布說他不消滅中華民國你就要跟他見面了嗎 |
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我想剛剛委員有說黨對黨的交流不能取代政府對政府的交流我們才能夠維護整體國家的利益黨對黨的交流可不可以繼續進行我想剛剛我們院長也說了只要在對等尊嚴只要能夠確保國家主權跟我們自由民主的生活方式 |
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這些都能夠確保的話我想我們願意樂觀其成但是我們也擔心 |
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在2019年這個元月月號習五條之後所謂中共的九二共識一個中國原則以及一國兩制都是三位一體的對台政策在這個政策裡面沒有中華民國的空間那個你輕鬆一點沒關係啊因為 |
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分析會馬上就要見面了見面完你就等著看你就有釋出一些訊息出來你們就等著迎接另外一面的交流也不要把自己說這個太緊張自我封閉 故不自封我們還是希望看到兩岸多多交流我們還是一樣不卑不亢維持現狀謝謝那現在非洲豬瘟的問題這個問題很嚴重那造成現在 |
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也不曉得什麼可以吃以前過去滷肉飯滷肉飯是國民美食大家吃吃院長吃到現在不曉得要吃什麼不是排骨飯就是雞腿飯 |
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豬的豬腳什麼也都不能吃了那現在還有什麼可以吃就是在禁營禁宅的期間那我們國內有庫存的國產的豬肉那冷凍的部分我們也會釋出包括學童營養午餐包括我們的超市量販店還是都可以買得到這個物價的評議很重要畢竟現在物價飆漲一些年輕人還有學生苦哈哈 |
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真的買一個便當雞腿便當140那一個月下來要多少的費用是要注意這個問題這個豬瘟的問題如果守不住的話對台灣的農民還有這個畜牧業影響非常非常大 |
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希望委員多給我們現在這個防疫團隊多多的鼓勵農業部也好 環境部也好甚至我認為包括台中市政府也應該更加的努力中央地方合為一心 合為一體我們才能夠面對這個病毒大家一起來鼓勵目前市面上的肉品絕對是沒有問題的那我們已經把那些有疑似的已經銷毀有流向的也已經管控那盡量就做到各個場域的清消 |
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目前會進到第二輪的疫調第二輪疫調在完成之後我們會有更有更充實而且科學的依據跟國人做報告我們再進到第三輪希望這個為期15天的禁運禁載禁用廚餘的這個時間能夠是我們可以掌握的最短的時間我們在這裡做最短時間的作戰大家加油那請問院長這個破口到底是從哪邊出現的 |
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我跟委員報告現在我們正在疫調那台中市政府提出來初步的疫調的一個報告在昨天送過來了但是我們也發現說在疫調裡面有非常多的必須在釐清的部分那我們也在今天早上的那個台中的前進應變所也特別告訴也要求台中市政府一定要盡快的把相關的疑點再次釐清我們才能夠找到這個這個可能的來源 |
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第一個時間不要懈責因為中央跟地方兩邊要合作中央跟地方其合作其利可斷金一定要合作的態度我們在議調的時候是用專業的角度去尋找所謂的可能的一個來源像有人說淘寶網拼多多現在是不是全部都禁掉了怎麼會有矛頭指向財政部說是因為 |
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這個什麼電商進口然後從那邊出了問題事實到底是怎麼樣 |
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我跟委員報告就是在我們在昨天在那個應變中心討論的時候有討論到我們的跨境的電商的部分那你所提到的這個淘寶的部分其實農業部相對的跟淘寶的電商平台有一些合作模式就是淘寶在平台的時候如果你的地址你購單的地址或者是你的身份或者是你的IP address如果是在台灣的時候他就會屏蔽這是第一個部分第二個部分就是我們 |
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跨部位的合作就會在平台網路去爬收相關的關鍵字如果有遇到可能是含有肉製品的時候我們也會跟平台通知平台會立即下架那這個部分我想我們持續在做那至於說有一些新的平台我們也持續的跟他建構一個比較合作的關係所以這個破口到底是哪裡是不是淘寶 |
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我剛才說了我們現在的疫調過程中有一些疑點必須釐清在疫調沒有完整的時候我們沒辦法確定它的來源是哪裡財政部的說法是說所有的物品進口全都用X光機檢查過嗎 是不是是的 對於那個進口的油包快遞的貨物或旅客行李攜帶進來的在高風險地區來我們都是百分之百X光檢查的 都要檢查 |
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我也跟委員補充就是在整個邊境管制從旅客進來的手提行李後送行李或者是從國外進來的郵包郵件甚至於平台的這些郵包我們都是百分之百過X光那如果特別針對高風險區來的部分那手提行李還是百分之百的就是X光檢查這個部分我想院長也指示了在這個邊境的管理裡面我們會加強我們的效率跟我們的方法 |
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大家加油共同的防疫把關要守好畢竟這個產值也非常大總共農業產值一千多億另外就是大家對政府的信任的問題譬如說朝野的和諧是很重要的我們防疫也要大家齊心來努力也在這裡感謝卓院長 |
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這個從我一開始就提苦民所苦這句話是我們韓院長講的就是普帕現金一萬塊終於現在要發了吧一萬塊那一萬塊你領帶一萬塊你準備打算怎麼花我覺得國家需要這一萬塊所以你會捐出來嗎 |
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我也會捐 我大概捐給一些弱勢團體因為我發現這幾年弱勢團體還有一些民間的團體他們收入來源很少所以希望響應這個院長所說捐出來反正你就領到 你要捐就捐 你要留就留不勉強 希望說大概領到一萬塊 |
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1317.233 |
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1331.678 |
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大人小孩通通樂開懷每個人都靈大今年的稅收可能要超徵了今年的稅收超徵的話今年或是明年要不要變成常態性的不課現金 |
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1333.198 |
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1346.974 |
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達到一定的目標當然不影響我們這個稅出的預算當稅收超徵的時候我們把它的精神拿出來就是懷稅愚民把它變成一個制度化的一個process好不好 |
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1348.533 |
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沒有所謂超增啦是我們的時增數超過我們預算數那預算都是一個預估但預估的時候你沒有辦法想像前一年的預估跟往後一年政府的施政的必要的作為有哪些是突然的所以還是要把整個財政結構讓它有彈性可以積極運用好如果把它硬性規定一定做某一種用途 |
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1373.636 |
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1402.719 |
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那等於是削弱了國家在這個時候的應變力那應變力削弱之後我們整個的競爭力跟防衛力也會減少所以我認為還是要彈性的來應用會比較符合國家的需求看情況再來決定啦那有需要的時候我還是繼續為大家來爭取另外就是普發現金我們領是領到現金嘛我手上有很多的鈔票那我看到央行也在這邊鈔票有新有舊但是新的鈔票很多現在來啦 |
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1403.919 |
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1430.426 |
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民間苦哈哈現在政府說鈔票要改版那院長你看我這個隨便拿出來這個新的鈔票都很多你就要改版改版全部都要銷毀那我請問你看這個100塊的還都很好用而且我們從小到大看到要嘛不是孫中山就是一些偉人的相片我跟他有感情的所以 |
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1431.358 |
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1447.826 |
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鈔票也沒救也沒爛偽鈔也沒有很多的情況之下要改版請問鈔票改版一次要花多少錢這個委員您對你手上的鈔票非常有感情因為他跟你相處了24年這麼長的時間你當然對他有感情 |
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1448.846 |
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1466.872 |
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基於這個時代的科技的進步未來我們會想要更永續更安全 更全民這樣的觀念來做央行有在做規劃當然規劃的過程當中還要跟社會取得很大的共識請總裁來說明先不要改鈔票你改一次鈔票花五百億 |
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1468.372 |
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1495.961 |
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現在人民苦哈哈你花這500億更何況上一次的COVID-19來的時候疫情來的時候已經給我們一個很大的教訓了現在使用鈔票的人是越來越少我們用行動支付用LINE PAY 逼一下悠遊卡逼一下就好為什麼要去製造那麼多的紙鈔紙鈔弄完了以後你要銷毀你還燒掉還迫害環境我們大家用電資 |
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1498.043 |
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1503.609 |
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報告委員 你剛剛說的那個500億是不對的請問是多少錢500億呢 當時說會有估計500億呢主要的是那個Coin 就是那個銅板 |
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1527.221 |
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這一次我們改版不用銅板不改版銅板銅板當時估計就是要400多億所以你看看就是說500億裡面有400多億都是銅板這一次銅板 |
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1531.443 |
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1544.129 |
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是不改版的所以不是像委員剛剛所說的就是說要500億 沒有所以銅板不改版我們每一張的鈔券現在改版的話都增加1.5塊錢 |
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1547.252 |
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1563.574 |
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1.5塊那1.5塊你看看24年24年增加1.5塊錢是不多的如果說按照這樣子你看看24年1.5塊是多嗎我說我們現在不改版的話我們以後改版我們大概我們的成本會更多 |
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所以這個是一個24年跟其他的國家來比較24年已經是非常慢的很多的國家都是11年、15年、16年就改版了改一次版要花100多億好可怕不用那麼多那總是有好幾十億啊 那個錢拿來給弱勢照顧一些老弱產單親家庭不是很好嗎 |
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1591.957 |
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1599.844 |
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把這些錢100億拿來照顧一些需要的人我想這個就是說你如果說微超多的話你的損失會更多 |
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1605.209 |
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1618.055 |
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因為現在科技在進步我們可以用行動支付等等鼓勵大家多用行動支付但是問題是現在的行動支付還是沒辦法來替代紙鈔的紙鈔是在某種情況之下紙鈔一定都會存在的 |
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1628.82 |
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1643.734 |
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沒有 你可能很久沒有去過大陸了沒有沒有沒有你去那個大陸的一線城市我記得上次去已經是很久以前去了去我拿那個線鈔啊要用 居然還沒辦法用 |
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1645.16 |
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1673.987 |
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問了很多的商家說你們現在都不用紙鈔錢幣沒人在用了大概去餐廳餐廳的100個客戶客人裡面他說大概只有1%是用現金所以這一點請央行考慮一下考慮再三也沒有世界規定說你幾年一定要換鈔沒有這個規定而且我剛拿出來的鈔票裡面你看新鈔還那麼多 |
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1700.809 |
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這個你看這個是隨機的這個都是新鈔你看我們的梅花路還很漂亮中國哨幫隊還打得很好所以這個你考量一下另外我再來請一下世界的潮流現在到處美國也發美元計價的穩定幣USDT USDC那請問台灣什麼時候要來發行台灣計價的穩定幣 |
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1706.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1715.21 |
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現在呢 我要跟您報告事實上現在那個金管會他已經提出了虛擬資產服務法現在正在進行當中以新台幣計價的穩定幣什麼時候會上路 |
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1724.868 |
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1746.21 |
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報告委員我想立法院先通過立法執法會在法定程序公佈就可以開始來執行所以以後有機會可以發以台幣新台幣計價的穩定幣這是一個潮流是不是這個是很多國家都在立法也在進行這位是金管會主委吧黃主委表現得不錯 |
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1747.284 |
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1776.323 |
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你看他官運也很通啊一上來股市破2萬點接著股市就要破3萬點了當然美國也漲很多啦那我們看到未來的時代是一個AI的時代一家NVIDIA創辦人是哪一位院長知道嗎 回答黃仁訓先生你看台灣一奈跟你一樣是台南人 |
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1777.352 |
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很厲害啊我不是台南人你不是 你在那邊服務過我也沒有服務過你市政院長服務到台南你可以看一個台灣嬰兒受到全世界到處的歡迎到處轟動那究竟台灣的未來要不要支持AIAI這個未來的趨勢人工智慧到底是剛剛開始還是一個泡沫化所院長可不可以請回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1808.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1830.41 |
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就半導體晶片的AI的世界台灣已經在世界上取得非常領先的地位了那我們現在要做的是繼續在製造上面繼續的精進領先同時我們要發展到軟體的設計軟體設計一起來之後會帶動台灣另外一個國力的新的發展這就是我們的AI新時代建設的一個 |
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1832.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1837.096 |
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我們不只黃仁勳在台灣的台積電我們的環球晶我們的日月光我們的大廠以及大廠底下好 謝謝 |