| IVOD_ID |
164710 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164710 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-27T10:52:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-27T11:03:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e3c6c6412082f242f700842c8e8ee1c2e1e8926e407b158afa8c91b39c2ae80a3c1fa2322f5407415ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:52:52 - 11:03:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員陳崇樹列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金專題報告案計1案。
【10月27日、29日及30日三天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 請陳主委陳主委委員好主委早民眾網購二部以下的自用第二級的電信管制射頻器材進口核准NCC說今年二月份需要新增審查費大概750塊錢也就是當初的我講的750支亂那現在一年馬上要過去了 |
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明年呢跟委員報告我們其實都有在檢討那既然法規是跟要有社會共識這一塊我們當然是外界的反應會當作我們未來修訂這個辦法的一些重要的參與所以這個一定是會跟最新外面的反應跟國會跟大院的這些一些相關的你初步的想法會不會繼續要開增這個錢 |
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目前我們手上的想法討論想法是這一塊是不會不要吧 因為這錢也沒多少 引起民怨幹嘛呢第二個就是本席上一次質詢的時候關心到說因為現在物價都上漲嘛我要你們輔導地區第四台就是業者電信業者第四台說這個推廣地方文化節目 直播費 |
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你們有去輔導嗎 你們說祥東那邊沒有申請嘛 對不對沒有申請 你要去問他 去輔導他有 我們同樣 金門澎湖都有了 離島偏鄉什麼的這個要重視啊對 我們都有跟他講 那一塊普及服務淨成本現在是可以補助180萬 過去是120萬我們都跟離島的澎湖金嘛 都有跟他們講 那曹老闆這邊 |
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他有他的考量我們跟他說沒關係那這部分我們可以把相關的一些參考的範本給你參考來作為申請那他說他會考慮但是始終沒有提出來沒有提出來對 他沒有來提出申請問你們有派人去輔導嗎去看一看嘛派個人到馬祖去看一下一定要等考察的時候去看嗎 |
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目前是電話Email來好幾次溝通那如果不過你要輔導他嘛大概需要的費用是多少我們NCC能夠給人家怎麼樣一個協助跟指導你告訴他嘛 不然的話沒有進步耶你看我們現在小山東的船喔上面撥的都是什麼逃生啊怎麼樣逃生啊 哪一個門啊 萬一發生火災 |
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都是宣導這些東西還有地方的一些那個那個那個那個憲政啊憲政的文宣在裡面看得很令人乏味啊你千萬有一些歌舞劇啊什麼有沒有在裡面啊千萬大家看了以後坐船也減少壓力嘛是不是你不只翔通啊對我們海上的業者這些翔通的問題能夠解決的話這個問題也解決了我是說你們對第四潭能不能派個人去啊可以的有沒有旅費嘛 |
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理費有沒有被刪掉沒有嗎追加之後應該是沒問題追加以後啊我們也沒有刪你啦是幫你凍結嘛當初是有刪掉追加要回三千多萬有嗎單位預算有文宣費記得要少一點啦文宣費我們覺得另外主委你平常在家有看電視嗎有你有看新聞嗎大部分看體育節目啊我大部分看體育節目體育啊 |
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你對體育活動很有興趣喔 新聞呢新聞也會看 因為這是大員關心的你身為NCC主委 你應該對什麼詐騙活動啊哪裡被騙 哪裡被騙 都新聞報導啊你體育活動有報導這些東西嗎我們都有關注啦 我們也有簡報 所以詐騙的最新動態我們大概都有充分看過你充分看哪一台啊我都輪著看我都輪著看啊輪著看喔 |
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輪著看你們都是罵反對黨的啊 都抬啊多元的社會 這個我是覺得是常態好 我來問你你們跟中天打官司打到現在輸了幾次啊我們確定敗訴七件幾件七件上一次十幾件嘛 怎麼七件啊那是還沒終局裁判的就像打棒球一樣沒有打到九局下半你領先我領先 那個都不算數 |
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你們一定要跟國父一樣是不是 十次革命是不是一定打十次才帥是不是現在投降了沒有還不投降打死不退我都想把你們的訴訟費給你刪掉我跟你講你們錢太多了公家的錢不要錢嘛是不是你打一百次也沒關係啊 |
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行政機關的立場是如果我們當初的我們認為當初的裁判判決的裁處適合我們也必須要去處理一下所以中天關台的事件對全國民眾而言我覺得至少有一半人反彈你知道嗎至少有一半人反彈你為什麼把它關掉到現在去找中天要找第四台才找得到中天 |
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很多人透過第四台或是靠網路來看中天你知道嗎這麼重要的一個新聞媒體你們把它關掉你們要對歷史負責是不是隨便把一個媒體關掉你看其他的媒體我一直跟你們講有一些節目把它淨化國內這樣子內鬥內鬥那麼嚴重然後火上再加油是不是在電視上鬥在媒體上鬥 |
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這對國內不是好事耶當然我也不見得講給你聽我也講給卓院長跟賴總統聽是不是內憂外患內憂外患在台灣很多人都去找第二祖國了你知道嗎有錢人都跑掉了很多退休人都在馬來西亞在新加坡在其他地方泰國尤其泰國購房地產很多怕什麼 怕戰爭嘛 是不是 |
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所以你們媒體不要在火上加油嘛好的節目弄一些你多補助一些好的製作費給人家嘛不是那邊把錢給媒體文宣費給他在那邊罵每天在那邊罵誰聽啊現在人腦袋都很聰明啊你知道嗎補助最快大概是產業輔導機關文化部現在自主性都很強你們打了7次你們現在還要繼續打下去嗎 |
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這部分我們會就相關的機關的立場要維護還是要維護要不然監察院也會來追究我們的責任監察院追究你什麼責任就是如果說我們的處分相關的我們沒有去defend的話相對應的應該會有相應的被要求的處理要求你什麼 監察院有什麼作為我到現在沒有看到監察院有什麼很大的作為出來 |
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是不是 監察院是一個打老虎的機關啊應該是包青天啊 現在不是這樣子嘛我們大家都知道心知肚明啊現在老百姓很聰明啊他自己有他獨立自主的一個研判不是說你新聞講什麼就是什麼你看東南部 很多東西你都不播我們每年都辦理這個長波媒體素養培力相關的一些持續有帶這個普及人心讓大家素養提升 |
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打詐的事情我暫時這個仗還不算在你頭上我想這是抒發部他要負起主導的責任他要負起主導的責任這個最大的問題還不在你們我們機關機關會互相協力但是你們要互相把資訊要提供給 |
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有警政署啦 是不是還有書發部啦 媒整部啦你們都要主動橫向聯繫嘛 是不是都會有 行政院打下指揮中心是做個統合協調的中天有赴台的機會嗎看法院的判決法院 法院判你們輸啦 還法院判決判一判二 最後要大法官來解釋嗎沒有 目前是發回台北高行跟審沒關係 你們這樣講齁我個人立場我不同意齁NC委員我一個都不同意 |
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我一個都不同意還有大法官我也一個不同意我覺得不公正嘛對不對你要講公理志在人心啊是不是有啊 本黨委員也跟我講啊誰誰誰還不錯啊不錯一進去以後啊就同流了你知道嗎馬上就同流了我覺得主委你站在這個新聞立場的自由啊以前講黨政軍不介入媒體你覺得現在黨政軍有沒有介入媒體 |
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因為現在媒體其實都是都事先都不會審查都是事後有民眾檢舉來依法處理那也涉及到多元價值判斷那釋制第509其實也有說媒體的言論自由其實法律上也要加以一個適度的一些限制所以我想全國民眾大概都是知道有這種情況之下那也會知道說會啦以前啦 |
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國民黨執政的時候那些領導者有時候笨笨呆呆的你知道嗎黨政經退出媒體講得是很好聽確實不錯啊黨政經確實應該退出媒體現在呢全面介入啊不但介入連政府把錢還丟進去這是不好的事情啊我這個人不是一個幸災樂禍的人我也沒有當上哪個黨派來想我站在一個人啊人啊要有個中心思想要有思考 |
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你要辨別是非的能力 這個大家都有的啦所以你不要以為現在 現在人很聰明欸你不要看這些年輕人他腦袋很清楚欸是不是 你不要想去騙他們這也是詐騙欸 你知道嗎這也是詐騙欸 你看媒體在亂講嘛沒有的事情把它說成有那如果有違反事實查證 我們都會來一番查證 等你查證完那個人已經完蛋 報銷啦 你知道嗎那其實衛光法45條其實有一些救濟的一些權利來機制來處理 |
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好啦我想這個也不是你能力能夠處理的啦但是你中間的部分你可以處理啊是不是你可以的話你可以跟中間合一和解啊或是幹什麼的啊合一和解重大案件要委員會議來討論什麼會議委員會議委員喔嘿嘿再給你上來一個委員你們能夠開會的話我告訴你把TVBS也會關掉遲早的事你看好了好不好謝謝謝謝委員 |