| IVOD_ID |
164705 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164705 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-27T09:55:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-27T10:03:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e3c6c6412082f2421c9f6ca19377f476e1e8926e407b158a7e6f55c1fb2d3161083d1f73e27fc1505ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:45 - 10:03:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員陳崇樹列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金專題報告案計1案。
【10月27日、29日及30日三天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席請陳代理主委陳主委委員好主委好主委其實剛剛這個有關認證還有一個更嚴重的問題那個這個行動電源行動電源裡面那個無線充電的要不要經過NCC的認證要 |
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那行動電源也要經過經濟部商檢局的認證那行動電源在高鐵上Maybe爆炸或者自燃你覺得是你們認證的問題還是商檢局認證的問題還是根本爆炸那一刻沒有經過認證 |
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我们根据过往的经验会爆炸大概涉及到电池的部分为主那电池的本身不涉及无线电频率所以大概应该是标检局或商检局的一些权责范围标准所以换言之产生这种意外的风险基本上不是在我们认证项目里面是没有这个风险疑虑的 |
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就他的品他會產生燃燒或者爆炸基本上跟我們審查的項目沒有因果關係可以這麼說因為無間電頻率其實相對他都是功率不是很高好所以像高鐵這個案子你們有去了解嗎沒有嗎我們有跟經濟部有去橫向的去了解經濟部給你們的回覆是什麼 |
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他們做後續處理因為那一塊的認證是他們在處理好這個其實應該要專案報告這個其實應該立法院要拍專案報告這個 |
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這些盒子或者是其他的它基本上它也很重要但它不對人而言行動電源幾乎現在大家的後背包行李箱或者是甚至手提包裡面其實很多都有行動電源所以它才其實是危險性對人的威脅其實是相對高的 |
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所以主委因為經濟委員會因為經濟部商業局不在這裡所以這個本席建議這橫向像這種個案在橫向聯繫上我們把它釐清到底NCC的這個認證裡面我們的風險大概多高跟這種自然或爆炸對我們的 |
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認證裡面有沒有因果關係那經濟部商檢局什麼問題我覺得這個個案特別是已經發生的個案我們應該詳細把它研究是我們下期會再持續再跟經濟部標檢局商檢局來做橫向聯繫來看看我們可以協力哪些事情對因為他發生在高鐵所以我也請運安會研究 |
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因為它發生 如果它發生在家裡我就沒辦法叫雲南匯研究但因為它發生在高鐵上面它對於整個交通運輸上面包括旅客這一台列車的安全性所以我有請雲南匯研議本席很重視這個案子好不好所以你們也幫忙一併瞭解一下因為我也沒有相關的雲南匯的報告所以我也不知道到底是經濟部商檢局應該這個幾乎 |
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這個問題在他們身上還是在你們的身上所以本席認為這個是很重要的那第二個問題啊這個我們現在這個因為要普發現金一萬嘛所以我們可以看得到這個我們破獲這個我們的電偵大隊破獲這個行動基地台就發那個那個要普發一萬的詐騙簡訊釣魚簡訊那 |
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主委我看你們這個業務報告有去提到說這個詐騙集團大幅減少利用簡訊管道進行詐騙犯罪那這個警政署165的詐騙通報網的最新統計就114年的10月他說詐騙手法的前5名當中這個釣魚簡訊詐騙首度進入前5名所以換言之在 |
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這個警政署的這個報告裡面詐騙簡訊其實是量是在增加所以這個政府兩個單位在統計上這個落差 |
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你有什麼看法幾點回報第一點我們報告裡頭的資訊也是根據165的中心來提供的第二點如果這塊的有提升我們會持續來努力我相信應該是主要是在P2P的個人簡訊上面的一些一些漏洞出現因為電信管理法第8條有規定說要保障到秘密通信我們電信業者是不能去看個人的 |
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簡訊內容但是如果是商業簡訊那一塊我們會透過企業方式可以事先來看個人簡訊部分在文報告有提到的是如果他一天發超過50則我們會請業者給他停掉請他回來電信業者的櫃檯門市那邊重新核對個人資訊OK之後才會重新來發 |
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這一塊如果未來這邊還需要來精進我們會持續努力我們相信有很多大團是利用大概兩種第一個是人頭它的門號其實都是人頭的第二個就是剛剛委員一開始所提示到它是用假的2G基站 |
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假的2G基站这一块的处理我们大概也有几个方面我们已经跟电信侦察队的建立跟电信链子建立相关的一些机制那手机端其实在今年9月1号以后不管是Android或者iOS都透过OTA都可以设定这个手动我2G的基站它是D4不开的那这种情况之下假的2G基站的功效会逐步递减 |
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好那這個這樣的宣導恐怕要加強啦就大家透過手動的方式讓2G的這個偽基地台沒有辦法發揮作用 |
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好 那這個我們會來持續交談因為本來有一支計畫在我們北區市府有一個電磁波宣導包括打112 打生命器材那這一塊我們會把它納入宣導的一個項目這可以跟地方政府合作嘛譬如說地方政府我看中秋晚會每一個社區都在宣導地方政府的一些宣導事項那應該大家手機帶著就是在現場叫大家把2G關掉嘛 |
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跟委員報告我們現在是D4出廠的就已經關掉了直接關掉現在已經出廠還沒有關的數手機數量有多少越來越少我們透過空中更新的方式到今年9月1號以後大概可以知道數字嗎 |
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這個數字大概要估算一下因為新款的D4都關掉了新款的沒問題啦舊款是線上更新也關掉了舊廠可以想辦法那2GG就發揮不了作用那其他的部分就要靠成本很高啦只要發大量簡訊你們就出手這個其實成本很高但為了詐騙其實還沒辦法啦防詐騙其實沒辦法好 謝謝謝謝委員 |