| IVOD_ID |
164668 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164668 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T10:52:10+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T11:03:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d3b3d619a1b8dfac8848629de9594d8cbe378985d1c29b3fea84ce2c86cf23990f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:52:10 - 11:03:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席在場的委員先進列席的政務機關所長官員會長工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請楊總裁請楊總裁 |
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總委很早總裁好今天我的詢問的主題都是打問號但是我先請教一個問題剛剛大家在關心我們新的超券對不對你說是面額都維持原來的面額是嗎對啦100 200 500 1000 2000是 |
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預計那有沒有考慮過有更高的面額因為你剛剛在回答兩百元的時候有說這兩百元可以節省皮夾空間兩張一張抵兩張那既然可以發行兩千有沒有可能考慮發行一萬不會普發先進一萬領一張就好了不因為那個流通量會更少流通量會更好那我們問一下那你參考其他國家你知道嗎美國聯邦他曾經發行的最高面額的美鈔是什麼面額嗎 |
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这个我忘了他们在1865年第25任的财政部长发行了1万面额的美钞到后来到1934年还发行了10万面额的金币券你觉得这个有可能用吗这是用在哪里啊为什么美国要发行这么大面额的美钞它是在财政部跟央行之间的交付而已 |
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我們沒關係我直接告訴你答案啦這個跟我們今天討論的紙鈔沒有關聯這是它是政府跟銀行之間的一個交換使用啦好那現在我們回到這裡來了那麼有人在說哎呀總裁啊你好像在拍馬屁啊說要把那個12強冠軍的印象紙鈔你認為當年我們在1998年發行的這個哨棒冠軍的這個鈔票之後你有在央行嗎1998 |
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你進央行了沒有有那時候有人說那時候央行總裁發行這樣的事在拍馬屁嗎沒有沒有嗎還是說少棒冠軍可以上鈔票不算拍馬屁四棒賽十二強就是在拍馬屁有沒有這樣的問題應該沒有沒有所以就大膽的放心的把我們國人的驕傲就算拍馬屁我覺得也是拍我們國人的馬屁應該不會因為棒球是我們國家的光榮對不對是所以盡量去做好 下來我要請教一下 |
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另外今天比較多聚焦在美國有沒有聽過川普賬戶共和黨提案說新生兒國家就給他100美元然後每年他的父母也可以存進去還可以不用扣稅那到了18歲的時候他就一大筆錢最近我們國內也有要選縣市長的人做這樣的倡議你覺得要達到這種倡議 |
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有什麼條件我舉例來講他們美國的經濟顧問委員會他說如果1000元每年這樣存到18歲可以領到1萬8如果加上一些投報率可以到30萬那到28歲就109萬哇 這個真好啊這個第一桶金政府幫你存1000美金然後到你的18歲到25歲就成為百萬富翁有這個條件嗎 |
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我覺得這個議題我沒有很瞭解我覺得就是說你政府要進去的話你要有budget你要有錢除了政府要有錢能不能預期成長是不是兩個因素第一這整個18年或25年利率要維持高檔或者說股市的平均回報率要好都不曉得 |
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都不曉得那如果國內要推的話那我們央行可不可以告訴我們的政府說沒問題家長放心政府準備好budget投入但是央行呢讓我們這幾年呢利率都維持在高檔可以嗎可以這樣嗎不可能啦不可能好那我們來問一下但是最近呢FED說要再降息了那你認為台灣的股市美股大為激勵啊FED降息美股大為激勵你覺得台灣的股市的表現跟你央行降不降息有沒有關聯 |
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好像比較沒有沒有什麼關聯那你認為台灣的股市的表現主要是考量什麼因素我們的台灣的股市說實在的是跟著大部分都是跟著跟著台積電走跟著台積電走台積電這些科技類股也是跟著美國的科技類股 |
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科技類股所以說如果FIT降息有可能熱錢通通會被吸回去嗎還是說這些錢會跑到台灣來專利差很難講 沒有一定好往下看所以說如果你剛講的其實高科技是我們的優勢股那麼外資是我台股或者跟FIT是我降息有沒有關聯 |
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我舉個例 上上週一啦也有啦 應該也有也有 但是你看看那個星期一就是國慶日那天川普又宣布要跟中國提高關稅怕美國股市大跌大家預期隔天到10月12號台股開盤的時候會大跌有沒有大跌 台積利有沒有大跌沒有啊 |
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沒有啊是散戶啊500萬的零股戶把台積電撐上來耶所以表示這個股市台灣的股市不見得跟著美國的股市走美國的股市雖然跟FIT降息有關但是台灣的股市表現我覺得委員的那個對股票的那個知識比我還強 |
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謝謝誇獎但是你也不買股票我也不買股票你講的頭頭是道所以說我要請教一下但現在有一個問題來了外匯存體再度改寫歷史新高多少超過6000億了那怎麼辦現在我們央行的業務報告說你們要怎樣要運用外匯存體的投資運用效益考量到對美元的匯率變動所以你要維持市場的秩序跟進場條件講了半天我們想問的是美國 |
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FED他未降息 熱錢就跑來台灣了那如果他再降息他會不會造成外資願意加碼台股甚至會影響到匯率有沒有這個可能 央行怎麼因應我剛剛 問了三個問題譬如說九月份的時候美國降息 |
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大家都會認為美國降息的時候美元會弱但是之後9月以後好像也沒有弱最近它都很強所以也就是說這個猜測好像也是不大對所以我覺得外資所以這個也是我們困擾的地方就是說外資的行為說實在是很難去捉摸的 |
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是很難去捉摸的那這樣的話那是我們另外關心的議題了那這樣的話可是呢又有委員啊在院會的時候問院長卓院長說跟美國的關稅談判會不會討論到匯率 |
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跟他的關稅談判好像沒有談到沒有涉及到匯率可是我們看到了你的報告說說本年上半年本場進場累計買匯會不會被美國列為你在操作匯率啊沒有啊不會沒有不會確定不會我覺得不會啊你覺得不會還是美國覺得不會還是川普覺得不會如果按照他的三項標準的話 |
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我們絕對不會好但是我們有一個問題是國內比較關心的往下看其實台灣的壽險業常常有必別錯配的問題所以我們在國內的資金成本取得高保單的費率高國內的利率低是要進行海外投資對不對這是目前我國壽險的普遍困境所以他都要換匯 |
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換匯他還要去每年投入很多避險成本購買避險的商品他有獲利還要買外匯的準備金最近金管會跟壽行要到討論說外匯準備金的制度調整要怎麼看然後他每年投入那麼多的避險成本那還要去買購買避險商品 |
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總裁你了解這是我們目前受險業的處境吧我基本上我知道你了解嗎好那現在有個問題來了現在呢昨天我們看到了這個金管會的主委彭主委拍了一個什麼亞資中心的投資論壇有沒有看到新聞報導有看到嗎你知不支持我們卓院長推動的亞資中心 |
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当然支持那你也支持我们的兆元投资国家发展方案我也支持好 那我们来看一下我们这个兆元国家投资方案跟亚投资产管理中心就想说必须要我们的金融商品我们的金融业者有一个金融商品这个金融商品透过台币在工建长照还有永续产业用外币的表现放到这里来然后我们有需要外币进来投资是不是这样子 |
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那外資進來他是用美元進來啊那他有匯率的風險啊那是不是他也要購買這些避險的商品會購買避險的商品那央行有沒有開放這些匯率的避險商品有啊當然有啊說來聽聽他說將涉外匯業務將槍央行意見我們看一下 |
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這個銀行進駐地方資產管理專區的事辦業務這金黃會說的他從今年的1月4月5月到7月他這裡面講了這麼多事情但是業者只要問到說社外會業務將洽央行意見辦理我之前也問了金黃會主委這些外資進來需要 |
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匯率的避險商品央行有沒有同意開放可以啊可以啊事實上我跟委員報告這個就是說彭主委他非常積極的來就是說來發展你支持嗎當然支持很好所以他涉及到外匯的我總覺得 |
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彭卓偉他都會而且他很謙虛他都會帶隊來我們中央銀行跟事實上我們也去到他那邊彼此互相來討論怎麼讓他具體來講他提出的訴求對中央銀行都會配合是這樣喔確定喔確定 |
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確定因為我看你們央行跟今晚會的表達對於匯率的避險商品的作為你們比較保守一點他們期待比較開放一點我想是這樣 委員你也不要就是說保守就是拒絕 |
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保守的意思就是說我開放但是會在安全的情況之下如果說我開放然後是非常有危險的時候你覺得中央銀行會開放嗎在還沒答應之前都不是拒絕都是保守 |
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不是 我們來是open的好 那我也請主席再看所以說這個事情我要拜託下次彭主委為了雅資中心還有社外的外匯業務跟你求婚的時候你不要 |
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謝謝 |