| IVOD_ID |
164622 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164622 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T13:09:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T13:16:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:30 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4da8c223f0bc2ff34e5e072f7c27276b8ae93e73b30866c1936b36baeae8c032c655ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:09:41 - 13:16:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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三分钟谢谢主席有请这个经济部总部长台电台电董事长总经理 |
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第一个问题请教台美关税谈判总统说法是20%的占行税率会调降另外就是说没有不叠加另外争取232的条款最惠国待遇这是三个可能的方向他当然是好事他没有提到他会用什么形式来签订是白纸黑字还是口头承诺还是开一个记者会 |
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因为日本跟韩国就是缺乏这个白纸黑字后来就衍生后面的一些纷争我们会不会有白纸黑字这是第一个问题第二个问题是说没有提到扩大对美的投资跟采购这部分部长您掌握的状况怎么样报告委员公布的形势可能我们双方面也还要做一些讨论但是我知道的是会有一个文本 |
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就是白紙黑字对对对会签有两方的这个协商代表共同投印同意这样的白紙黑字对有白紙黑字好另外就是说没有提到的是这个扩大对美的投资跟采购这部分您了解状况是怎么样 |
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因為日韓一個五千五一個三千五投資的部分我們跟日韓是不太一樣我們投資的話是廠商會過去投資條件有沒有改變就是之前的跟他們討論我們投資的方案當然不是日韓模式我們只有台灣模式對我們很清楚這個有沒有改變對我們很清楚的是廠商要去美國投資的話一定要有訂單然後他也可以賺錢所以要投資項目什麼是比較清楚的 |
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所以不會像日韓有一個額度出來嗎對 日韓它比較跟我們不一樣它就是一筆錢然後要放在那邊但至於要投資什麼所以我們確定的不是日韓模式我們不一樣可能是這個產業鏈過去或者是一個複製什麼我們產業園區是這種概念我們是說確定要投資什麼項目 |
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才要去投資才有這個預算才有這個錢確定有別於日韓模式對他們不一樣他們是先一筐一筆錢然後再決定投資什麼第二個問題啊這個反對核能反核是我基本理念重返核能發電是因為產業的需求我做一個政治工作者這個我必須要堅持我的理念之外也要考慮到產業發展的需求 |
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反就是反核跟反核反對的反跟反回的反回核電就是重新用核能作為發電的一個一個一個途徑但不可能就是由我上次反對這個重啟這個舊的核電廠這40年以上當然風險高但是新的核能技術總統也說這可以去考慮包括SMR |
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SMR 很多國家用SMR另外這個未來你這個核分裂改成用核融合這個當然需要很長的時間目前經濟部或者台電有沒有開始在進行所謂SMR的相關的這個規劃跟研究甚至更遠端更遠期的這個所謂核融合的技術那個董事長 |
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報告委員就是說其實我們現在大概都用SMR在講但是事實上它很多發電形式都會改變設計的反應爐的設計方法都不同那其實台電是我們的核能部門是一直都在follow這個世界的發展的趨勢那我們也會來做人才的養成的工作所以我們可能會用SMR作為未來核能發電的一個形式 |
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我这样说因为台电基本上是这一些设备的应用者那现在谈的都是这些设备的开发者就我们现在讲说如果SMR你现在讲New Scale这些都是这些设备的开发者那其实台湾在合工这一块就是说如果我们要做要做这一个投入他可能要做更多的一些准备那不过台电公司作为应用技术应用者其实我们在follow这些应用的发展方向是 |
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另外最後一個問題想提醒一下這個部長就是產業發展不均衡股市上三萬點基本上是AI跟半導體先撐起來但是傳統產業比它的股價是比起過去20年最低的時候所以發生兩極化AI半導體相關產業就是一路上漲但是傳統的製造業金屬 鉤金 鋼鐵石化等等苦不堪言我們必須針對傳統製造業你要轉型有個最新計畫 |
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否則一個產業兩個世界一個世界兩種產業完全不同的面貌你要看到比較需要幫忙的那一面是 我們一定 你要具體提出振興方案所以我們為什麼要下鄉 |
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貼近這些產業 要知道他們可能受到 加強不夠要有一個完整的戰略的方案 怎麼樣在兩三年或者短中長期計畫短期一年 中期三年 長期五年怎麼樣針對個別產業 標實化 後建 鋼鐵怎麼樣讓他們升級 怎麼樣提升他們AI種種讓他們的競爭力能夠維持我們短期競爭就是保住定端跟金流 不要斷 |
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人才跟技术的升级转型这个就是我们加码的地方一个是短期间至少要这样但是你长期间你如果不转型的话不升级的话可能还是会遭受到很大的挑战所以还是有这样的步骤在进行中 |
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還有很多的問題 因為實際上的關係另外關於新達海基的轉型 部裡面要去關心因為今天中剛沒有來 溫馨也在新達海基過去在海基 在我的選區已經虧損六十億那你現在到底轉型 轉型計畫哪裡 方向到底具體作為是哪裡並沒有提出來的 都很抽象你不能荒廢 閒置在那邊 你那個租金一個月一百萬 |
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所以这部分尽快提出转移或者你要直接退场好那委员我们过一段时间就把这个书面资料提供给您参考要多久这我已经讲了快半年了下个月下个月尽快了因为不能再拖了好谢谢 |