| IVOD_ID |
164585 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164585 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-36-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T11:37:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T11:45:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4da0f95fe518428004b82630fd8ea06a53683c966d97180d5d2e766b101dd82558b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:30 - 11:45:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請司法院秘書長列席說明立法計畫，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 請複密署長好 有請王複密委員早安複密法庭直播本來應該是司法改革的一大步而且在所有的民調裡面大概都有超過七成以上的絕對多數的民眾要求要法庭直播立法院也三讀通過了結果你們現在不只踐踏了立法院 |
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你們還踐踏的民意跟七成以上的民眾對著幹我現在就要進一步的提醒你法庭直播在台灣早就有啦你為什麼比以前還倒退路在2000年你是這麼資深的司法人員你也知道嗎2000年蘇建和案的時候台灣就首開先例 |
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在法庭外面架設的電視機當場就現場直播的結果過了25年了同樣一個司法院同樣一個司法院比25年還倒退嚕把好不容易三讀通過的法庭直播用黑布把它蓋起來以前國防部啊 |
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在紅中秋案的時候 連基礎的那個錄影都不願意公佈 大家笑他說是國防部 蓋了黑布不是部會的布 是黑布的布現在司法院變成什麼 也蓋了黑布嗎我給你看一下 來 我們看一下當初當初怎麼做 法庭直播 |
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這個是2000年11月16號那時候只有老三台那時候我們做法庭直播開庭的時候在外面架一部電視機所有的記者 攝影記者就直接第一時間你怎麼倒退路25年前你是什麼資深的從業人員同一個司法委員為什麼過了25年了 |
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我們往公開透明再走 結果你們還抱持著這個保守跟傳統而且倒退入了25年 這是第一個點 第二個點更嚴重喔你看 我為什麼今天給你看這個沒有立法的時候 台灣都已經可以有法庭直播了現在立法完之後 你用黑布袋又把它蓋起來你看看你的那個辦法你這樣怎麼對得起司法改革呢 對得起人民呢 |
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柯文哲都不怕啊民眾黨也不怕啊司法院跟檢察官到底在怕什麼怕任何不正訊問誘導 有脅迫有一些不法的行為公之於術嗎為什麼連這個東西都要蓋呢我剛給你看的是以前來 我們來看全世界 |
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全世界各大洲都有法輪直播啊在亞洲 新加坡 南韓印尼 巴基斯坦連你們常在批評的中國印度 都有啊連非洲 埃及 南非南非共同體都有啊我們台灣的司法有比 |
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印尼印度還落後有比埃及有比南非還落後嗎民主黨我們台灣的司法的公開透明度比這些國家都還落後嗎我們不是一直都是走路有風我們是魔幻聲嗎當好不容易往前跨了一步那到底司法院在怕什麼 |
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警察官在怕什麼 有什麼見不得人的事情 |
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今天副秘書長都講不出話還是不知道怎麼講我現在回答嗎請說我已經問你幾個月了你都是不敢回答還是不願回答因為委員一直繼續講所以我不知道我不敢打斷你請說是首先第一點2000年那個蘇建和案它並不是一個法庭直播它是一個延伸法庭那至於說它延伸法庭的那個做法當時事實上因為沒有一個立法依據就是很多那個做法是不是可以再進一步檢討就是可以 |
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等一下我時間已經到了所以有兩個重點嘛對不對你說延伸直播那你至少做到這一個啊是不是這是你現在比這個還特鐵路耶它就是一個法庭直播的型態嘛它等於是第一時間出來的時候我們對著攝影機拍嘛那你至少做到這一點你連這一點都還做不到怎麼會這麼離譜呢好那更嚴重了我跟你講今天我聽了一個早上你們在請答我是媒體人出身的 |
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這本來我們的法律裡面就明定啊有牽涉到人權或者一些機密的你就可以遮蔽啊我自己檢查現在有多久你稍微delay的大概30秒甚至10秒你都可以處理啦該蓋的東西 該遮蓋的東西都可以那台灣沒那麼浪漠欸你們講的好像洪水猛獸 |
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你技術上也做得到 對不對以前都已經有 全世界也有從你民調去看七成以上的民眾結果你們現在今天到今天還在這邊硬拗我們是五前憲法的國家嘛立法院非常尊重司法院而且認為這是一個進步的立法 公開透明所以我們給了你很多的彈性跟尊重結果你們現在要踐踏的立法院跟名利又是對撞的 |
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馬上要審預算啦 我跟你講 這個一定在預算裡面我們會好好反映出這次司法院踐踏的這個立法院也跟踐踏民意這個回去我再好好想一想 我也對著所有司法院的好朋友們喊話 |
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當司法改革向前的一步在改革跟公開透明還有特特路25年還比不上印尼印度比不上埃及跟南非公開透明度而且違反了70以上民眾這個需求跟他們的這個期待這樣的司法有辦法得到人民的這個認同嗎司法已經非常脆弱了好 回去再好好思考 好不好 好 謝謝 |