| IVOD_ID |
164521 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164521 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T09:28:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T09:36:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4dad80d04bbfe094044c0c14dc0092bf1ba83c966d97180d5d2005dafe6a1b373055ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:28:25 - 09:36:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
3.黃被提名人葳威-立法院第11屆第4會期交通、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。
【10月20日（星期一）依序分別審查蔣被提名人榮先、程被提名人明修；10月22日（星期三）依序分別審查黃被提名人葳威、羅被提名人慧雯。】
【10月20日及22日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 請黃貝提名人 請黃提名人 黃貝提名人你好我想黃貝提名人到立法院來其實 |
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我不知道你習不習慣這個每一個委員基本上都有他的主張跟想法 |
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那譬如說我剛剛坐在下面我就聽到說要他這NCC應該要獨立自主新聞自由要廣納社會各意見等等其實原則都對啦其實我也都支持但問題在哪裡以後你當選就會知道了就是你如果跟某一個政黨的意見不一樣或某個立委意見不一樣他就認為你不自主不獨立或者沒有新聞自由這個就是難處啦這個就是難處所以大原則方向我想 |
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在這邊都不會有問題但實際當選之後你的決策就必須要面臨台灣多元聲音的挑戰這個才是問題所在這是我剛剛有感而發不是我要問的題目是好 貝婷媛我想過去妳的工作經驗裡面妳對於如同剛剛今天妳的報告我有聽就如同妳是實際 |
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在第一線面對孩童面對我們的長輩那您也提到資安的問題所以本席長期關注這個問題我認為網際網路的發展這個特別像AI時代的深層連我算是很謹慎的人我都曾經傳影片給我的太太跟小孩子我們家的這個群組 |
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然後我的小孩子就很強烈的指正我老爸這是AI這是AI影片不容易啦特別是像我每天在這個領域裡面接觸我都很謹慎很小心避免傳播假消息避免傳播這種AI生成的不正確的這個影片但我都還 |
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可能會犯這個錯誤那不要講一般我們社會上百工百業 士農工商的我們這些長輩或者孩童那你在第一線的經驗裡面如果未來你擔任NCC委員你有什麼樣的具體做法你覺得對於這種避免讓長輩跟孩童成為治安的受害者有什麼樣的具體的想法或者建議沒有 |
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報告委員我剛剛在簡單說明的時候就是有講到我們最近做的小學三年級到大學四年級全台灣的調查發現這當中屬於資安網路安全的部分有可能來自於家庭之間的教養還有包含來自於這個社會規範的建制 |
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那以及這個孩子自己的選擇權結果我們發現當他的資安素養越高的時候其實是來自於這個孩子的選擇權是比較高的規範對他的影響他會答但是其實那個相關性是最低的好那我覺得能夠做的是什麼呢就是我們在預防教育要繼續的加強那特別在法律的 |
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這些跨領域的教育另外就是現在因為也有AI其實在做防護機構的時候那時候就已經可以用影像做識別辨別當中一些不雅的內容現在透過AI科技可以做一些些的攔阻但是可能還是會有漏網之魚在這一塊我印象當中行政院有個打詐的團隊其實有一陣子我記得他們的表現是非常好 |
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那但是因為現在的資訊無孔不入所以的確是有很多新興的挑戰那我覺得這個部分就像我剛有講到在今年6月的挪威他有談到各個國家都面臨一樣的這種挑戰所以需要做一個 |
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所謂的數位治理的一個共同建構的一個安全網那我希望台灣我們自己做之外我們也要跟鄰近的一些亞太地區的友邦一起來關心那甚至進入到這個全球化一起守護的行列好 |
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這個打詐也好面對數位治理也好其實NCC都是其中的一員當然速發部更是責無旁貸但是我希望如果未來你有機會進到NCC擔任委員我希望發揮你的專業就我其實看重你的地方是因為你有實際在基層面對這個問題的這些經驗那其實這是很寶貴的因為我們很多的專家學者事實上他在理論層次他不知道 |
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訂出來的法規就是說我們除了透過教育讓大家更明瞭其實我們很期待政府能夠有什麼樣的治理面能夠透過法治的方式譬如說什麼叫法治方式譬如說AI的影片應不應該要標示 |
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就是應該強制標示類似像這樣這個叫做制度面叫法規面那我們希望就是說在未來的這個數位治理NCC成為議員而你又是這議員當中的其中一個角色我希望你能夠發揮你的所長然後堅持你的所長認為說不能讓長輩跟孩子成為治安的受害者你看連抖音的執行長都自己講說不允許他的小孩子玩 |
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這個就是我們在你在傳播領域你是學有專精那你也知道我們對於電視電影就傳統這個媒體的分類分級我們其實管制得相當的清楚什麼東西是孩子可以看什麼東西不可以看我們其實做一定程度高度的這個監理但 |
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網路的平台就我們相對落後許多那當然這個跟科技的日新也有一定程度的關係就簡單講你法令跟制度就跟不上人家發展的速度但是我們因為不能因為這樣所以也就忽略了 |
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作為一個政府在數位治理該扮演的一個角色那個把關的角色那這第二個也同時會衍生第二個問題這個問題就是當你在同樣的媒體通路在所謂現在的影像媒體的這樣通路裡面我們在網路上幾乎沒有什麼管制但我們對傳統媒體又高度管制 |
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所以這個就會產生在市場上競爭的不公平這個問題我也問過主委就像我們現在OTT我們幾乎它在海外也可以進來它在哪裡都可以然後我們的這個衛星電視的這個像Cable好了我們管制的非常嚴格因為當時它是最大所以那個歷史因素裡面我們必須要讓這個巨獸受到約束但現在它已經這個大恐龍已經快要變成小蜥蜴了 |
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但是他還是高度監管可是另外一隻新的大恐龍我們卻看起來並沒有太多的方法可以約束他所以這個就是會對產業產生不公平競爭我們講管制很好但我們也要講發展 |
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所以我也希望你未來以傳媒的這個專家的角色進到NCC之後能夠對於這個產業的發展過去我也為體育台講過話開過協調會為什麼因為體育台都快活不下去了這個對我們體育迷這個影響很大所以你看我們曾經做過一次讓體育台在廣告上面能夠適度的開放讓他們得以存活不然我們其實為了 |
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廣告為了限制他的很多東西所以他越來越難活但如果你是在其他平台上他可能沒有這個限制所以這個就是我講的要發展所以希望未來有機會再來繼續救教怎麼樣讓產業的發展能夠得以一個比較在一個公平競爭的角度底下謝謝蔡會長 |