| IVOD_ID |
164520 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164520 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T09:18:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T09:27:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4da9398f257c11ad308c0c14dc0092bf1ba83c966d97180d5d2005dafe6a1b373055ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:18:32 - 09:27:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
3.黃被提名人葳威-立法院第11屆第4會期交通、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。
【10月20日（星期一）依序分別審查蔣被提名人榮先、程被提名人明修；10月22日（星期三）依序分別審查黃被提名人葳威、羅被提名人慧雯。】
【10月20日及22日二天一次會】） |
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主席抱歉我先會議詢問我知道說下午才是羅惠文委員但是因為現在已經在場我能不能請兩位被提名人一起上台我簡單問個問題這個不行分別為之這樣羅被提名人在現場不就知道我們要問什麼問題好吧 |
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我就簡單問個問題確認一下我想這絕對不會涉及隱私也不會涉及那但是兩位被提名的人不能一起回答我個問題這樣子這個是憲法規定的大法官解釋好都搬出大法官了我想我們也就不再爭論沒有問題我尊重我們的這個委員會委員來我們請黃被提名的人請黃被提名的人 |
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委員早安貝提名人早安本期要問的問題其實很簡單如果貝提名人可能下午可以再準備一下什麼時候接受到行政院院長的徵詢說來擔任NCC委員是 剛剛有回答過前面的兩個簡訊我擔心是詐騙沒有理後來是業界的老師提醒說在聯絡我記得要接電話所以正式聯絡是五月初我接到的電話五月初 五月五號嗎 |
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沒有5月1號然後後來直接就約5月2號禮拜五上午中午吧在行政院見面了解所以也是5月的時候才跟院長碰面就碰這一次對那他就開門見山就講說要您當NCC的委員是前面兩個我以為是詐騙的電話其實就已經在談這件事因為我覺得很奇怪所以是院長跟您通電話 |
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是行政院的電話行政院的電話所以不是院長跟您通電話但是您之後跟院長碰面對OK好很奇怪這個我不知道羅貝提名人他的時間有沒有早於5月以前但是如果說大家去看這個新聞的話4月底院長都說名單已經抵定但是我們現在問了主委貝提名主委貝提名副主委以及的第三位委員都說是5月才接收到諮詢 |
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那不知道是到底是誰說謊這第一 第二那五月你就答應啦那到七月三十一號才把名單提出來是誰的問題因為外界一直講是說有委員生涯規劃跟要調整教職等等的關係是您嗎這個我不清楚但是我其實是四月底是不是您其他人不清楚沒關係但是不是您是不是您的問題而造成說我們行政院必須要等到七月三十一才能送出來 |
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我不知道是不是你的問題其他的問題你管不著但不是你的問題我可以這樣請教我覺得那個時候我們的確在五月初的時候大家都在一個學期間其實現在課程如果做任何調動學生其實他們的學習權益會受到影響所以那個時候的確是需要做一些的整個的調課貝提名人現在還沒有上任就已經幫政府擦脂抹粉了 |
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NCC的委員好像不是要幫政府插字磨粉那叫做行政院發言人那我只是要問說你如果說5月1號2號就已經答應了那行政院到7月31才提名出來人選這是責任要釐清嘛那責任釐清我們才能對外說明不然說大家都一直講是說為什麼不審議我們也想問啊為什麼行政院不送名單嘛 |
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那現在離得非常清楚啊因為你們是5月就接到徵詢而且5月就答應但沒想到行政院731才送名單嘛中間什麼考量 |
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如果不是專業考量就是政治考量只有這兩種考量來 被提名的人問一下你比較具體的一個部分我想被政府提名來擔任一個要職我覺得這都是一種榮耀但是某種程度上也代表一種責任因為你要秉持專業各界都在看那我們現在直接請教因為您過去在這個廣播傳播學院等等都有非常資歷完整 |
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有跨黨派委員現在提出衛星廣播電視法的修法希望捍衛新聞自由能夠來世界錄法就是對照上一屆NCC慶祝難說的狀況並且用關台的名義把特定的電視台給新聞台給直接關掉那其實本席的態度立場非常簡單任何的新聞台他有立場一定會有每個人都有立場 |
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但是你不能逾越你的新聞專業就是你要查證那還有新聞自由言論自由是每個人的一個底線你不能用官台換照的一個方式來迫使某一個聲音直接消失今天即便是對付三立民是綠營長期罵我們藍營比較多的但如果說用這樣的一個方式我也不認同 |
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所以我們現在有提出說衛星廣播電視法的修法希望未來NCC沒有辦法再以換照來要求或是閒置新聞自由請教您是不是支持修法來廢除NCC換照的權利 |
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其實這方面的聲音是非常多的因為我們在傳播學院研究所上課常常跟同學討論所以您的專業是我的專業的部分是這樣因為我其實在做iWIN的過程我就是在協調各縣市政府還有各方利益關心人然後一起達成共識所以我覺得委員的這個建議其實也是民意當中的一部分因此 |
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如果有機會的話我希望能夠更大廣泛的資周善道 長納雅言然後找到這當中的平衡點那我自己的立場其實我在做公共行政的時候我不應該自己立場太重因為我需要公平OK 所以庭民人我可以解釋因為您剛剛講到要找平衡點那換言之你就認為說現在的法令是過於偏頗嗎 |
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是不是過於偏頗傾向其中一端也因此他不夠平衡所以你也認為是說如果我們這樣子的修法也許他會又拉到另外一端所以要找一個平衡點但是至少目前現行的狀況以上一屆NCC也被人家詬病並且讓大家沒有辦法信服被戲稱為張CC最主要原因就是因為他權力太大可以用官台換照來迫使一個新聞自由言論自由被消失是不是 |
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這個事件我覺得它是新聞史當中一個很特別的事件我自己都整個記錄下來很大的污點我不太確定是不是污點因為我並沒有進到那一次的委員會裡面所以如果說假設你在這個委員會裡面你會允許這樣事情發生嗎因為請容許我提醒那個時候七名NCC的委員有兩名NCC的委員是 |
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堅決反對甚至兩名NCC委員是到最後用書面的資料表達他們反對但當時的主委沒有投票是採取的是有沒有人反對兩位反對那剩下五位沒有表達意見剩下四位沒有表達意見主委就把他列為是同意就通過了所以到最後就關台成功您可以接受這樣的一個過程嗎 |
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因為這是您告訴我這樣的一個資訊可是我看到被提名人所以7票通過所以我不知道是哪一個資訊是沒有是5票通過所以第一年資訊不夠完整跟正確那第二是被提名人你要接這個位置你沒有 |
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去了解一下這個公司的歷史背景跟爭議點嗎就像我們現在一般人要進去面試一家公司你總是你也會看說這家公司過去的這個待遇 薪資狀況甚至爭議的議題你未來會面對的燙手三欲或是未來面對的挑戰 |
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主席我其實是有去查立法院本席我是委員我其實有去查立法院的這叫做法院的判決書有兩個是相關爭議事件那後來高等法院是把他給再退回給台北地院要求他重新去審議所以我覺得在這個過程中我們需要尊重法院最後的判決 |
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好 您看一下啦NCC委員的開會如果我印象沒錯因為我手邊現在沒有在但我印象沒錯應該是第999次的開會就是討論到中天新聞台關台與否而網路上 |
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通常會的網站都有逐字稿的會議記錄那可以看得很清楚我有一說一有二說二這也確實是事實那我只期待新任NCC委員三大期待一 嚴守獨立機關的專業性二 嚴守新聞自由言論自由三 兼顧社會責任的參與跟主動性這是我對每一位提名的NCC委員的期待好嗎好 謝謝 |