| IVOD_ID |
164467 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164467 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-21T09:01:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-21T09:17:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ad817af50721993f24c7fcd946e5ba09ed3e39e9a6cc0a6183c966d97180d5d2d104b08215f3295d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:01:43 - 09:17:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第5次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境六委員會報告審查行政院函請審議「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案」案等案。（10月17日）二、10月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。（10月21日）） |
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謝謝主席請卓院長跟運動部麻煩請卓院長交通部長備詢運動部運動部長備詢蔡委員好院長早安部長早安這個部長剛上任幾天了 |
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部長上任幾天了一個月多一點感覺怎麼樣蠻刺激的拿奧運的金牌比較容易還是當運動部長比較容易都不容易如果硬要比較出一個你喜歡哪一個我都蠻喜歡挑戰的那本席就給你一些挑戰 |
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這個上一次的總質詢本席在這裡因為那時候運動部還沒有成立所以當時的教育部跟卓院長都有承諾一些事項但因為有一個很大的變化這個變化就是財政收支法案通過讓中央補助地方政府興建體育設施的能量大減 |
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院長你記得我們在談過我們的優化全民運動與賽會環境計畫這是113年到116年的計畫這個計畫總共經費是64億其中興建自由車場當時的體育署規劃是高雄台南跟台中三個場館要興建計畫上也寫三案這個三案當時的預算是不足的 |
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所以就繼續進行溝通協調部長你接手之後這三個案子要不要繼續做這部分跟委員您報告我們認為現行在國際賽事是250的賽道在台灣是330的賽道不合國際標準所以我們希望運動部站在保護運動員的所有權益所以我們希望說來爭取你提願 院長 |
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運動部有提願因為希望行政院來協助部長這三個案子要不要繼續來推動如果運動部現在的考量能夠跟國際接軌這對我們未來的選手絕對是一種正面的一個幫助所以在這個情況底下我們願意在財政排除各種困難底下極力的全力的來協助部長為什麼我持續追問這個案子是因為 |
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今年我在預算上看不到預算的呈顯上面我們要繼續推動這三個自行車廠的案子所以我才本席利用今天特別來問因為馬上預算已經送到立法院來了明年如果通過年底通過明年就要實施了但這三個案子本席並沒有看到他的預算所以本席才會今天來請教院長是不是明年我們還有其他 |
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預算可能不是用這個預算科目來支出的情況底下明年就會開始推動包括先來發包規劃設計我們在優化全民運動賽會會場這個項目底下有變的預算這個會向下有變的預算那些有包括台中是清水現在清水在本席的故鄉那應該會納入相關如果沒有的話我看運動部有沒有其他的預算可以來支援 |
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那個院長本席給你建議啦三個案子一定要推就如同部長所講的這個沒有辦法跟國際接軌而且體育署規劃那麼久三個地點都是地方政府同意支持要做的但因為收支方法的改變所以你們的重點在於跟地方政府溝通那支付的比例是什麼 |
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行政院不可以改變態度一定要三個案子都要做因為如同部長講很重要國家在推動運動場館的改善的決心沒有改變但 |
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你把中央的錢都拿光了那當然我重新跟你談說我中央願意出但我有多少錢那希望地方政府負擔多少這個應該要朝向這樣方向來做中央絕對不可以退縮啦對 我們會按照財政的極致來對 但是中央還是願意全力負擔大眼那個部長跟院長 這是中央的態度我們支持體育 |
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運動部成立第一件案子就先把自行車車管不做了這怎麼自行車廠不做了這不是笑話嗎第二個那個棒球的部分棒球場館的部分上一次我們也謝謝院長支持的這個 |
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組一軍的場館支持的3億啦其實這場館說一軍其實就是支持地方政府啦因為這些場館都是地方政府的另外呢我們其他的這個棒球的場館總共加起來我們支持的9個場館也就是我們支持的9個地方政府去修繕這個場館那本席看到這個案子預算也沒有增加但是呢上一次我也跟 |
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院長報告過這個澄清湖球場那個LED的螢幕不但小而且幾乎是看不到了 |
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那這個其實是很荒謬台灣是科技大廠我們的面板實在是製造能力全世界有名的但我們自己的運動場館一個LED的螢幕我先不講大小它已經夠小了而且還已經完全衰退看不到內紋了所以上次我有跟院長提希望來支持高雄地方政府來把這個LED場館的面板把它改過 |
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部長上任之後 院長這應該沒有改變吧不會改變 因為一個場館如果有一個大的螢幕啊那看起來就是蠻科技感這個也是啦 不分藍綠這也是地方政府要部分負擔嘛這不是中央 場館是地方政府的嘛但是方向一定要做好不好 這個不要改變請部長來研究看看如何來緊述協助 澄清五方九黨改善對 這是挑戰嘛 就是這些問題你都要去溝通協調 才能夠落實 |
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本席在上一次總質詢跟院長達成的共識第三個就是棒球博物館我想部長你也很支持我知道你私下有告訴我你也很支持但是支持一定要有方向 |
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你一定要有態度而且要有步驟什麼時候要開始所以呢今年的預算我一樣看不到那院長部長今年的預算裡面是不是可以開始著手有初步的計畫譬如說開始找地啦開始要進行相關的可行性評估啊有沒有這樣的計畫 |
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明年開始我覺得應該是整體運動的博物館我們希望說在保留這些過去我們前輩們的所有運動前輩們的所有的文物那包含我們之前去到了花蓮我們也去積極的去做文物的搜尋跟保留那我覺得這對我們運動員來講都是非常有認同感的 |
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認同感的當然在博物館的部分我們希望說在最近我們會積極去做來不管是找地還是這部分我們都有慢慢在規劃部長我只是提醒你這個理念跟方向我想部長你是運動員出身絕對不會有問題但現在的問題是我們面對政府預算有限運動部是賴總統重要的方向 |
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那怎麼樣在部會當中跟行政院能夠爭取到你要落實你的想法跟理念的預算我想這個是一個你面對的挑戰那其次就是你要很多的場館場地甚至都在地方政府你怎麼中央跟地方做好協調能夠把事情做好我想這個就是剛剛部長講為什麼當部長不容易他的挑戰在哪裡 |
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國家史上從中華民國史上我想沒有比這個階段更重視體育更重視運動也沒有像國人至少從我出生到現在國人沒有像此刻大家那麼愛運動你看那個健身房一間一間的開你看大家對於國際的賽事連過去台灣明明足球不是太熱門但你看看過去可以做的 |
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現在都不可以做了過去英雄苟且的現在都不可以 為什麼因為民眾太重視了所以你看這個足球協會的理事長也要下台了這在過去都不會發生的啦他就坐在那裡就不會動了 |
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但現在不一樣了所以部長你的挑戰就在這裡這些都是所有的體育迷所有的國人期盼運動部能夠在這些事項過去成科沒有辦法改變的事項不管是國人過去不重視或者政府不重視那現在都不是了總統重視民眾更重視所以這些問題都挑戰著運動部部長你同意嗎 |
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我認為這個民眾參與運動的這個部分風氣越來越好那我們當然希望說有更多的民眾來參與我們運動讓更多人看見運動可以 那明年就三件事情一定要記住本席就是你沒有監督我就是繼續問啦 |
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第一個就是棒球博物館第二個就是運動場館的設施改的興建特別是棒球場館第三個就是自由車場好不好這三個部長你要記住下次見面還是這三個題目如果你沒有進度的話我還是這三個題目 |
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謝謝委員 這個場面非常難得一位是帶領國家棒球得到世界金牌的一個是兩度奧運金牌的部長在這裡對話表示我國的棒球政策從這裡開始應該要有更強力的支持政府一定會來支持年輕朋友跟國人最能夠團結一致的運動賽事我們全力把它推動所以場地的設備一定要先把它健全起來不然運動部會做到謝謝院長 |
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今天因為適用立委的身份所以李部長一定感受到本席比較嚴厲啦平常當會長的時候我都在拜託你的今天角色不一樣我必須要扮演好監督你們的角色那接下來呢 部長請回我請那個金管會跟經濟部麻煩請金管會經濟部長備詢 |
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院長 這個關稅的協議跟美方的這個談判我們還持續在進行當中政府院長率領的談判團隊還一直跟美方保持很積極的正面的接觸那整個景氣產業這個產業在國際上發展的這種集中度非常的高就像全球現在半導體跟AI非常的這個 |
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成長力道非常強大台灣其實反映到台灣也可以明顯發現所以我們有整個產業發展趨勢沒有辦法均衡的問題再加上美中貿易談判的問題讓我們台中我們的工具機產業跟金屬加工的這些製造業面臨很大的挑戰 |
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那我也看了所有的資料我們也很支持包括這些相關的政策包括這些相關的法規甚至剛剛通過的這個5700億的這個預算本席都非常支持但是這個支持我想主委跟部長都有提出一些方法但是這個落實到基層特別是落實到我們 |
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這個台中最多的微型企業他可能員工人數十人上下十幾個甚至更小的他們會面臨到很多訊息的不對等啦譬如說我知道經濟部廣布長你們有成立馬上辦中心對不對馬上辦中心很重要一項業務就是協調銀行不可以雨天收傘是不是 |
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那現在到底有多少雨天被收傘打電話到馬上辦中心說他被雨天收傘從成立到現在或者說從美中四月份到現在我們是一再的跟銀行公會一再講就是說基本上他如果繳息正常就待展延的話是可以的自動就會展延六個月到一年所以基本上他是不會收傘 |
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我知道政策不會收閃就像很多我們在規定我們在做相關住宅貸款的時候我們也要求過去已經開始房子已經買到的不可以一定要持續給他貸還是很多這種案子所以我在談的其實不是政策不對也不是我們政府不關心 |
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而是政策落實到中小企業裡面是不是中小企業他知道這個訊息第二個有沒有這樣的還是持續因為本席作為民意代表我在民間還是多多少少會遇到他很擔心他被雨天收散因為銀行已經找他要談縮減他的額度甚至就有貸款要還清的時候我們現在規定也可以展延半年 |
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那這些到底你們再透過馬上辦中心或者透過銀行端兩邊你們都應該去徹底的去了解是不是有這樣的案例案例怎麼處理我們來了解可以嗎可以做到嗎所以本席剛剛才問你們說你們成立馬上辦中心一定如果他真的被收散他就問嘛他就會打電話來這個才是我們對政策落實到特別是微型企業 |
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上市公司上公司你都不用擔心他們的資源很多但我們這種台中這種小型微型的企業這個才是大家會覺得為什麼他們總是覺得政府的政策照顧不到他們 |
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那就是因為這個中間的落差沒有辦法把它填補沒有填補的結果他就永遠感受不到政策的善意跟預算的善意這個兩位可以做得到沒問題可以給本席一個報告到底你們的平台上面有多少這種案例每一個案例怎麼被對待跟處理本席希望了解這樣好不好這個我一定要代表我們中小企業在這個質詢台上來替他們講話 |
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有一些個案可能是因為其他的因素那我希望說我們在銀行端不管是公股的還是民間銀行這個時間點能夠盡量的放寬採取信任長期合作的方式來協助業者這個我一直要求我們的如果這些個案大家不明就理他永遠都在談政府預算沒有到位政策沒有到位就是因為那幾個個案 |
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所以我本席為什麼會要求兩位部長跟要追蹤到那個個案這樣好不好最後一個小問題院長那個11月發一萬塊時間定了沒有我們盡快該 |
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好 謝謝蔡其桑委員質詢謝謝卓院長 相關部會所長備詢 謝謝 |