| IVOD_ID |
164457 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164457 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T13:46:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T13:55:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b338dfc3d4340a8ff3779056bb49c711183c966d97180d5d2c85d994a9850a63d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:46:48 - 13:55:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
2.程被提名人明修-立法院第11屆第4會期交通、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。
【10月20日（星期一）依序分別審查蔣被提名人榮先、程被提名人明修；10月22日（星期三）依序分別審查黃被提名人葳威、羅被提名人慧雯。】
【10月20日及22日二天一次會】） |
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好 主席謝謝 麻煩請陳備提名人請備提名人 |
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陳副主委 背題名人 你好本席也很關心跟重視NCC要獨立行使機關但是很遺憾 其實最重要的還是行政部門提出來人選的時候是已經距離去年四位委員到期一年之久 |
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去年7月31號到期的時候結果到新任這一屆的委員名單是今年的7月31號才提出來並且送來到立法院所以即便我們要審理過去這段時間沒有名單可以審理但關鍵還是來到因為院長講說有委員在做生涯規劃的考量等等的也因此有延檔那我想請教一下副主委被提名人什麼時候院長 院長有沒有跟您知 |
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徵詢過擔任委員這件事情謝謝委員行政院院長有跟我親自徵詢過什麼時候印象當中有兩次的時間第一次的時間應該是在去年的年底 |
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去年年底就爭取了去年年底第一次有跟院長碰面不過第一次碰面時院長跟我談到的並不是一個具體的工作上面的問題而是想要跟我探討有關於這個有關通常會目前運作所衍生出來的法律問題想要跟我 |
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了解一些我的看法跟您就教 好那第二次呢 確定什麼時候提名你並且說副主委這樣子重責大任如果沒有記錯應該是在今年的5月5日5月5日 是 |
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奇怪 今天早上我們的主委被提名了一張5月5日不過重點在於是4月底院長就已經跟跟我們本院的委員在質詢的時候就有講過說已經幾乎確定名單了好 那不管5月5日到7月31日中間將近三個月的時間 |
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副主委會不會覺得很好奇您5月5日答應院長說你願意承擔這個重責大任那為什麼過去這三個月行政院沒有把你們的名單交出來就這部分我可能沒辦法回答不清楚你也沒有去問是不是你的生涯規劃而造成院長沒有辦法送出名單對我來講當然是你個人嗎我拖延的原因是你個人嗎 |
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我自己在教學上面的安排當然也會遇到一些影響但因為審查的期程沒有辦法確定所以這個所謂的影響並不是那麼的具體所以不是你個人所以5月5號至少主委副主委確認了院長也公開的答詢講是說4月底可以送出名單但是5月沒有送 6月沒有送到7月31號才送出名單原因是什麼 |
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這三個月NCC說有些委員會小組沒有辦法開會我們也很關心啊 我們也很焦慮啊我們也希望獨立行使機關的職權啊那為什麼行政院不提出來坊間講是說是要等大罷免啊副主委怎麼看我實在是沒辦法協助回答這樣一個問題好 你也回答不出來 來 |
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行政院院長要負最大責任如果說現在NCC有那麼多被卡關那麼多沒有辦法獨立行使職權提名的人負最大責任再來副主委提名人請教因為本時有看到您的這一個履歷裡面有特別提到說你也擔任過術院委員也擔任過NCC的國家賠償小組事件小組那其實國賠也好或說術院也好我相信你應該學有專精對不對不敢 |
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來 那站在法令跟比例原則的角度其實NCC在上一屆最大的一個爭議也讓全國人民滑爛甚至會認為是說NCC變張CC的主要原因就是因為它當時讓一個新聞台被撤銷並且沒有辦法換照 |
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而造成新聞台實質的關閉當時很多人就說這是已經違反了言論自由跟新聞自由我們知道廣電法採取借其換照制是為了保障公眾權利視聽眾的權利並且兼顧新聞自由跟新聞專業保障新聞自由跟行政審查媒體絕對不能畫上等號那我想請教以你的角度認為NCC當時的決議有符合廣電法跟衛星廣播電視法的規範嗎 |
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委員所追尋的這個問題他在行政法院的判決當中基本上有呈現出兩個比較大的爭議那這個部分有包含對於這個程序上面的進行的問題你怎麼看如果說你是委員或是甚至你是副主委的話你會讓這樣子的一個事件發生嗎 |
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對於我一個學習行政法或研究行政程序法的學者來講一個行政決定的正當行政程序的鑒於是一個必要的條件所以那麼在這個案子當中因為我老實講我也沒有辦法直接看到目前的這個相關內部決定的過程 |
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但你認不認同我現在講說認不認同說這樣實質已經影響到新聞自由言論自由的一個展現我可以不同意你的話但我適時捍衛言論的自由可是在上一屆的NCC委員裡面居然發生了直接用換照的方式把一個新聞台直接撤照 |
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你認同這樣的行為嗎依照法規監理機關他在換照的審查權限上有他應該要面對的媒體的言論自由或傳播自由但是他也需要顧慮到應保障的公共利益所以在這個公益跟私益的權衡當中機關的這個決定應該有他一定的應鑒於的正當行政程序同時 副主委不是只是拖時間講人話好嗎 |
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直球對決可以嗎回答本席問題可以嗎 |
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我就是在回答委員的問題來我看一下因為現在法院也有做相關的一個這個審議那如果說假設現在這個新聞台他在做這個相關的這個訴願相關的一個行政法院的一個流程到最後真的判決有瑕疵處分違法那我們要怎麼面對你當過這個國賠你當過訴願小組的委員可能處理這案件如果到時候業者申請國賠的話 |
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在一個法治國家裡面不管是機關或者是政府哪一個單位在法院的判決做成之後依法院判決而做成應有的相應的措施這是理所當然的那如果說現在看起來現在法院也已經判了這個業者已經26勝 |
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NCC26B那有沒有人應該要負起相關的政治責任或是裁量責任在目前委員所提到的以換照案件為例我所理解還在法院的訴訟進行當中所以這個法院判決的結果出來之後如果會涉及到相關的問題這個依法應該要做如何的處理本來也就是法律規範的內容 |
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主委本席期待你講的跟你過去現在以及未來的言行都一致NCC是獨立行使公正的機關但最重要的是面子是別人給的臉是自己丟的這句話我期待每一個被提名的委員都要有信心跟有能力能夠讓國人看到NCC的專業謝謝委員謝謝侯孟卡委員發言 |