| IVOD_ID |
164443 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164443 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-36,22-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T12:28:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T12:35:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1bf67a9ea2c8405e596d84cc432149c84b83c966d97180d5d2c39fa9bf89edc1d95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:28:42 - 12:35:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查
（一）委員賴士葆等20人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）國民黨黨團擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員賴士葆等29人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條及第三十八條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員柯志恩等18人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員許宇甄等21人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員黃健豪等20人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員張智倫等19人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例部分條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員葉元之等20人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
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主席有請我們教育部還有前系部還有人事行政總署委員好大家辛苦了這個今天談這個公立學校教職員退休之前撫恤條例這個我們必須去回顧這個剛才有民進黨的立委特別提到 |
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這個馬英九總統過去也提過年金改革年金改革的方向或是怎麼樣去改革其實是有很多種面向我們就並不是說因為他講過所以現在的現在的法律是他支持的不是這樣我們來看 |
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當初蔡英文上任之後成立了國家年金改革委員會邀請了各專家學者包括我們行政機關各機關的專業人員各院各部會都有開了20次會議20次不是小數字開了20次會議當時的行政院跟考試院 |
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根據陳副總統燒開主持的國家年金改革委員會20次的會議我再強調一次20次的會議然後你們提出了當時的行政院跟考試院提出了公務人員退休撫恤法的草案在106年3月30號但是呢 |
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很遺憾的當時的立法院因為民進黨絕對多數竟然是依段宜康委員的等委員民進黨的委員的提案來通過是依民進黨的立委我是在現場段委員有很有怎麼瞭解這些嗎當然不是就大砍就對了 |
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國家年金改革委員會20次的會議然後行政院考試院送來的草案是小砍那後來是大砍就這麼簡單所以怎麼樣要把它回復過來這個是我們必須作為一個 |
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回到現在的話怎麼樣能夠回復到當時國民最起碼是國家年金改革委員會這麼多的專家學者各部會各院而且開了20次的會議這是一個部分好我們看一樣有關公立學校教職員退休輔系條例今天要談的這個部分也是一樣行政院也送來了 |
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審查的時候這很複雜很簡單就是再砍當時的立法院民進黨記憶多數再砍就是這麼簡單依民進黨團再修正綜藝條文通過也就是現行的這些法例以及相關的這些附表 |
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所謂的替代力就是按照民進黨的他就是在大砍這裡面有簡單的做一些對照我們以40年的年資來講就公立學校教職員的退休輔系條例附表3主要重點就是附表3當時行政院的版本用16年 |
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到最後16年是62.5%當時立法院通過民進黨團團的修正條文11年所以前面就要大砍就是這麼一回事就以30年的年資來看也是一樣要16年才達到52.5%提早到 |
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民進黨談的修正再修正動議條文是提早到11年52.5%52.5%當初的行政院版本是第11年是57.5%57.5%我們看這個40年年資的行政院版本當初第11年是67.5% |
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民進黨再修正動力調整是62.5%很簡單就大砍而已啊他們哪有那麼專業絕對沒有那麼專業就是大砍比例再大砍縮小年限就這麼簡單所以我們應該要怎麼樣再回復過來應該的應該的就是要好好的提出來 |
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不然的話陳副總統當初召集了這麼多的專業人員各院各部會所討論出來的所以這個部分我們要去好好的去說明所以這個部分是我們應該要繼續在今天的審查以及未來的審查都必須要盡力的部分這個是我們讓真實的回顧好不好 |
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好 謝謝謝謝委員 |