| IVOD_ID |
164417 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164417 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T11:13:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T11:20:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b318d33c6ec8f9ed62e2f7db73b8fc9c783c966d97180d5d2739038d26760b9c95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:13:51 - 11:20:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
1.蔣被提名人榮先-立法院第11屆第4會期交通、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。
【10月20日（星期一）依序分別審查蔣被提名人榮先、程被提名人明修；10月22日（星期三）依序分別審查黃被提名人葳威、羅被提名人慧雯。】
【10月20日及22日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請貝提名人請貝提名人委員好謝謝 我們講準主委好那個NCC之前有對境外假訊息這個干擾辦過公聽會 |
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那對於傳統媒體 平面媒體我們都有管制的單位網路媒體呢 現在沒有那主委認為NCC可以怎麼管 |
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好 謝謝委員的提問確實現況上面對於傳統的電子媒體我們是有法可管的網際網路因為是新興科技同時也包括像ODT等等這些新的媒體也導致現況上面NCC目前是沒有辦法用法律去做監管的 |
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所以呢在過去的幾年來就我個人所知道NCC內部呢曾經提案針對網際網路的監管有提出多次的這些政策的這種草擬那現在白皮書也出來了所以NCC應該是將來呢朝向能夠凝聚更多的民眾的共識之後呢 |
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能夠去做朝立法的方式那也會將傳統的媒體和新興的媒體的監管的標準一致化所以將來NCC應該有機會可以來納管 |
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將來其實之前行政院講重點我想問重點是應該是行政院當時是希望能夠把ODT去做納管那至於網際網路現在目前的主管機關現在確實還沒有一個對啦所以我問你就是說將來是不是有機會就是他的主管機關就是我們NCC當作我們的主管機關那才有機會去控管是 |
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所以NCC的態度是將來我們希望把網際網路媒體等等的就是在NCC修法然後把他納管這樣子OK嗎應該是這樣子 應該是勇敢的去接這個工作謝謝 謝謝你很勇敢因為你如果不勇敢 老是沒有人管啊你像那個館長什麼說什麼轉手總統這件事啊這個還可以讓他繼續擴散嗎這個應該趕快處理掉啊 |
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現在速發部當然他是屬於可以了解網路的狀況但是他沒有直接的管理這個權利總是我們媒體部分的主要的就是NCC在主責所以這個部分比如說像這個以後我們發現發現之後NCC就可以開始來查核 |
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查核之後發現他真的是對國家元首或者是散播這些謠言會對人民社會有重大的傷害就馬上把它停掉啊先停了再說嘛你說要等到所有的程序等到法律的程序通通處理完了最後才來停 |
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那都不會付錢啦所以我是覺得NCC應該要勇敢的把這個擔下來你看我們的那個廣播電視法有線電視法 微線電視法等等的就是說那這個我們這個是要新訂一個法還是要修哪個法 |
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241.228 |
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那根據網際網路的管理白皮書上面呢當時是希望凝聚共識那凝聚共識的方向呢最早 因為還沒有目前凝聚共識之前先用分散式的立法就根據不同的議題去立法那將來如果說有可能的話其實廣電三法會和網際網路的這樣的法的管理的法制呢變成一致化對 這是網 比如說我簡單的講就廣播電視及網際網路 |
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的管理規範還是什麼法就是你們會把它連在一起思考吧對不對是 應該是朝這個方向 |
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256.035 |
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280.689 |
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好 所以這個公聽會希望說你們可以照這個做啦希望說將來我們一定要不要說沒有這個部分沒有法可管希望NCC勇敢的擔下來也謝謝主委這一部分可以願意來承擔那最後還有一個就是那個詐團冒名詐騙用NCC的名義你們用這個建議說希望設定拒絕未顯示號碼這個是你認同嗎 |
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302.515 |
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確實過去一般用比較保守的方式呢其實是用一些就是用比較不出事的方式來去做作為啦那一般的民眾呢所謂的拒絕未顯示的方式拒絕未顯示號嘛其實你們這個建議我是覺得這有的沒的啦 |
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329.678 |
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你不如說 比如說電信業者你去研究他這個隱藏號碼到底是可不可行你如果說 叫民眾自己去用你這個功能到底現在是有好還是有壞有需要保持這個功能嗎 |
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對 所以這是確實NCC我是建議你們就有一點具體的做法啦就是NCC以前我的經驗說經常就是推 推 推推都不能解決問題所以剛剛你講的我們要納管網際網路要有承擔 |
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要勇敢這個我給你肯定我們希望說你就可以說到做到那像這個建議坦白講我告訴你這建議根本就是不好的建議嘛你要嘛就是作為有什麼作為不管是隱藏號碼的功能你去研究看怎麼樣去處理或者是那個Who's Call怎麼樣跟電信業者合作來幫忙就是65歲的老人等等的自責的考量就有一些具體的做法這樣子才有用希望說NCC將來能夠每一次的作為 |
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376.362 |
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謝謝許卓 |