| IVOD_ID |
164408 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164408 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T11:06:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T11:18:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b74457e6b89c5531588348e19566c842c83c966d97180d5d22d0461bc9268856f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:06:58 - 11:18:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席 首先有請我們國防會業主委好 我們再請國防會業主委 |
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議員好 葉哲瑋你這份報告寫得很好非常清晰而且非常明瞭但是這裡面你提到你的施大施重的目標創新經濟 均衡台灣 精進治理及投資人才 |
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剛剛我看到政權委員的執行關於桃子苗大矽谷計畫我們為了這個大矽谷計畫也聯合了桃園市新直縣新直市苗栗縣整個再綜合的檢討 |
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那大家都感覺好像國會也不怎麼重視經濟部也不怎麼重視行政院現在越來越大牌已經反映了幾十次我們說裡面有很多問題要來解決了譬如在苗栗有一個投資的科學研區有一個職能科學研區第二期有一個產業科技研區那經濟部我們大概都已經協調完成了 |
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那主覽的科學運氣第二期是包括第一期裡面的一個延伸我一直拜託你們做協調 您好像沒搖沒緊口號喊得那麼大 這是未來曹植苗的一個希望跟未來但是我們對這個問題跟你請教 你們都躲在後面好像沒有人敢去承擔 敢去擔當一樣 |
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職亂科學運區第二期的時候我們要請國科會來擔任目的事業的主管機關到現在都沒有一點進展尤其是你們劉指揮在謝震的那天晚上發一個給我他說做下來以後沒有把我這個幫完成那葉指揮要不要替我們幫忙 |
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在那個合法合法 你問問黃次長很優秀他了解這個狀況我看你有拍到嗎沒有拍到剛剛看你在問答的話18天好像還不好意思不好意思不會啦當那個行政院的小內閣是非常大你是行政院的小內閣非常大要發揮你的power好不好 |
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我會 我會盡量來協調好不好 多久一直在等待我回到地方都被人家是不是要取消了中央不支持中央只支持南部不支持北部不支持苗栗縣好不好 我希望這一點既然計畫你們已經合訂了出來了全力的推動好不好好 這第一點第二點 |
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你所有的工作內容裡面協調推動AI |
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新十大建設這裡面分得看起來很好但是我有一點AI軟體的產業跟東方你們畫在世衛部這個一定要跟經濟部的結合因為這裡面有很多軟體要實際在運作實際跟工廠在討論你才有辦法我只要說你AI十大建設好像是在那個 |
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分餐一樣 這個部位多少錢這個都要跨部位合作不說它簡單一行就行再來裡面我有意見的時候就是全球AI機器人供應鏈的私流你們排在國科會我就有時候覺得很懷疑是要給大學的還是怎麼來做這個跟產業鏈有關係啊跟哪一家工廠特稅有關係啊跟哪一種運行有關係啊 |
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這邊都沒有只有高科會分給大學大學去研究他要對產業很了解才可以不是憑光想像的我希望你們能務實這一點的時候真的有幾個地方要討論一下 |
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你點頭是怎樣 可以不可以你可以回答我知道那個委員的關心我也認同就是說其實產業的發展不光是在學校而且要產業之間要互相的配合所以我們其實也有某一些計畫其實是在鼓勵大學要有一個育成的東西這個是關鍵的時候現在邊學習不是在台灣管理很厚的很內行的世界十個都在那邊這個競爭已經非常激烈了 |
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再來啊 你重大的公共建設完全又有談有很多預算都過了 你們還丟在那邊好像都不敢動 每次用財政措施法 文法還沒有確定怎麼樣那是今年的預算耶 已經拼在裡面了 也不核定啊這個政府也跟他拼了 |
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那個顏色不要那麼重你會不會顏色很重我希望你不會但是每一個人都是講不會都是講為國家來做服務的但是做事情不要這樣我們已經明顯的看出來要把你調查太多了不送媒體我們背在心裡 |
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我從現在大罷免完了就要真的做事情還有原來國外的人才這裡面很重要但是你要記得我們薪資的競爭都比我們鄰近日本、韓國還要低不是只有水利化提高薪資啦不然你覺得我們台灣我一直在強調台灣會變成AI的訓練所尤其這個執政黨到日本到美國到歐洲 |
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我給你一個消息日本要引進印度5萬個AI的人才 |
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那AI人才現在把它發掘應用印度台當CEO的話這個公司都會倒你不要看這個資料它會結幫結派所以你這一方面台灣的人才訓練自己水往地去流 人往高去爬大家都到薪資高的地方又有利卡台灣又在地緣政治裡面戰爭邊緣 |
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大家想嘛,我們去做人的腦袋我們不要指財禁用我們自己選的人才把他留在台灣這個真的未來會發生一個非常嚴重的問題啊你每次都說得很好聽我要如何,我要如何實在我很擔心啊真的,你多看那一些日本要用 |
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引進AI人才要從印度引進五萬人你看這世界是怎麼在變不是我們口講的那些真的我們要面臨很多問題那我們現在都自我陶醉我們很強我們不怕人家的競爭好 再來今天很多人在問我有一點很遺憾你國會會的職位不曉得我們校務總統 |
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說要除了台積電要把ICT的生態產業鏈要外移到美國我們要到美國開RAID科學運氣的方式你想ICT是什麼自動性產品不是除了經營ICT就是封裝測試高階的封裝測試那我再跟 |
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主委討論一下 高階的封裝車是你曉得嗎 用人是最多的地方啊啊什麼美國生產一半 台灣生產一半我們的根被割掉 我們都不曉得啊我請教你 你相信美國嗎他是好人嗎他真的照顧台灣嗎你要看起來 他要了什麼 你就乖乖給他你以為那些參議員來這邊訪問的都做什麼都是叫我買武器 |
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我們台灣政府 我也不曉得為什麼那麼相信他我們坑都被挖光了 你們都沒有反應說這個叫做擴展實力 我跟你說有時候講起來看起來很有道理 就叫做出賣台灣坑每一個在競爭 我錢多我去找 |
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我們台灣不一定會比人家贏世界的人才很多這第一點跟委員報告那個五十五十我們是不會接你做國務法會主委連政府都不跟你同情楊瓊園委員很有人心叫你三個月的報告照這樣的話 |
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不然我們立委怎麼曉得兩天前的新聞出來我馬上要問對臺灣的影響要了多少所以表示這個政府裡面的反應很慢這是大家關心的問題啊切切實實會怎麼樣你們也不講明白說好啦臺灣沒有關係臺灣的實力很強啊臺積電很強 |
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台積電你們就報告說我們只營5年到10年我們還要這樣自我逃稅人才外流什麼機器都外流到國外大家都拚自己的管你台灣是誰我不知道你們做生意在競爭的世界是這樣在拚還有一點我從來要談台積電的二耐敏機器已經外流到日本的TL他們也在試製的二耐敏 |
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我們政府輕描淡寫 這不是偷情這個是轉移 非常的奇怪二難民的機制等於國安的機制我們這都不發生還是說臺灣有事 日本就有事作為調案的條件 |
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633.999 |
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所以台積電2奈米那個時候台灣被拖起了 日本沒有事情我覺得這個政府委員怪到底是為誰服務的主委 人生一直想要好好跟你討論沒有 因為剛剛我因為我覺得這個問題你這個很重要的未來規劃台灣的願景啊你們都覺得沒有關係 這樣有過 |
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643.836 |
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666.618 |
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臺灣啊 會那個什麼 青蛙指紋 水會變臨這些官員啊從來沒有警惕的意思好像臺灣世界無敵 要把你餓很快啦我跟你講 你看連日本都不能當間諜來這邊偷我們2奈米的美國沒有間諜嘛 不要想得太天真了啦 謝謝好 謝謝 |