| IVOD_ID |
164396 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164396 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T10:15:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T10:23:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1ba3060de95fc8259610dc7ddeacd8f6da83c966d97180d5d2e54a6599b840bfc85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:15:51 - 10:23:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部、警政署署長、國家安全局、法務部針對「當前全國治安狀況與如何強化總統、副總統、中央政府機關首長及特定人士安全警衛作業，避免境外勢力或協力者影響國家安全」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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現在主席是不是麻煩有請內政部的常事跟警政署的署長常事跟署長委員好 |
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市長好跟署長好今天內政部提出來針對有關於避免境外的勢力包括了境外勢力可能包括敵對不敵對跟他的協力者會不會影響我們的國家安全我們的中央政府機關的首長這是一個非常嚴肅而重要的問題來第一個經濟部的部長跟AIT官員 |
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他們在參會啊這很重要啊這是台美關係啊非常私密的聚會啊私密到安排到我們的經濟部部長郭志輝啊自己企業集團開的餐廳啊結果在餐敘的照片啊外面有一個狗仔集團啊在那邊拍啊全部都登在進週刊啊我所掌握到的狀況那天就是進週刊的狗仔集團在那邊跟啊 |
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這件事情內政部跟國安局有沒有作為?內政部有沒有作為?這個事情有調查嗎?有還是沒有就好,今天我問題很多,時間很短有調查還是沒有調查,有沒有立案?有還是沒有?這個案目前還在偵查中所以有立案?對,有偵查中 |
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是告發人是誰告訴人是有人告訴告發還是檢察官檢報分案那這個部分因為是偵查中人案件來跟委員報告沒有關係有立案就好有立案我一定會追結果那時候爛青的2019年啊跑到 |
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裡面的辦公室跟幾個台南的立委會面啊一樣被拍啊又是靖州刊總統候選人欸跟台南的立委碰面叫他挺他出來對抗蔡英文啊結果又是靖州刊跟拍這個事情有沒有立案調查 |
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這案目前沒有資料怎麼會沒有資料這公開的資訊拍成這個樣子我的意思就是這個案是目前我們沒有受理人家的這樣的報案對啊 所以我就問你標準在哪裡那我今天公開報案啊今天我公開報案嘛那我們就受理對不對這才是要處理的事情啊 |
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不是嗎很嚴肅耶當初賴清德氣得不得了啊正告蔡英文啊不要動用國家機器啊賴清德在講什麼他不就在講這個嗎而且我為什麼說有海外資金這當然有海外資金啊我們現在的國安局行政院發言人李慧芝甚至包括劉四方部長都出來講這個海外資金我鐵證都貼出來啦 |
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在外面有一個開賣群島的紙上公司欸匯了8億多給淨州刊欸這個是鐵打石的海外資金欸那這個紙上公司怎麼匯了2800多萬美金可以匯給淨州刊借款更有趣的是每一年借但是都不用還這貪為觀止啊哇 這個紙上公司真的是大發慈悲啊每一年借錢 每一年借 但都不用還 |
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然後已經累積了新台幣8億多了這個有沒有去追查這才是海外資金嘛你要去看這個紙上公司的背後是不是有中共啊有沒有中資啊有沒有港資啊是不是紅色的力量把錢灌進去啊這個該不該查 來請署長 |
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這個如果說是不是有沒有牽涉到這一些的中資港資的這種狀況那如果說有報案的立案我們就會立案來查這有人報案嗎目前沒有報案那一樣我今天公開今天公開告發我今天公開告發嘛這樣子就很清楚了嘛委員如果告發我們就來受理好來受理這一定要查啦太嚴重了這才是海外資金嘛那最後一個 |
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你自己好像也是受害人嘛你跑去芳名館跟萬華芳名館的角頭黃清源跑去吃魚翅宴結果那個鏡頭也出來了嘛這個鏡頭出來以署長你的認知我知道啦你那時候解釋過因為你那時候是局長要升署長有人發黑函嘛 |
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跟委員報告 這個上次委員解釋很清楚這個是一個情務上議員事件情務上的一個我瞭解署長你不用擔心這個是臨時來 而且是有報備的是是是 好署長你不用擔心這個鏡頭啊 來來來 署長請您看一下你常年擔任警察的鏡頭啊這個鏡頭是從什麼地方來的這個照片從什麼地方來的應該監視器應該監視器 誰可以掉監視器 |
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誰可以調監視器 應該警察才能調監視器嘛我這樣講有沒有錯如果說 不知道 應該他因為這是業者啦 怎麼會出去了可能要調查對啊 這要調查啊 這很嚴肅啊如果有中共的境外勢力要影響我們中華民國警政署署長的人選 |
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那境外的勢力去介入啊 然後可以讓我們的警政系統把這個路邊的監視器的照片都搞出來 給特定的媒體去爆料這不是路邊的啦 這不是公家 這是私人的那一樣嘛 這餐廳的 對啊 所以你要想你是不是被攝取啊人家找你去那邊吃飯 然後餐廳的業者拍起來拍起來再把監視器的畫面提供給別人 你有想過你會被攝取嗎 |
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我想都有可能 不要去假設這個啦對嘛 既然都有可能 不要去假設這個 這個要不要查你要不要查這個餐廳背後是不是有中共的資金這個就境外敵對勢力耶 針對你個人耶 這很嚴重耶 這要不要查 |
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好 署長好 這個我們來瞭解不用瞭解 一樣我今天公開告發這一定要查清楚啊誰這樣搞你背後是不是有中共唆使這件事情太嚴肅了啦因為我老實跟署長講啦這個畫面媒體出來以前就有人跟我檢舉了我看報導 我就想說奇怪我認識的張榮鑫不是這種人啊對 沒錯啦因為我在吹哨者協會的時候你有來找我嗎 |
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那是為了調查88會館的事情嗎我已經提供這個訊息了對啊希望我提供資料給你們嘛是依照我提供的資料你們警戒裡面也做了處分嘛對所以對嘛做民政的這個調查啊對啊所以是你因為跟我合作所以被盯上嗎 |
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你尷尬啊 不能這樣假設沒有沒有 我跟你講現在媒體說故事的程度齁已經到了什麼故事都可以講了不要 不要在臆測這種事情你講得非常的好啊現在就一天到晚的綠媒在臆測這些事嘛所以很重要我幫你報不平我告發 查清楚誰洩漏出去的 就判到底這樣好不好好 好 謝謝 |