| IVOD_ID |
164383 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164383 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T10:38:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T10:45:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1bcf2a5af51d271bbf2e2f7db73b8fc9c783c966d97180d5d25347f071d6b30dbb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:17 - 10:45:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
1.蔣被提名人榮先-立法院第11屆第4會期交通、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。
【10月20日（星期一）依序分別審查蔣被提名人榮先、程被提名人明修；10月22日（星期三）依序分別審查黃被提名人葳威、羅被提名人慧雯。】
【10月20日及22日二天一次會】） |
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好謝謝主席麻煩邀請我們講被提名人請被提名人 |
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委員好您好這個其實我對您其實並沒有太多的認識那因為您要行使這個NCC獨立機關的職權那我可能其實我包括不知道其他三位可能副主委跟其他被提名人有沒有聽到我其實都可以預告等一下問的問題我可能針對三位都是一樣的問題我不會針對你們個人可能過去的一些行為拘職或者是學術注重提出特別的一個提問 |
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那NCE這幾年被社會廣泛討論最主要的原因就是針對這個新聞媒體的監管的獨立性被認為被執政黨高度的影響那因此我會針對新聞媒體的監管提出一些問題那當然新聞媒體在西方叫第四權當然我們現在五權但其實國內也一樣習慣稱之為第四權那您對於第四權的理解 |
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剛才非常謝謝委員的提問我剛才在自我介紹有提到我很慶幸的在美國那時候其實是三十年前就見識到第四權其實能夠透過媒體能夠透過公共政策的辯論其實能夠讓社會上形塑成社會的價值這是我見識到而且非常重要的一個事情謝謝 |
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那您對於第四權的期待就是社會它賦予給它一個第四權這樣的一個的稱號那總是會對它有一些期待或者說你認為它應該在這個社會上面它應該有的義務是什麼所有的媒體其實呢最主要的就是公共利益也就是它對於 |
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民眾的知情權的保障這個是最重要的也就是他能夠去揭露政府機關不該做的事情他能夠把一般人所願意不喜歡聽的言論他都能夠透過公平透過公開的方式呢去在特定的這個媒體上面去報導那這樣子呢就能夠促進公共利益甚至可以有讓一般的民眾去理解到更多的這些知情的意義 |
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其實人其實每一個人一定都有他自己本身的一個立場或者是意識形態我覺得這是非常正常的只是說有時候我們在行使一些職權的時候或者是我們在某一個 |
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在我們的位置的時候我們可能要盡量的去排除我們的立場然後去盡量做到客觀或者是符合社會期待的一個職權的一個形式我相信媒體也是一樣的那其實我們都知道台灣的媒體或者是全世界的媒體其實現在光譜每一個媒體會被光譜的情況是越來越嚴重每個媒體其實本身也都有他自己的立場 |
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我想不可能有一百分的媒體那為了確認這個您是否注意被獨立性不會帶著政治的任務行使職權或者是被媒體集團來操弄我相針對不同的政治光譜的各大媒體新聞媒體請您提出批判我想這個各類的媒體不只偏藍偏綠而是所有的媒體我都會可能請你簡單的論述一下您可能對於這個家媒體你對他的認識你提出你的一些批判可以嗎 |
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我想我不做個案分析但是我做一般性的分析所以確實以現在回答委員的問題以現在目前國內這麼多樣性的媒體的生態當中確實有些媒體它的背後的老闆集團所以因此它會有特定的色彩它在一個民主國家的常態裡面這是應該被尊重同時被保護的這樣的一個現象所以我個人不認為說不同的政治光譜 |
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導致了這些不同的媒體就應該被管理或被管制我反而認為應該要讓媒體能夠正向的看待當它能夠發聲能夠有更多元化的聲音能夠讓我們的民眾去了解到這個社會的真實的反應的話這是 |
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所以主委您認為這個不同的一個立場或者是不同政治光譜的一個媒體集團它是非常的正常那您認為說不同的光譜的媒體集團回到剛剛前面的第一個問題第二個問題就是您對於第四權的理解以及社會大眾對於第四權的一個期待那它要怎麼樣子的在不同的政治光譜當中去符合它第四權一個社會對它的一個期待 |
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好 非常謝謝憲法賦予我們的媒體有一個言論自由所以因此所有的人民還有我們的民眾都知道在這個言論自由的保護下面媒體它可以自由發聲它可以揭露它想要表達的事實所以在這樣子的一個媒體的生態當中接下來媒體要做的事就是他們的自律工作了 |
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也就是他为何要报道这件事情他为什么要报道这件事情他为了得普利兹奖吗还是他为了要得金马奖或者金钟奖不是的所以应该媒体应该要把他报道这件事情他有他的意志 |
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那在現在社會當中特別是民主的台灣的民主的價值的普世價值的現場當中呢這樣的聲音都應該被尊重不管他來聲音有多小多大都應該被尊重那也就是說新聞的自由新聞的自由跟我們NCC監管新聞秩序他的一個界線 |
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您認為這個應該會有一個很明確的界線應該要在哪一邊謝謝謝謝委員這樣的提問他也讓我有這個機會來說明媒體的自律以及呢和NCC的應該監管的那樣的權利中間的平衡點是什麼呢中間的平衡點其實就是社會大眾的公共利益 |
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也就是他今天報導這件事情如果能夠促進社會的公共利益的話他就值得被報導那NCC也沒有理由要去做他任何的監管所以是否符合公共利益應該還蠻主觀的吧是的也就是您認為NCC應該也不會太去判斷什麼東西是符合公共利益你也很難判斷是不是 |
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是確實也就是說以NCC的現況上面呢我們不去做內容的實質審查那然而呢一般的民眾對於輿論的議題呢應該是我們最重要的其實那我可以了解您的立場非常清楚就是原則上是高度自由的一個新聞媒體我們盡量不去做干涉那因此其實前面有人提到了那因此回到我會再有兩個小問題啦您簡單的說有或沒有就好了 |
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那您認為中天被關台是否有政治力的干預有或沒有我覺得我很難回答這個問只有用yes和no來回答所以你也不確定有或沒有對我確定不是你沒有辦法確定中天關台有沒有政治力的介入對因為所有的公開資訊看起來目前已經進到司法程序了那所以能夠尊重司法的判決好沒關係那第二個就是靜電室的設立您認為是否政治力的干預 |
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好 一樣的道理 靜電視的設立的過程當中這個可能就牽扯到NCC的職權了是 它雖然有完整的中間的過程當中有不斷的爭議那我個人認為現在最適合做的方式就是去做持續的監管也就是持續的觀察這個電視台的表現如果從這電視台現在目前播放出來的新聞如果都觸犯到法律的話那NCC確實應該要去做監管的動作 謝謝好 以上謝謝 謝謝主席 |
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謝謝 好 謝謝廖千祥委員 |