| IVOD_ID |
164367 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164367 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T10:06:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T10:17:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1bdfedb39039f1811d88348e19566c842c83c966d97180d5d27082a9d1d9fc83395ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:06:41 - 10:17:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。) |
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主席 請做詢問謝謝主席 我請國畫會的葉主委我們再請葉主委 |
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各位你好 各位今天的施政報告大概討論一個主題就是均衡台灣均衡台灣大概我認為有三大方向第一個就是產業要均衡第二個區域要均衡第三個所得要均衡 |
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產業當然包括這個高科技半導體等等AI那當然傳統跟服務業很重要所以如何讓這個產業能夠盡量發展你看這個現在的股市到27000、28000那經濟成長數據也非常漂亮包括中資金融的估計 主機種族的估計 |
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GDP大概5.4、5.5左右那但是它的三大構成GDP組成的這個項目裡面我們對這個出口的這個年增率24%投資也增加了將近10%但是消費消費實質成長只有0.不到1%所以這個部分發現就是說把這個出口跟投資都集中在AI跟半導體 |
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在传统产业 你看股价 传统产业包括扣剑 石化等等它的股价大概是十几年来最低的 甚至还腰斩 收入也减少所以在产业的不均衡 所以你看看的数字很漂亮股市上将近三万点 国民所得超越南韩 超越日本 |
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但是讓人民的感覺是有很嚴重的差異北 中南有差異 區域有差異世代有差異年輕人私有利益比一般人還高所以你要做到去台灣不是一個表面數字而已你要確實去考慮到這個產業是不是能夠透過這次五大世代產業也能帶動傳統產業來發展 |
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所以第一个问题要请到这个业主委目前的经济成长的红利都集中在特殊产业AI跟半导体那这个大部分的这个从业我们这个国人工作很多都是做这个传统产业跟服务业他们对于经济成长并没有很直接的感觉反而是比以前更退步 |
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這個部分你要怎麼樣去落實這個五大核心產業五大信貸產業然後又能夠帶動這個傳統產業的發展我想請教你的意見第一個就是說我們 |
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我们在执行所谓的AI新时代建设的过程当中的话不只是在鼓励所谓的AI产业委员如果还知道的话我们那五个项目里面有一个叫做百工百业智慧应用那百工百业智慧应用的话其实很大一部分都是在鼓励所谓的中小企业在做AI产业我也有请教过资策会资策会扮演一些角色但目前是真的医疗跟这个餐饮业而已啊 |
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所以你说我选区是个金属扣件金属扣件是面临到这个三四年最大的寒冬最大的挑战所以我们政府应该要提供更多的协助让他们可以渡过这个难关所以大家都跟我说哇 这个经济成长跟他们完全没有关系员工也是如此 老板也是如此所以俱全台湾不能只成为一个口号你要让人家觉得的确政府在追求俱全台湾的过程中所有产业都是同步成长 |
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我觉得这个部分你应该有一个全盘的国家发展战略而不是针对五大信贷产业或者过去的六大核心产业而已特别是相对如果是在这一波经济成长里面并没有受惠的这些产业服务业等等传统制造业石化钢铁等等院生在道爱红片野 |
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所以是兩個世界所以這部分我提醒您能夠針對非高科技產業能夠提出有更多的振興計畫跟均衡產業協助的這些計畫 |
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另外這個 第二個問題是說區域要均衡因為六大區域發展計畫從北北基到桃園住民黨中當統等等我覺得這是一個目標但是你要怎麼透過這些均衡海灣透過這個區域的均衡達到這個所得的均衡或者地方發展的這個均衡這個部分我看到你們提出這個方向跟願景但是這個六大區域發展計畫 |
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你說要徵就業提薪資繁地方這是一個目標跟口號但是能不能具體落實我不知道你就看一下那個失業率來看失業率啊高雄過去認為說這個相對經濟資源不夠但是高雄市六都失業率最低的一個六都啊 |
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為什麼過去高雄市失業率比較高為什麼變成目前失業率最低任何政策的結果不是天上掉下來的那政策結果都是要一步一腳進去去招商去讓青年人能夠留在這個高雄所以我們不管是總理失業率高雄市是六度最低青年失業率也是六度最低但是其他的縣市也蠻高的我不好意思說其他哪些縣市但一定是 |
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有一些状况没有被排除没有被重视嘛所以你这个失业率代表说你的所得就不均衡嘛所以我希望说国会业主委您上任之后要有个新的思维要用更高的这个视野国家战略角度怎么去落实这个均衡台湾从所得落实从这个区域发展落实跟产业发展落实这个部分我提醒您这个 |
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這個未來還有很長路要走 這個是一個非常重要而且很核心 為關稅到台灣未來這個生存發展的一個重要的關鍵那另外一個就是關於這個 |
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過去的六大核心戰略產業在蔡英文總統的時候跟現在的五大現代產業差別大概就是多了一個能源項目能源轉型很重要能源轉型不是一觸可及的但這個方向絕對是正確的不能被少數個案去抹殺這個政策的正面意義跟未來能源轉型的一個重要性 |
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所以未來2030年我們要達到這個2030年要達到這個30%的再生能源這個部分是我們要努力的目標但是有很多的不可控的部分 |
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你看這個戰爭的部分最大的這個佔比是這個風力發電風力發電要離岸封電跟這個陸域封電我們沒有辦法允許陸域封電 只能離岸封電所以站在一個國安法會角度你要跟經濟部協調 跟環境部協調 跟國防部協調為什麼我們的離岸封電沒有辦法落實 |
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當然有國際大環境的變化包括整體川普的反對包括整個供應鏈的吃緊包括利率的升高台灣也是面臨到這種狀況 |
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那对于这个能源转型,国化会有没有什么看法?我们这一边,就是说在经济部这一边来讲的话,它中长期的用电成长已经纳入半导体AI新兴科技的发展需求了。那经济部也对于那一个燃气机组的装置容量,也有一些提一些计划,比如说它要增加大概1200万瓦。 |
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我觉得这个现在回答可能太detail我觉得我提这个问题出来就是希望说你做一个整合者协调者你要跟相关部队协调为什么没有办法落实到原先的发电比我的目标跟现在差距有多少问题在哪里要怎么去排除这是您要做的工作另外这个国家基金你要投资一定也要均衡这部分我很关心对新创对南部的投资 |
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你們過去國發基金這個投資都是集中在北部而且對新創的比例也比較少所以我認為未來你們應該立即的調整你們投資的方向不要集中在北部中南部只有個位數所以這個部分我覺得你站在均衡台灣的角度這個是背道而馳 |
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所以對新創的你們福祉也不夠要不是我極力堅持你們國發基金還沒有在南部設立辦公室是我堅持這樣才有辦公室但是具體成果怎麼樣還是有限的跟我期待的目標差很多你要把過去的新創商變成綠洲不是不可行是你要不要做而已有沒有這個決心而已 |
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你從你投資的比例來看這個比例你能看嗎這我要怎麼對南部的這些年輕的新創新創家來做一個說明跟交代呢所有都集中在北部所以我認為國際經濟執行長也在 |
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这个部分我也跟你们提醒很多次我也跟你们建议很多次国家基金绝对要站在比较协助要不是获利的角度辅导的角度而不是你要确保获利你对一般的IPO公司的投资那当然是有一定的获利的意识但是你对新创企业投资你不要单纯站在获利的角度你要在辅导协助的角度包括你投资比例你要增加一点点 |
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599.929 |
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623.027 |
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比方說更有誘因1.5比1你填足投資機構跟國際基金1.5比1那個高副主委之前我還給你提到過你們必須不要聽過然後就就就冤孝允善的我們必須去確定落實是不是可以可行然後對這個餅夠大但是你們比較小區去做分配 |
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624.792 |
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645.311 |
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门槛也比较高年轻人需要就是第一统计需要政府的协助那你给他设计那么多的门槛当然你要达到初期创业你要达到这个门槛是很困难的所以把门槛稍微降低合理的降低然后呢给更多新创企业更多的协助而不是从获利的角度然后区域均衡 |
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646.792 |
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657.721 |
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台南高雄跟台中新創你們投資實在是比例是過低所以你必須要去做一些調整以上建議謝謝委員的意見我們會待會去研究謝謝 |