| IVOD_ID |
164361 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164361 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T09:24:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T09:34:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b5833b7b22c89b5fa2e2f7db73b8fc9c783c966d97180d5d219bde232eb5524465ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:24:25 - 09:34:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
1.蔣被提名人榮先-立法院第11屆第4會期交通、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。
【10月20日（星期一）依序分別審查蔣被提名人榮先、程被提名人明修；10月22日（星期三）依序分別審查黃被提名人葳威、羅被提名人慧雯。】
【10月20日及22日二天一次會】） |
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好 主席謝謝 麻煩請蔣備提名人蔣備提名人蔣備提名人好 |
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慷慨激揚的演說不過我們還是回歸到NCC被提名為主委的一個部分我還原一下因為本席一直很關心行政院什麼時候要提出名單但是我們在去年就詢問 |
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當時院長也說要送出結果到最後沒有今年4月也詢問院長也說要送出到最後沒有直到7月31號滿了一年才送出我想先請教主委什麼時候跟院長有碰到面然後跟院長有詳談邀請您擔任主委這樣的一個角色 |
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所以行政院院長有找你談過兩次 |
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是的第一次在什麼時間點差不多第一次是也就是接近了六七月的時候六七月那第二次呢差不多那個時候一個是六月一個是七月是不是是 |
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不是被提名人這個問題應該很好回答吧這也不是陷阱題你就是院長有找你談過而且也詳細談了嘛對不對那差不多六七月的時候因為如果說連這問題都沒有辦法告訴國人的話那我們很難問下去那今天回答的都是誠實的回答嘛對不對好OK所以一個六月一個七月那有沒有印象差不多談了多久在院長的辦公室嗎還是 |
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是在院長辦公室那談的時間呢我可能沒有辦法記得那麼詳細的但是呢兩次的時間第一次談的時間比較長大約有20分鐘的時間20分鐘所以院長一來就已經跟你講是說他希望提名你並且擔任主委的角色不是院長只是提名我希望能夠擔任被提名人而已謝謝是那之後 |
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什麼時候認為是說你合適因為四位委員嘛都學有專精每一位委員我們也都看過了那到最後是提名你並且擔任主委的角色主要是什麼樣的一個最後的一個決定是您回答的讓他覺得說你很有風骨很有專業還是院長覺得是說跟你比較投緣非常謝謝委員提問其實我並不知道我只是最後被告知可能會去需要擔任備評議員然後兼主任委員 |
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所以這兩次談完也都沒有跟你講是說你到最後會當主委被提名主委是的好來 |
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被提名的人因為之前前NCC不管是委員或主委其實違反行政中立慶祝難輸那其實高居民調最不滿意如果說真的有做最不滿意的民調我想NCC也一直讓國人沒有辦法相信那因此既然你已經被提名為被提名主委了那你覺得如何洗白網路上有看到NCC |
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張詩詩這樣的一個汙名本詩詩很不喜歡對於我們任何的機關有這樣的汙名為什麼因為這每一個機關其實都是代表中華民國但是 |
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面子是自己丟的NCC為什麼會讓大家覺得說張嘻嘻其實最主要原因還是因為過去很多的一個例子都是讓大家覺得說沒有行政中立所以主委可不可以簡單說明一下如果真的有機會你被提名了 擔任主委了那怎麼樣恢復民眾對於NCC的獨立性 |
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好 謝謝委員的問題那我剛剛有說過其實對NCCD我個人的期待它一定是一個專業然後能夠體察民意的一個獨立機關如果說到要真的要做到如何獨立的話我必須承認我本身在執政黨有朋友在在野黨也有朋友所以我期待在我上任那一天起我會堅持與執政黨跟在野黨保持等距 |
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也就是所謂的保持政治上的等距我相信唯有這樣子的我才能夠獨立行使職權那當然我必須跟這朋友們說抱歉了謝謝 |
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所以未來你上任 如果說正有機會上任之後你不會跟這些朋友聯繫那如果說朋友主動找你呢因為過去很多的NCC委員甚至有NCC委員屆滿在卸任前發表公開信痛批正沒集體化他直言NCC嚴重的腐化跟腐敗變更條明NCC變成首長制委員不具決策權你怎麼看 |
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我相信這是他個人的言論謝謝那剛才我還必須必須回答其實所謂的政治上的等句並不不不不懂於友誼上的等句什麼意思也就是說我會希望能夠在跟執政黨與在野黨 |
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保持到政治上的等距但是並不意味著友誼上面所以友誼朋友還是可以交但是如果說講到公事的時候就行政中立我看你怎麼行政中立最主要是過去我們也看到NCC上一屆的NCC的委員 |
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因為所謂的這個官司一直持續的連敗我不知道你有沒有注意到NCC其實已經連敗了好幾件官司甚至濫罰的這個裁量到最後也都被撤銷這是行政法院這邊判決出來那NCC委員從2018年NCC每年編列的法律諮詢費用150萬一年到2023年已經高達1310萬 |
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十倍之多那如果說假設你有機會上任的話你會針對這一些一一敗訴的部分還要提起上訴還是你認為過去的一些政治紛擾的部分應該要喊停了請說明好 謝謝委員的提問 |
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台灣是一個民主法治國家所以一切是以現在的最後的法律的裁決來做最後的決定謝謝那至於NCC內部呢所以你的意思言下之意是說不管你上任之後前面多少爛攤子即便是你不認同他的一個裁量的行為但是該編的法律諮詢費用編的打官司的費用你會編好編滿是這意思嗎不是這個意思謝謝那不然什麼意思 |
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應該就是說依法行政依法行政啊對啊那我現在在問你請教您的是說現在已經連續敗訴26敗NCC不承認然後持續編1310萬的法律諮詢費用請律師來跟民間企業打官司啊那你要怎麼樣打未來你是要持續打官司還是你認為是說應該要大破大立過去不合理的部分應該要喊停了不要再繼續上訴 |
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那我想我現在是被提名人我會等到有機會上任的時候你沒有想過這個議題你不認為說這一題是我們會詢問的國人所關心的大家所重視的請回答應該現階段呢我還沒有辦法去直接回答謝謝沒有辦法回答來我最後再請教你剛講了一個誠實很重要 |
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招委已經站起來了所以我想請教誠實很重要請再回答一次什麼時候院長找你談過請你提名NCC的委員你剛講6月7月我最後再給你一個機會什麼時候院長找你談過提名NCC的委員 |
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什麼時候好我可以等一下查我的行事歷然後仔細的詳細的回答謝謝所以剛6月7月是隨便講講不是6月是我的憑記憶謝謝那很簡單嘛你現在講一個如果說你連兩三個月前院長找你那麼重要的事情你都回答不出來我們怎麼有辦法相信你有辦法獨立行使公正客觀的權利跟責任 |
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擔任一個NCC獨立機關主委的角色連院長什麼時候找你談都想不起來 |
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謝謝也請不是 趙偉趙偉不覺得這些問題很重要嗎因為我不清楚說為什麼會提名被提名人居然剛剛在國會答詢的時候可以那麼草率的回答本席的問題所以他必須要回去好那什麼時候什麼時候你沒有一個印象院長找你兩次是的什麼時間點6月7月是不是是的是6月7月是 |
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569.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
590.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
一次是5月5號5月5號好5月5號請去看一下公開的質詢在4月底的時候就有本院的委員質詢行政院院長說什麼時候要提名NCC的委員結果行政院院長在4月底講說就已經名單確認了等待送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
591.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
602.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
如果你是5月5號才第一次跟卓榮泰院長見面並且你講說你們有見面兩次在第二次的時候你才被確定要提名的話那到底是行政院長說謊還是你說謊誠實是國人對NCC委員最基本的期待很顯然 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
619.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
621.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
諸位你無話可說 啞口無言 |