| IVOD_ID |
164307 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164307 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-16T11:57:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-16T12:03:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6022c9f6d63255a307884d1c6f809dd7a3b07049f443442a0a48d75bfa96c3ef19e861c81d6c028e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:57:48 - 12:03:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、內政部警政署署長、內政部消防署署長就「警察、消防、海巡、移民及空中勤務總隊人員危勞津貼及退休權益之保障」進行專題報告並備質詢，另請行政院人事行政總處、行政院主計總處、銓敘部派員列席備詢。） |
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請劉世芳 劉部長還有全席部退伏師的高義燕 高副市長我們請劉部長跟高副市長委員長好 |
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今天有看劉部長肯定過好幾次這個全序部我今天要先肯定全序部今天提出來的報告有照顧到我們的警消人員而且依法行政在禮拜一的時候啊我在質詢考試院的秘書長劉建新 劉秘書長他清楚的說在審定的部分 |
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我們承諾系統開發出來這個在年底之前是可以完成的大家在年底會收到審定函很高興今天全序部的報告裡面明確的表示全序部會在今年的12月底完成審定不會影響到 |
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目前任何包括行政院提說要申請事件或者暫時處分這個非常重要就是在今年年底我們所有的警消人員可以拿到審定你新的依照新法你可以領到多少退休金這個是今天非常重要一個進程我要謝謝前戲部有好好照顧我們的警消人員而且是依法行政的 |
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可是我要提醒一個點請看下一張我去調了內政部跟權系部最近密集開了五次的會結果我們的移民人員移民署跟空中警察隊空中勤務總隊的人員是被排除在外面的 |
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我提醒第一個立法院刪除通過的這個條文這個是有列在裡面而且我要請大家看一下當初為什麼納入的一個很重要的立法理由是因為警消海巡人員還有移民署跟空中勤務總隊的人員他們任務非常的繁重長期處於高壓跟危險的工作環境我今天是提醒請不要雙重否定他們記得把他們列進去 |
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好 另外請時間暫停怎麼樣 那個署長進來沒有關係 部長來我講完會讓部長講OK 那個署長OK好 那從今天內政部的這個報告跟詮釋部大家有看到一個依法行政的詮釋部可是呢對照之下內政部 |
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還是沒有編耶內政部說什麼本部要配合行政院申請釋憲結果才來辦理我要提醒部長部長當然從早上已經跟很多這個立法委員都對答過這個題目了我要提醒這段時間法界很多人已經出來講了 |
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不是申請事件就可以凍結法例所謂的依法行政 憲政機關一定是要依法行政的所以我提醒部長 拜託你我知道你剛剛已經跟這個很多委員有對答這個你可能也很為難 這應該是卓榮泰的決定吧因為我看你們五次的這個討論內政部跟全系部都很努力要去達成這個審定書嘛我知道你是為難的 可是我要提醒 請注意 |
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依法行政是一個最基本的一個要求特別是依法這次這個立法院三讀通過的這個議算是一個法定議算不要一直講什麼政治問題啦什麼憲政問題憲政機關本來就是一定要守法你要談政治也可以可是政治一定要先守法要不然就亂掉了來 補典我問你一個很簡單的問題如果依照走動態這個標準啦依照走動態這個標準你兵役是你管的嘛 |
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人民如果被徵兵 他去申請釋憲 照總統帶這個標準我就去申請釋憲啊怎麼樣 他就可以馬上不用當兵了嗎是不是這樣子 否定那叫總統帶的標準 照他的法律的這個專業這樣你就徵不到兵了 |
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但是目前為止沒有這樣的案啊申請釋憲又暫時處分目前沒有人像鍾文泰這樣違法我們無法回答如果的問題啊如果問題對啊啊這同樣的標準嘛就是我剛剛跟委員報告我們無法回答如果的問題就是沒有人像鍾文泰這麼違法就是假設嘛你的假設前提沒有發生在任何公文書上我們無法回答你行政院長應該是帶頭守法結果你現在自己違法亂七啊人民如果跟著鍾文泰走用鍾文泰這個違法這個標準 |
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台灣真的就天下大亂了好今天很好今天都沒有任何的那個太大的一個爭執點啦我現在只是很明確的要拜託部長今天相關的這個首長都在今天全系部做了一個很好的示範點我們也往前跨了一步了年底大家會知道自己的審定是新的這個多少錢我也呼籲內政部相關的這個首長趕快依法編列事實上去年因為原住民的禁法禁法補償 |
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行政部門沒有依法來編列後來協商完以後還不是有編嘛我們請盡快跟上次一樣最近韓院長會召開協調我們也希望行政院要從上次學到教訓而且學到一個成功的經驗趕快把我們警消人員的該有的退休我們這個退休金所得替代的提高八成依照新法趕快把它編訂趕快發放 謝謝謝謝張啟康 |