| IVOD_ID |
164295 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164295 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-16T10:18:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-16T10:29:31+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6022c9f6d63255a33a357a08754f21dd1c5687840456a864d77ab6ef5aede8983dda3dec39bdc3285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:18:05 - 10:29:31 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、衛生福利部次長及台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長史哲列席就「高鐵公司推動寧靜車廂所引發正反意見,政策上路近一個月的成效及後續宣導因應」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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主席大家好我們請那個施董事長董事長請委員長那個董事長好 |
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我想臨近車廂這件事現在社會都在關注那其實我們還是肯定高鐵處理這個臨近車廂這個問題當時我跟邱志偉委員還有多位委員提出這個臨近車廂的訴求我們是針對大人跟使用3C產品當時的確是有很多人在車上講電話 |
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很大聲或是有很多人在車上交談很大聲我就想說其實這個是公共空間怎麼講話這麼大聲自己都不會約束一下所以當時我們的用意其實都是出自善意是當然那我也相信我們施董事長高鐵這個臨近車廂的訴求事實上也是善意所以我是覺得該肯定還是要肯定是 謝謝那當然就是說有一些讓家長 |
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突然覺得說好像小孩子有時候在裡面的聲音無法控制這個我們也體諒所以施董事長也提到就是說我們有一些包容對小朋友有一些無法控制的講實在話小朋友有時候不是家長說他叫他不要講話他就不要講話的那這個部分其實我們也多一點體諒跟包容我們一開始就已經說明清楚說是不包括 |
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這個小朋友對 所以我們其實這一個寧靜學校的 |
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用意也是希望說就如我們一開始的本意一樣就是說大家互相可以呼籲一下就是您的車廂是必要的但是體諒小朋友包容小朋友也希望說大家可以在這個人際面可以互相學習跟包容這個會持續推動下去對這個理念其實我們是可以接受的那當然也希望說家長們不要這麼大的壓力也希望說大家可以體諒家長有時候小朋友的聲音大家可以稍微體諒一下 |
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那當然有一些小朋友在看3C產品的那就不行啦是因為你如果我們我剛講我們針對交談有一些小朋友他在車上看3C產品是開開聲音的那個當然就我們也我們一樣希望是用耳機啦對所以就是說讓家長也了解一下就是說大家對小朋友的體諒我們是有的這個希望說高鐵可以繼續宣導謝謝委員那另外就是 |
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台鐵這個親子車廂還有底下那個是瑞士的鐵路的親子車廂這個那個董事長應該知道吧是我知道那高鐵有沒有可能 |
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設停止車廂希望委員會讓我稍微簡單說明我想停止車廂這個在國外這個的經驗最主要是針對長程長程事實上對孩子來講他的這個不安的成分就會更高這是第一個台灣高鐵目前350公里我們平均搭乘的時間是約一個小時 |
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平均搭乘的公里數大概是160幾公里所以大概是一個小時所以他相對來講時間是短的這是第一 第二 第三台灣高鐵源自於日本新幹線那我們的車廂跟車體的打造一體成型所以你也看得到就是說日本新幹線是沒有親子車廂的所以我們推動寧靜車廂我們是希望跟親子友善並存在現實的運量的狀況底下我們 |
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沒有條件來打造這個如同台鐵的勤職車廂這件要跟大家說個說明我想我們有沒有一個折衷的方式 |
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就是說今天假設我還是你像台鐵台鐵他現在每週日兩班現在都現在每天平均有20到25班次真的很多那當然我也知道高鐵的困難高鐵不能再加掛車廂那車廂裡面也沒有辦法變動那這個困難的情況之下如果有考慮到比如說像我們有一些高鐵會有彩繪啊 |
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車廂外對 那個其實看起來就滿舒服的嘛這個也是一個創意嘛那如果說我列一個車廂在車廂裡面我可以彩繪一下或者是變化一下位置不變但是這一個 |
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就是讓家長覺得說我今天小朋友待在這裡如果我有帶小朋友我優先選擇在這裡那當然就是說這個車廂也許會比較吵啦那就是說小朋友大家盡量集中在這個車廂裡面會比較吵但是就是說我們用一些才會用一些孩子喜歡的來吸引孩子去 |
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跟委員報告我想我們會來繼續研發也接受社會各界的提案是不是能夠有更多的方式跟工具 |
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問題 所以這個部分容我們這個可能更謹慎的來研議 好不好您思考一下啦 因為是覺得這個至少家長在那邊會比較沒有壓力啦那當然就是說有其他的團體考量就是說你會不會有歧視 那當然我們絕對不是歧視啦而是讓小朋友有一個比較 |
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他到這邊就是說我們當然盡量約束啦或者盡量讓小朋友學會替他人著想這個是我們必要的教育觀嘛但是有時候沒有辦法的時候至少家長在那裡壓力會比較小那有沒有這個可能我們希望高鐵再研究一下那這個我想很多人重視希望能夠盡快有答案好謝謝謝謝謝謝我們請那個運安會來運安會主委 |
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主委好 主委其實我對運安會我記得我提過很多的問題運安會的主委也都跟我說會研究會考慮但是最後好像沒有什麼多大的差別我不知道是主委是忘了還是對我們的質詢沒有那麼在意 |
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你可以看到像我們針對這個公共運輸像本席在114年5月29日提出的這個三峽車禍的事情那主委也答應說要縮短調查時間提供換照建議那現在你們給我們的回覆是這樣調查報告會提前半年預計明年5月出爐那我看你們原來的規劃 |
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440.08 |
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463.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
原來的規劃報告時程初步報告事實資料報告最終報告最終調查報告預計在2026年5月發布那你哪有提前你就照你原來的計畫你說要縮短沒有縮短然後我們去問我再跟主委報告 |
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464.383 |
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473.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
我們去問說去問你們說你上一次說會把資訊提供給委員參考結果現在問你們裡面你們裡面給我們答覆是說這個請詢問交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
477.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
500.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
你是指高齡教師這個部門嗎後來我們有跟交通部我們知道最新的資訊是這樣子交通部他在今年的10月1號有發布新的規定說115年的5月會開始實施70歲以上的民眾要換照然後要通過體育檢查等等這個我其實也知道 |
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502.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
528.355 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
我的意思是說其實你在諮詢台上所答應的事情所要考量的事情你們應該就是說你取得講出來就說要做 你就是做嘛你其實你把資訊提供給我們委員會給我們委員有什麼困難嗎你即使是交通部已經有這樣子預定 擬定 雖然還沒有實施那我們問你們 你們就一句話說你們詢問交通部 |
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532.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
557.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
這個不是一個負責任的態度那再來就是說我在最後一點就之前其實我有跟主委講過類似河安會事實上現在在華山在恆春辦很多這個宣導的活動辦得有聲有色我記得我也跟主委講過主委也說要考慮來辦結果到現在講很久了都沒有結果 |
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560.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
571.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
還是說主委在這邊回答了以後回去就忘了還是我們的幕僚就主委的回答應該有後續追蹤讓委員知道一下我想這是一個基本的態度 |
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572.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
591.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
是不是主委這個部分可以要求一下我們的相關的單位你底下的人以及你自己對於委員在質詢上所質詢的是不是應該要有個回答的機制讓我們能夠清楚就是說你在這邊質詢的結果如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
593.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
618.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
我們去年有呼應委員的這個要求在高雄有辦一個醫師安全資訊教育研討會有關鐵道部分去年有辦那另外我們科普我們也今年準備要辦那個鐵道事故調查論壇都有那另外那個藝術協會他會有辦研討會的時候我們也會在那個場合上做相關先導這個做的可能還不夠多啦但是我會加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
620.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
626.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
運輸協會這個是你們是搭上線的不是你們主動的是我們主動跟他講說留一個時段給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
629.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
653.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
就是说这个办理我想你们将来可能调整一下如果有别人办的活动你们有去努力多了一个什么项目当然这个也是你们的努力这个是不是要跟大家委员都讲一下有时候我们去那边不知道你们在里面这是别人办的场不知道是你去努力之后多了这个项目 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
654.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
680.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
像這個你們有整理的東西我希望說能夠給委員的資料你們內部要做一下資料的整理讓大家可以清楚那我剛提到的就是說這個報告的時程啦以及這個我們台上的回覆啦需要提供給委員的資訊也希望說你們這個可以整理一下該給委員的資訊就是主動給委員這個不是很困難的事嘛對不對這個希望說可以改進啦好 謝謝 謝謝委員長好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
683.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
686.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
好 再請運安會針對剛剛委員所提出來事項 |