| IVOD_ID |
164264 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164264 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-16T10:42:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-16T10:55:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:07 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6022c9f6d63255a3e84cf7c5571f2c889ba2ba11b833fe0ade83ed45c59a17eb29602ffc9a9b6cbf5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:42:26 - 10:55:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理(含各轉投資事業機構公股代表之董、監事)列席業務報告，並備質詢。
【10月13日、15日及16日三天一次會】） |
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委員好部長早部長這個就財化法的修法那個主院長在10月14號提出說依循垂直事權能夠劃分水平財源能夠均衡兩個方向將由副院長鄭麗君和地方討論並表示今年會提出一個版本來所以請問部長財政部是不是在這個會期結束前一定會提出財化法的修法版本 |
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跟委員報告那天院長在總資訊室有提到在今年底前會有院版那我們下個禮拜二會再邀請地方政府再來開會因為我們之前已經開過三次那現在還會在記者共識上繼續往前推進所以一定會在今年這個會期會提出來嗎 |
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今年底前9月13號院長邀請了22縣市的首長來也都聽取了他們的意見今年底的話可能就是會趕上這個會期我們一直不斷的都在討論謝謝委員指教部長 因為8月30號行政院表示說就是有345億這個345億的統籌分配稅款無法完成分配 |
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所以原因講說是因為無法逾越現有母法內的公式所以我要請問部長那在這一次的修法版本你們要提出的行政院的版本是否也會將這一個部分提出完整的一個做法會把它提出來 |
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跟委員報告這345億沒有辦法分出去委員知道應該16條之一那個分母的部分有問題嘛所以我們這個部分因為依法行政這個部分就沒有辦法分出去345億那這個部分我知道大院的委員也有要做提案去修正這個分母的部分 |
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那行政院未來我們要提出的版本會是一個完整的版本並不會只是針對這個問題一定會就這個部分會提出一個版本出來我們會在整體的分配的部分會做不是就這個公式這個也不會是我們未來的公式其實部長我提出一個建議其實說這個345億的解決方法只要進行二次分配就可以了 |
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也就是說把這345億元依照現行的這個修法的公式進行二次的分配計算就可以把這些345億就可以再次算出各縣市的分配的數字請問部長為什麼不做就是說二次的分配把這些剩餘款依照原有的我們修法的公式去做並不可行啊 |
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跟委員報告我們在算的時候一定依照一個法律而且現在這一次的財化法把原來有授權財政部訂定分配辦法的那個法條依據都把它刪掉了換言之財政部只能依照這個法條來做並沒有自行決定說我再怎麼樣的調整分配這表示說不願意讓財政部去做這方面的事我肯定你說按照法條來做 |
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即使這樣做二次分配或者是三次的分配這樣也是依照原來母法的公式去計算所以這並沒有逾越母法的問題我是建議你就是說在未來做這個如果財政部要提出修法的版本我這個建議你是不是可以納入參考的依據 |
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政府所提的版本會跟這個公司不會不盡相同不會相同的因為我們會就整體面的去做考量其實廣義啦我給你一個建議似乎並沒有那麼難所以你們可以去多方面做一個考量不要這個自私一分了解另外這個部長 |
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財政部在本週二公布了今年一到九月的稅收累計時增兩兆八千七百一十億佔累計分配預算數的百分之九十三佔前年預算數的百分之七十五點五但是比去年同期卻少了三百六十五億年減百分之二點五實現一個衰退的一個現象 |
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但是我們看到台股在今年九月的表現逆勢成長 頻頻創新高九月正交稅的收入就高達312億年增52.6%創下歷年來台股在九月最亮麗的表現同時也是單月第三高更是16年來的最大增幅保持連二紅的一個狀態讓我們衰退的情況趨緩 |
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所以部長 9月份的股市表現這麼亮眼那證交稅 印花稅 盈利事業 房地合一稅以及整體的這個稅收多個項目也都創下單月的新高但是我們比去年的同期總稅收卻減少了365億那請問這個具體的原因是什麼為什麼會這個總稅收會減少 |
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跟委員報告您剛才有365億是中央的部分跟去年同期相比差365億那剛剛您提到印花稅或者娛樂稅或房屋稅都增加那是屬於地方稅不在我們這個統計裡面另外房地合一所得稅是要進到長照基金跟住宅基金也沒有在這個稅收的統計裡面 |
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另外您刚刚也提到的股市的证交税9月确实日均量达到6006亿所以9月份这单一月份的证交税比去年的同期的9月份的证交税是增加107亿但是我们累计1到9月的股市的日均量是4451亿比去年同期的4943亿是少的所以1到9月份的证交税呢 |
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事实上比去年同期是减少了223亿跟委员报告这是最主要的部分正交税是减少的股市表现那么亮那是单一八月份非常好整个平均下来是一到九月下来是差500亿平均数差500亿那未来我们看10月到12月如果股市能够更往上走那也许可以把这个缺口补上 |
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另外一个减少的原因是营锁税的部分营锁税的部分是减少比去年同期减少481亿这个部分有部分原因是因为站脚税款还没有入账要到10月会入账还有一个就是因为对等关税因为受冲击的产业他们申请延期跟分期就会递延入账另外货物税也减少了比去年同期减少123亿 |
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那最主要是小客車的部分貨物稅減少的比較多那因為前面的稅制大家有些觀望的態度所以我們按照目前的這樣的一個稅收的表現是所以是否代表今年我們可能會短徵 |
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今年要达成因为今年的预算数跟委员报告114年我们税客收入的预算数比去年113年10增数10增数就增加了947亿增加947亿但是我们到9月底为止的10增数却比去年减少所以这个部分要达成114年的预算数很具有挑战性我们再看后面的税收情况再来跟委员报告 |
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是 部長最後一個問題請問就是我們在114年9月1日起新清安貸款的撥款案件將不計入銀行法72條之2的限額主要就是為了紓解銀行房貸量能的一個緊竅 |
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財政部在9月5號有對外公布統計到114年的8月22號所有公股銀行的受理清清安貸款以何代上代撥款的額度的件數共計12,923件金額高達1,257億餘元 |
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原預估撥貸的時間大概要0.5個月至4個月所以請問部長各公股銀行在新清安貸款放貸鬆綁後目前最新的上貸撥款還有多少件貸撥款金額還有多少 |
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9月1號以後把那個銀行法那個規定天花板拿清清安不受那個限制以後那到今年為止還有要分別降到了5200件跟566億那大概時間要也就是說分別減少了60%跟55%啦件數減少60%那等待的時間也縮短了大概在兩個月以內可以做合撥是 |
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所以各大公股銀行的這個帶波件數以及帶波金額都已經明顯的減少了明顯減少那也協助一些沒有自有房屋是不是請各大公股銀行可以把現在到目前為止我們帶波的件數以及帶波的這個金額可以匯後以素面提供給我們本委員會沒有問題 謝謝委員是 我們就提供是 謝謝好 部長 |
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部長請回 請101董事長我們請賈董事長剩下幾秒而已來 董事長 |
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簡單就叫你啦我想我也好是你就任期已經也超過一年了那麼記得你在剛上任的時候呢可能因為明星的官黃社會各界對你有所期待許多媒體也聚焦在你身上而當初董事長你全家獨你當101董事長撐不到半年但是現在已經撐了一年多了我們看到整個觀景台語商場的人潮確實也看到一些成長 |
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630.701 |
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所以請問董事長這一年多來你應該也從申書到現在完全上手那這一年你為101增加了多少的營收 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
632.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
641.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
這一年增加多少營收嗎?我應該說我們是正向的成長成長幾%你知道嗎?10%以內那實際的數字是大概多少? |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
653.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
672.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
10%大概多少錢因為實際的數字我們今年的這個還沒有真正的到了這個結尾的部分對所以說可能要等年底的時候那我們的財報跟我們的這個整個數字都會公告所以到時候委員您可以知道的是那個董事長我想我給你一個取喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
673.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
690.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
我們希望你在第二年進入第二年之後你會交出一張非常亮麗的成績單你自己覺得說未來你還有哪些項目可以做改善或者再更提升你的一個經營的效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
691.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
697.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
首先非常感謝委員你好像給我一個可以宣傳的機會我覺得我的目標基本上我個人在101如果很幸運的話可以完成我的任期三年的話我想我的個人的KPI就是我會增加101的營收另外一方面我也希望101再增加我們回饋社會我們在公益捐款的部分而且是實際捐款的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
720.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
731.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
這個部分我相信我要把這兩個數字都是正向拉高的部分另外就是如果要講到一個比較再創新一點的活動的話大家可以期待我們明年會跟Netflix有一個全球的直播 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
740.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
754.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
Netflix的全球直播呢基本上就是讓我們台灣讓我們台北101呢可以展現在全球觀眾的面前那我想這是一個非常大的案子也請大家期待那當然還有我們的跨年煙火 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
755.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
774.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
是是是現在董事長我想就是希望你能夠讓101的經營整個這個營收體質能夠更加的完善進步好我努力加油謝謝我繼續打臉我的家人好謝謝謝謝林思明 趙偉欸 趙偉拜託 |