| IVOD_ID |
164249 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164249 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-16T09:58:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-16T10:05:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6022c9f6d63255a3efa451e03a758ba8bc4230b8fec4a4bdde83ed45c59a17eb9b03abd11ba7a7725ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:58:01 - 10:05:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請公平交易委員會代理主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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我們請主委委員長 |
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抱歉好另外就是也針對這個近期檢討修正公平教育委員會對於公平教育法第21條案件案件之處理原則還有公平教育委員會辦理公平教育法第21條案件程序作業要點這個修正事實上事實上這個 |
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在去年審查預算的時候113年度的預算的時候這個立法院有這個決議所以你們的辦理情形也提到是112年修正是112年修正也就是說我剛才講的這個你的報告裡面提的就是112年的按照你的這個辦理情形裡面就是112年好 |
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我们现在就是要检讨刚讲112年的修正我们看近5年诈欺案件数及财损逐年增加去年这个是2025年的一个资料去年就是指113年2024年 |
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去年三大詐騙手法假投資43015件總共金額372.2億元假網路拍賣30100件金額26.2億元解除分期付款9134件金額10.3億元所以這個 |
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所以我在去年就一再質詢網路詐騙特別多尤其是就你的業務來講就是假投資假網路拍賣這些都是都跟公平教育法都有關係所以看起來你這個112年修正的這個原則兩個原則顯然是 |
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沒有辦法達到效果所以這樣的一個情形之下這種網路詐騙的一個普遍對台灣的人民假網拍真詐騙像這樣的一個情形這麼嚴重 |
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所以公平教育法第25条事业意不得违其他主义影响教育自息之期望或显示公平之行为所以本习一再的是说希望能够修原则看起来无效修法除了修法之外是不是还有其他因应的作为这个是一定要去解决修法有时候 |
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土法不足以自行,这也是基本的所以这个部分到底应该要怎么去因应真的是要好好的去公平教育委员会一定要认真的去检讨到底是怎么样 |
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跟委員報告打詐這件事情目前是國家的重中之重那我們在行政院我們也有跨部會的分工所以像剛剛委員提到幾個詐騙性的不實廣告如果他基本上就是如果純粹是要詐欺的話那是一個犯罪的行為所以我們不會在不實廣告底下去處理他原則上是由法務部依照刑事案件來處理 |
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那當然有些個網路上的廣告的確是有不實的陳述那這部分我們都有處理在網路上的交易如果不實廣告我們也處分過很多的案子那剛剛委員談到第25條欺網或顯示公平那個條文其實我們內部有一個處理原則 |
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那在處理原則裡面我們有針對各種違法的類型我們有強列出來不過那個25條的適用是有一定的要件就是說它比較屬於一種補充法規的性質就是說其他像公平法其他條文已經有規定了或是其他特別法規定主委我都了解行政院所謂的打詐無法現在很多的責任不管來個部會 |
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针对打诈无法全部把这个责任弄在这个刑事刑事的话就是警察然后警察所以这个部分是一个我们必须要去深刻去检讨的部分能不能再防范于未然所以防范于未然而不是他已经发生了然后警察要去处理那来不及了 |
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所以這個部分是我們要去作為一個行政院各部會各部會就你的業務來講就公平交易委員會的業務來講 |
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怎麼樣去做防範於未然而不是說已經發生了到了警察手上已經是發生了基本上是這樣各位報告我們其實跟調查局警察局我們都有做一些宣導的活動積極的在提醒現在就是說怎麼樣讓民眾真正能夠感受到而且能夠知道而且能夠不再被騙 |
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这个就是我们要你努力的地方了不然的话刚刚讲的那些数据如果已经到刑事案件很多机关都是这样我问数位发展部问其他的都是刑事案件那个已经发生了那这个刚才讲的这个数据永远不会减少因为已经发生了对不对这个数据就无法减少所以我们要怎么样让这个数据 |
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所以這個部分我們要共同的去面對這個問題是 那個跟委員再報告一下就是對於事先防範這一塊只要網路上的廣告是屬於不實廣告基本上我們有一個網路的監控小組事實上我們都經常會在看有沒有一些不實的一個廣告出現那是目前我們在做的一個比較屬於預防性的會 預防性很重要是 好不好謝謝謝謝鄭天才委員 |